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The VICTORY act

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Æ°, Aug 22, 2003.

  1. Æ°

    Æ° Senior Member

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  2. NOUM

    NOUM Elite Member

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    I wont change anything..if anything its going to make "crime" grow more..
     
  3. caL

    caL Senior Member

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    fucka ashcroft
     
  4. Æ°

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  5. $360

    $360 Elite Member

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    fo fo fo fo real nukka
     
  6. Don't Panic

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  7. unconscience

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  8. Æ°

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    Victory Act To Target Drug Dealers as Terrorist

    Drug users and drug dealers may soon be treated like terrorists if the proposed Victory Act is passed by Congress.

    The Victory Act stands for the Vital Interdiction of Criminal Terrorist greatly expands the Justice Department’s power. Law enforcement agents could soon be able to seize personal records without court orders, to secretly search the homes of drug users and dealers. In addition the legislation would classify some drug offenses as terrorism and it would lower the standards for the government to tap home phones and computers.

    A Democratic House aide who has seen the legislation told ABC News:

    "This bill would treat drug possession as a 'terrorist offense' and drug dealers as 'narco-terrorist kingpins. To say that terrorist groups use a small percentage of the drug trafficking in the United States to finance terrorism may be a fair point, but this bill would allow the government to prosecute most drug cases as terrorism cases."

    The aide concluded "It really seems to be more about a political agenda to jail drug users than a serious attempt to stop terrorists."

    The Justice Department has denied it played any part in drafting the legislation.

    * From www.democracynow.org
     
  9. Don't Panic

    Don't Panic Member

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    Hippie who grows weed specifically for personal use = terrorist
    Canadians (as a result of whatever decriminalization laws) = terrorists
    high school kid who buys a qp for 4:20 = terrorist
    Entire population of Amsterdam = terrorists

    SUV owners = patriots
     
  10. Æ°

    Æ° Senior Member

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    If you were to get caught growing weed two times it's a minimum of 50 years in prison, even if it's just a couple plants for personal use. That's a little extreme if you ask me.

    I was just reading the part about felony drug charges.

    And the sections of the act where they are talking about affiliation with terrorist groups, they are only referring to non-domestic groups. So it's alright to be in the KKK. This "War on terrorism" sure has taken a seize fire when it comes to the Klan or some of these militant groups in America that have been declared terrorist organizations.
     
  11. Don't Panic

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    I think it is a lot extreme. How do they justify that? If a grower is local, that means that all the production and circulation of money remains inside the US, and never touches a single "terrorist" bank account. From what I gather (I haven't made it through the entire bill linked in Æ°'s first post), this is basically going to make anyone who uses or handles drugs in this country a terrorist by definition.

    Bump for all you apathetic fucktards.
     
  12. WREK

    WREK Guest

    great. now lets build more prisons, and raise my tuition some more.






    arm,leg,leg,arm,head.
    pz.
     
  13. Æ°

    Æ° Senior Member

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    hump.

    Marijuana: Anything over an ounce is a felony, right? (USA)
     
  14. Æ°

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    And another thing...

    Do you think that it's coincidence that they are making an attempt to pass some shit like this right around the anniversary of the September 11th attacks? I bet they are going to use that as a tool from now on, to get support for their more obvious violations of human rights. Maybe people will get the feeling they would be "unpatriotic" if they don't support a bill to make life harder for "terrorists" right around Sep. 11th. And maybe the powers at be know that.
     
  15. rip

    rip Elite Member

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    ok are you guys not like understanding that weed is illegal? and growing for personal use or otherwise is a felony? the laws not gonna change just leave it alone.
     
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