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Tom Delay?

Discussion in 'News' started by KING BLING, May 14, 2005.


    KING BLING Guest

    SO I have been reading about how fucked up this man is for years now. Recently it seems the mass media is catching wind...this article was a real winner and touched on an issue I had not heard of...


    The real scandal of Tom DeLay

    WASHINGTON, D.C. (Creators Syndicate) -- Forget the freebie trips across the Atlantic and the Pacific. Forget the casinos and the allegedly illicit contributions -- they represent only degrees of avarice.

    To grasp the moral bankruptcy of the public Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, you only have to know about Frank Murkowski and Saipan.

    Today, Frank Murkowki is the governor of Alaska, but from 1980 to 2002, he was a conservative Republican senator from Alaska.

    How conservative? His voting record earned him zero ratings from organized labor's AFL-CIO and the liberal Americans for Democratic Action, and perfect 100s from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the American Conservative Union.

    But as chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, Frank Murkowski became furious at the abusive sweatshop conditions endured by workers, overwhelmingly immigrants, in the U.S. territory of the Northern Mariana Islands, of which Saipan is the capital.

    Because they were produced in a territory of the United States, garments traveled tariff-free and quota-free to the profitable U.S. market and were entitled to display the coveted "Made in the USA" label.

    Among the manufacturers that had profited from the un-free labor market on the island were Tommy Hilfiger USA, Gap, Calvin Klein and Liz Claiborne.

    Moved by the sworn testimony of U.S. officials and human-rights advocates that the 91 percent of the workforce who were immigrants -- from China, the Philippines, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh -- were being paid barely half the U.S. minimum hourly wage and were forced to live behind barbed wire in squalid shacks minus plumbing, work 12 hours a day, often seven days a week, without any of the legal protections U.S. workers are guaranteed, Murkowski wrote a bill to extend the protection of U.S. labor and minimum-wage laws to the workers in the U.S. territory of the Northern Marianas.

    So compelling was the case for change the Alaska Republican marshaled that in early 2000, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed the Murkowski worker reform bill.

    But one man primarily stopped the U.S. House from even considering that worker-reform bill: then-House Republican Whip Tom DeLay.

    According to law firm records recently made public, lobbyist Jack Abramoff, paid millions to stop reform and keep the status quo, met personally at least two dozen times with DeLay on the subject in one two-year period. The DeLay staff was often in daily contact with Abramoff.

    DeLay traveled with his family and staff over New Year's of 1997 on an Abramoff scholarship endowed by his client, the government of the territory, to the Marianas, where golf and snorkeling were enjoyed.

    DeLay fully approved of the working and living conditions. The Texan's salute to the owners and Abramoff's government clients was recorded by ABC-TV News: "You are a shining light for what is happening to the Republican Party, and you represent everything that is good about what we are trying to do in America and leading the world in the free-market system"

    Later, DeLay would tell The Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin that the low-wage, anti-union conditions of the Marianas constituted "a perfect petri dish of capitalism. It's like my Galapagos Island."

    Contrast that with what then-Sen. Murkowski told me in a 1998 interview: "The last time we heard a justification that economic advances would be jeopardized if workers were treated properly was shortly before Appomattox."

    The "Made in the USA" label means standards of quality and standards of conduct.

    But more important than how a product is made is how the people who make that product are treated -- as human beings with innate dignity -- who are free to organize and entitled to a living wage.

    Did somebody say something about moral values?
  2. fatalist

    fatalist Dirty Dozen Crew

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    Before DeLay went to Washington, he was known in Texas as Hot Tub Tom. His drunken sexual exploits were legendary.
    Also, his pest control business was sued several times, the IRS liened the business twice because he didnt pay his taxes.

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  5. fatalist

    fatalist Dirty Dozen Crew

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    Politicians, like diapers, have to be changed frequently, and for the very same reason.
  6. villain

    villain Veteran Member

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    :haha: whoo... that's a good one...
  7. casekonly

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  8. angelofdeath

    angelofdeath Elite Member

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    Liberal Media Unsheathes Long Knives To Attack Tom DeLay

    Gun Owners of America
    8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
    Springfield, VA 22151

    Tuesday, May 3, 2005

    If there's one thing the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the network news hate more than conservatives, it's an effective conservative.

    So it is hardly surprising that they've launched a personal attack on Tom DeLay which is virtually unprecedented in recent history.

    You may remember that, after the Columbine tragedy, DeLay worked with Gun Owners of America to set up a procedure which killed all anti-gun legislation -- even anti-gun measures which had overwhelming support. DeLay also worked with us to sidetrack, for many years, the anti-gun Incumbent Protection Act.

    At a time when even the Bush administration endorsed the reauthorization of the semi-automatic gun ban, DeLay was the one major voice in Washington who stood firm against maintaining the odious ban.

    The current attacks on DeLay's ethics involve complex factual issues which are sometimes difficult to understand. The liberals are counting on this.

