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the untruths and ignorance behind specism.

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Agt. Adopus, Aug 28, 2002.

  1. Agt. Adopus

    Agt. Adopus Junior Member

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    To uphold a specist view is not much different then upholding a sexist or classist view. Sexists for example believe that men are greater then then women because of there strength, ability to partake in sports, etc . Classists believe a group of people should be in control and be honored, respected and treated greater because there class and economic status.
    Anyone in there right minds would think that is wrong, but I ask, were do either prejudices differ from specism.

    The idea behind specism is valuing human life over non human animal life, because of brain development. Specists claim that the human brain is more advanced and can reason greater, and because of that they believe a human can suffer greater then a non human animal can. Human beings have stronger emotional capablities then non human animals, but how can we use emotional capabilities and reasoning to judge suffering and physical pain. Specists use such arguments to justify animal exploitation. But if specists use reasoning and emotional capabilities to justify animal exploitation, based on the animals intellectual and emotional capablitites then they must not have a problem with say chemical testing on a severly retarded man or a infant, the retarded man and infant cannot reason and do not have the emotional capabilities as an "average" man or woman, but does that justify treating them unequal or different? I think not.
  2. Matthew13

    Matthew13 Member

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    How come activists talk more than they activate?

  3. Agt. Adopus

    Agt. Adopus Junior Member

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    I'm equally as active, I just am in the mood to start a conversation.
  4. Canadiano

    Canadiano Guest

    nice post.

    i used to make the retarded kid in Grade 1 step in dogshit all the time, and we made a retarded British kid in grade seven pull his cock out in the guidance office...shit was funny. Still, he was alright. I'm the only kid in the school who took the time out to walk home with him and get to know him a few times.
  5. Agt. Adopus

    Agt. Adopus Junior Member

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    off topic but interesting to say the least
  6. kissmyass#1

    kissmyass#1 Senior Member

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  7. Agt. Adopus

    Agt. Adopus Junior Member

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    ... Amy thoughts on specism
  8. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

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    "How come activists talk more than they activate? "

    god bless ya mathew....
  9. Kr430n5_666

    Kr430n5_666 Banned

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  10. beardo

    beardo Guest

    "what about dogs? dogs are filthy animals."

    "i dont eat dog either"
  11. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    here's a classic one...

    Some people will quote the 'good book' and say
    "The Lord gave man dominion over the animals."

    But Dominion means
    i) Control or power over another or others.
    ii) The exercise of such control or power.

    hence... responsible use and preservation.
    Not "kill 'em all and let god sort them out."
  12. Agt. Adopus

    Agt. Adopus Junior Member

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    Thats true Zesto... Thats a Good point.
  13. serpent of the light

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  14. KaBar

    KaBar Senior Member

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    I think this is absolutely true, human being are just way too genus exclusive, and they have contributed to the virtual extermination of NUMEROUS other species. And not just large animals like whales or Siberian tigers either. Look at the BRUTAL GENOCIDAL EXTERMINATION of many of nature's smallest creatures. They are just fulfilling their niche in Gaia's great plan, and whatever harm they do is surely ofset by unknown benefits. Like variola. Sure, it causes smallpox in human beings, but if we just quit eating meat, and had a wholesome, holistic, sustainable diet, our natural immunity to this little baby would be optimized, and when some arrogant, know-it-all scientist screws up and lets this sonofabitch out of a government biological weapons laboratory by accident, we can expect it to re-establish it's rightful place in the microbiological pantheon by croaking about 200 million unfortunate persons who do not have the proper credentials and foresight to get vaccinated. Got your shots? Best fuckin' get 'em. Can't get vaccinated for variola, a major biological warfare agent? GEE, WHY NOT?
  15. socrates

    socrates Guest

    Damn I'm way too high to read this