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Tom DeLay indicted by county Grand Jury.

Discussion in 'News' started by KaBar2, Sep 28, 2005.

  1. KaBar2

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    Tom DeLay indicted by county Grand Jury.

    Discussion started by KaBar2 - Sep 28, 2005

    Well, they had to scratch through a ton of paperwork, but the Democrats finally figured out a way to unseat Tom DeLay from the leadership of the Republican majority in the House of Representatives, at least temporarily. His crime? That he "conspired" with members of the Texans for a Republican Majority Political Action Committee to make $190,000 worth of campaign contributions to Texas candidates after the 60-day cut-off before an election. Oh goodness gracious! The Republic is in peril! Like the Democrats never made campaign contributions that smelled a little ripe.

    LAME ASS WHINERS. The Democrats rammed their liberal shit down our throats for FORTY YEARS, but whine like little babies when the Republicans are in the catbird seat. We should check the list of Travis County grand jurors to make sure none of them reside in a Travis County cemetary, that's the usual Democratic trick down here with "registered voters." (Dead Texans seem to always vote Democratic.)

    Oh, well. National politics is hardball. DeLay is a big boy. "Let the games begin."
     
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    !@#$% - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    hahahahaaa suck it man, now you turn into the whiner?

    i had to deal with YEARS of WHITEWATER AND LEWINSKY investigations
    after ollie north gets away with Iran Contra?
    FORTY years?
    i guess you forgot about Bush 1, Bush 2, and Reagan?

    you are a joke!! trying to say they are whining hahahaaa!!





    House Majority leader Tom DeLay is not a physically imposing man. "Five-foot-seven if he's wearing high heels," in the words of Fort Bend County sheriff Milton Wright, whom DeLay once spent $70,000 to defeat in an election because the sheriff had hired a woman whose husband had sued DeLay. Yet in the decade since Republicans took control of the U.S. House of Representatives, the former exterminator from suburban Houston has achieved the political stature of the historical giants in Statuary Hall outside his Capitol office. He did it on his own, consolidating his political power and using it with a remarkable sense of purpose.

    DeLay's rapid ascent has been the result of more than hard work and a keen understanding of politics. He became majority whip and then majority leader by raising massive sums of money -- a total of $12.6 million between 2000 and 2002 alone -- and by strategically spending it on Republican candidates, in effect buying the loyalty of his colleagues. He has domesticated K Street, demanding loyalty and contributions from lobbyists in return for favorable treatment. And all along the way, he has strained, reinterpreted, and sometimes simply side-stepped ethics regulations in Washington and even in his home state of Texas, which has some of the nation's loosest campaign finance laws.

    Now, three separate sets of state and federal investigators are looking into whether DeLay and his associates may have finally crossed the line.

    Two civil suits filed in Austin allege that DeLay's Texas political action committee raised hundreds of thousands of dollars through illegal means. A parallel criminal investigation by Austin's district attorney, Ronnie Earle, has already led to the indictment of DeLay's top Texas fundraisers -- and Earle is not ruling out the possibility that DeLay himself could be a target of the investigation. And the Senate Indian Affairs Committee has subpoenaed records on two DeLay associates who used their access to "the Leader" to secure $45 million in lobbying and consulting fees from four Indian tribes. A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., is also investigating those fees.

    By itself, none of the inquiries is an immediate threat to DeLay's power as majority leader. But together, they threaten to expose -- and perhaps even unravel -- the machine he has been building since first getting elected to Congress in 1984.

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    "I am the federal government!" DeLay told a restaurant manager last year, according to the Washington Post, when he was asked to put out his cigar to comply with federal law. It's easy to see why he might think so.

    http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/11/10_403.html


    ..so kabar, looks like it isn't only one partisan democrat.

    i'd tell you to read and respond, but i know you only pay attention to arguments you think you can win.
     
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    !@#$% - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    All in all, argues Earle, the evidence suggests "an illegal movement to basically steal an election by using illegal secret corporate donations to political campaigns."

    Earle is referring to a watershed moment in Texas politics -- the 2002 election in which the state House of Representatives, after a carefully targeted campaign devised by DeLay and his associates, swung to the GOP. The new majority immediately proceeded to draw a new congressional district map designed to give DeLay half a dozen more Republican seats in Congress................