    Part of the problem is a partisan Democratic prosecutor in Austin who is out to make a name for himself.

    But more so, the problem involves complex, unconstitutional incumbent-protection statutes which seek to silence pro-gun voices -- and accusations that DeLay's strict compliance with the technicalities of those laws fails to comport with the "spirit" of the liberal anti-gun legislation.

    Then, there are activities the liberal media concede are legal and legitimate -- but seek to demonize nevertheless.

    For instance, a legal DeLay trip financed by a conservative non-profit organization was challenged because the non-profit, in turn, received contributions from groups which could not fund the trip directly. Even the Washington Post concedes that DeLay had no knowledge of the group's funding, had no obligation to find out, and therefore acted legally.

    Funny. Bill Clinton committed perjury -- and the liberal media rallied behind them. So the members of the Washington press corps are obviously no sticklers for ethics.

    The bottom line? This fight is about an effective, pro-gun congressman who is being persecuted because of his beliefs.

    ACTION: Write your congressman. If he is a Republican, urge him to stand behind Tom DeLay. If your representative is a Democrat, ask him to stop the partisan attacks on this great pro-gun leader.

    You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm where one of the two pre-written messages below will automatically load depending on who your Representative is.

    -- Sample Republican Communication --

    Dear Representative

    You and I both know that the media's frenzied attacks on Tom DeLay are not as a result of anything he has done –- but rather because he is a principled pro-gun advocate.

    The last thing we need is an ethics lecture from pundits who, a few years back, were apologists for Bill Clinton's perjury.

    Please stand behind Tom DeLay and support him in his battles against the liberal media.


    -- Sample Democratic Communication --

    Dear Representative

    You and I both know that the media's frenzied attacks on Tom DeLay are not as a result of anything he had done -- but rather because he is a principled pro-gun advocate.

    The last thing we need is an ethics lecture from pundits who, a few years back, were apologists for Bill Clinton's perjury.

    Please ask Nancy Pelosi to stop the partisan attacks against DeLay.

  9. villain

    villain Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2002 Messages: 5,190 Likes Received: 2
    Oh yeah cause he's pro-gun....
    Man, those republicans are good salespeople.... just look at that bait and switch.

  10. angelofdeath

    angelofdeath Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 15, 2002 Messages: 4,375 Likes Received: 79
    GOA is not a "republican" group. get your facts straight nukka

    KING BLING Guest

    I can't tell if that thing is a joke but the above is my favorite. They are like 'it's too complicated to explain what really happened...so we won't either, but beleive us, we know what's really going on...'
  12. PushbuttonWarfare

    PushbuttonWarfare Member

    Joined: Mar 30, 2005 Messages: 329 Likes Received: 1
    Yeah that evil brutal Liberal Media is just raking delay over the coals, and I just can't believe how they swept that whole clinton thing under the rug. I barely even heard about it!

    KING BLING Guest

    New ethics cloud over leading Republican DeLay

    By Mark Babineck / Reuters

    HOUSTON - Ethics questions swirling around U.S. House of Representatives Majority Leader Tom DeLay mounted on Thursday when a Texas judge ruled that a committee formed by the powerful Republican had violated state law by failing to disclose $600,000 in mostly corporate donations.

    State District Judge Joe Hart in Austin made the ruling in a lawsuit filed by five Democratic candidates defeated in 2002 by Republicans who received money from Texans for a Republican Majority, a political action committee founded by DeLay to help Republicans capture the Texas Legislature.

    Hart awarded the Democrats a total of $196,660 in damages.

    DeLay, the second-ranking Republican in the House, was not a defendant in the suit, which was filed against committee treasurer Bill Ceverha. But the ruling was the latest setback for DeLay, who has been under fire in recent months for ethics problems involving fund-raising, foreign travel and his relationships with lobbyists.

    The Democrats charged that the political committee did not report the corporate money and that it was used illegally, because Texas law forbids the use of corporate donations in political campaigns.

    Ceverha argued that the money went toward administrative costs, not campaigns.

    The committee's efforts helped Republicans take control of Texas Legislature for the first time since the Reconstruction era after the U.S. Civil War, and led to a controversial remapping of the state's congressional districts which ultimately increased the party's majority in the U.S. House.

    Hart, who heard testimony in the lawsuit in March but did not rule until now, said in his written decision the contributions should have been reported to the Texas Ethics Commission because "they were used in connection with a campaign for elective office."

    He did not rule specifically on whether the money was raised and spent illegally, saying that was "for another trial."

    The decision was a victory for clean politics, said Joe Crews, attorney for the Democrats.

    "We're very happy and believe this is the first step in upholding the integrity of the Texas electoral process," he said.

    "It sends a very clear message to corporations and lobbyists and other folks that this sort of secretive, underhanded activity is against the law and not allowed in Texas."

    Ceverha attorney Terry Scarborough said in a statement that Hart's decision was wrong and would be appealed.