    Some of the issues Earle is investigating were first made public by the watchdog group Texans for Public Justice, which noticed an interesting discrepancy between the group's federal and state filings: Roughly $600,000 of the $1.4 million TRMPAC spent in its campaign to change the majority in the Texas House had been reported to the IRS, but not to the state's ethics commission. As it happened, the federal records showed that about $600,000 of the group's money had come from corporate contributions, clearly identified as such by the PAC's fundraisers. Texas law allows PACs to use corporate money for administrative purposes -- that is, expenses that would be incurred by any business, such as office space, phone bills, and routine mailings. But phone banks to promote candidates and similar campaign expenses don't qualify.
     
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    seeking - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    meanwhile dead floridians vote republican. weird.

    capone, after murdering (or ordering the murders of) hunds of people, was finally convicted of tax evasion. should they have not bothered, because they couldn't get him on first degree murder?

    sorry kabar, but this is fucking comical. delay is a piece of shit, flat out. and before you get on some high horse, you should remember that your republicans invented the petty witch hunt and changed politics forever during the cclinton years. my only complaint is that the democrats are still being too noble. they need more smear campains, like the one republicans used against their own presidential nominee (mccain).
    reap what you sew, homie.
     
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    KaBar2 - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    Well, presumably the Travis County District Attorney knows how this game is played. Want to wager on whether or not he will be facing a rather well-financed Republican opponent in the next election for District Attorney? Foolish guy, to indict DeLay on something so petty. Unless, of course, DeLay's Republican colleagues are ready to see him go down the road. No question about it, Tom DeLay is a rather arrogant politician. He's also an extremely powerful one, with very powerful friends, both in the state and national political arena, as well as the business world. I hope our stalwart D.A. has an umbrella, because it is "fixin' to rain."
     
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    !@#$% - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    he redrew the fucking districts dude
    why would i bet on a game that is clearly FIXED?


    millions of dollars in illegal campaign funds is petty huh?

    i'd hate to hear your opinions on rewarding businesses owned by politicians with multimillion dollar no-bid contracts, tax breaks, and lax environmental laws.



    if you want something 'petty' to whine about,

    Top Senate Republican facing scrutiny of stock divestiture
    He sold his shares in family's business, then price dropped
    Jeffrey H. Birnbaum, R. Jeffrey Smith, Washington Post

    Saturday, September 24, 2005

    Washington -- Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is facing questions from the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission about his sale of stock in his family's hospital company one month before its price fell sharply.



    you need to get a perspective on the big picture


    i almost forgot:

    :crying: mfor all those poor, persecuted republicans.
    when will they catch a break?
     
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    AAAAHHHHaaaahhhaaahhaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Leave it to kabar to bitch about a filthy corrupt republican finally getting what he had coming.

    Fuck Tom Delay that filthy douchebag!


    :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
     
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    John Birch - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    complaining about dead deomocrats voting? they redistricted Texas just so they could dis-enfranchise black voters, who for some strange reason, have voted democrat since the 1960s...
     
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    isor357 - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    They should lock that guy up just on principal and televise the feed. Put him in a federal prison in general population & let the sodomites have at. I would certainly enjoy watching some wealthy texas republican get his ass kicked all over the yard
     
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    Wait, money laundering, conspiracy, and violating campaign laws is "petty"? Should he have had to run into the house or reps blasting people to get busted for a real crime?

    Frist is pulling a Martha Stewart, Bush was made president with major help from Enron, Cheyney and Haliburton rebuilding Iraq together, Bolton has ties to the Plame case as does Rove of course, Rush is a drug addict, Rupert Murdoch is with like a 20 year old, O'Reilley is harrasing employees and paying them hush money...

    I love the moral high ground taken by your republican gangster party -the corporate welfare, the defrauded stock holders, the secret meetings of CEOs to form public policy, the good old boy approach to law and contracts, the intoxication of power, the blasphamy of using God as a reason to enslave the population...

    Hopefully DeLay will exercise his 2nd ammendment rights and shoot himself...
     
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    ^ :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: ^
    Yeah... what King Bling said.
     
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    They'll all be indicted one day
     
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    dumy - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    thank you symbols, seeking, king bling, john birch and sf1..you have put a smile on my face today..and made me feel a lot better about the future..
     
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    imported_grim540 - Replied Sep 28, 2005

    and before somebody brings up some left wing conspiracy to bring down the Republican party, i.e... Frist, Rove, Delay, Rush, O'Rielly, and about half of anyone who has anything to do with the Bush administration. Frist in particular, who got the GOP behind him to get Trent Lott out of the top position in the Senate.

    Sounds like somebody wanted somebodys job.....

    politics as usual
     
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