    "Our client was exercising his constitutional rights of freedom of speech and freedom of association," he said.

    DeLay did not have an immediate response, but the National Democratic Committee in Washington, which has made him a top target in the 2006 election, did.

    "The long arm of the law finally caught up to the rule-breaking, power-abusing Tom DeLay," said DNC spokesman Josh Earnest. "Fortunately for the American people, Tom DeLay can no longer assert that the rules of law and justice don't apply to him.

    DeLay, who represents a Houston-area district, has argued in the past that Democrats were using unfounded partisan attacks to try to weaken him politically.

    DeLay has been under investigation by Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle in Austin for his part in the committee's activities.

    DeLay has not been charged, but three men with close ties to DeLay have been indicted for illegal fund-raising activities by the committee.

    Eight corporations also were indicted for making illegal contributions to the committee.

    KING BLING Guest


    Lawmaker heading DeLay inquiry has ties to lobbyist
    Wednesday, June 8, 2005 Posted: 4:07 PM EDT (2007 GMT)

    Doc Hastings, R-Washington

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The lawmaker who will head a House inquiry into trips that lobbyist Jack Abramoff arranged for Tom DeLay has his own links to the lobbyist.

    At one point, Abramoff touted Rep. Doc Hastings' relationship with his firm in a pitch to a prospective client.

    As chairman of the House ethics committee, Hastings, R-Washington, could play a big role in determining DeLay's future. DeLay, the House majority leader, has asked the panel to review his travels, which include trips arranged by Abramoff while the lobbyist worked for the Seattle, Washington-based Preston Gates firm.

    Abramoff cited close connections to Hastings in a 1995 letter to the Northern Mariana Islands government in which he urged the government to hire his firm. At the time, Hastings served on a House subcommittee that oversaw the Marianas and was considering Democratic proposals to impose minimum wage, immigration and other U.S. laws on the Pacific commonwealth, which opposed them.

    In Abramoff's sales pitch, he wrote that lobbying colleague and former Rep. Lloyd Meeds "has an excellent relationship" with Hastings and several other members of the House Subcommittee on Native American and Insular Affairs.

    The Marianas hired Abramoff's firm and paid it millions in the 1990s for lobbying efforts run by Abramoff, including work to counter allegations that Marianas clothing factory workers faced "sweatshop" conditions. At Abramoff's urging, the island government played host to many congressional aides and lawmakers, including DeLay, who visited during December 1997.

    Hastings' office and the Marianas team Abramoff headed had at least three-dozen contacts in 1996 and 1997, a crucial time for Abramoff as he tried to show his new client that Preston Gates' six-figure monthly billings were worth the money, according to firm invoices and correspondence provided by the island government to The Associated Press under an open records request.

    Hastings' chief of staff Ed Cassidy said the lawmaker's staff talked often with Preston Gates lobbyists because they came from a home-state firm and often represented clients from Hastings' district.

    "Neither Chairman Hastings, nor I, or any member of our staff, has ever met, spoken to or traveled with Abramoff, or taken any action at his request," Cassidy said.

    In a June 1996 report to the islands' government, Abramoff's lobbying team claimed a successful push to get Hastings to attend a hearing on oversight of the Marianas as one of its achievements for the month.

    The day before the hearing, a member of Abramoff's Marianas lobbying team talked to Hastings about his participation at the hearing, including possible questions, and suggested opening remarks for the lawmaker to make, the billing documents indicate.

    At the June 26, 1996, hearing, Hastings submitted a statement calling the Marianas an "economic success story." He urged Congress to continue a hands-off approach, in part by rejecting a minimum wage.

    "Those workers' jobs and livelihoods were being threatened by the Clinton administration and Representative Hastings served on the subcommittee that could help them, so of course he was willing to hear their side of the story and help publicize their plight," Cassidy said.

    The day after the hearing, Hastings received $500 from the Preston Gates political action committee. The money was given as part of a campaign fundraiser that Hastings had by coincidence held the evening of the hearing day, Cassidy said.

    The donation was included in at least $8,300 given to Hastings' campaign by employees of Abramoff's lobbying firms -- first Preston Gates and then Greenberg Traurig. Abramoff gave Hastings' campaign $1,000 between September 1996 and November 1997, donations Cassidy called "inconsequential."

    Hastings' appointment to head the House ethics committee came after the previous chairman took issue with some of DeLay's activities and GOP House leaders removed him from the panel. Last month, two Republican committee members who gave to DeLay's legal defense stepped aside from the DeLay investigation, acknowledging their donations could lead people to question their objectivity.

    LIVERWURST* Elite Member

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    As I'm sure you've all heard...


    DeLay won’t seek re-election

    Ex-House majority leader has ‘no fear’ about probe into his activities

    WASHINGTON - Succumbing to scandal, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said Tuesday he will resign from Congress in the face of a tough re-election race, closing out a career that blended unflinching conservatism with a bare-knuckled political style