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The Supreme Court is Dead

Discussion in 'News' started by KING BLING, Jul 8, 2005.


    KING BLING Guest

    When the Bush vs. Gore election happened and Bush won in the initial media reports that night, Newsweek among other media sources reported that O.Connor had an emotional outburst. This was something that struck me at the time I read it and has implications regarding that twisted election. But, in this case I wonder 1) The justices, always with a sesne of legacy, why did she choose to retire now? Who does she want her replacement to be? 2) Why is she immune from her clearly partisan slip up which potentially cost the country its democraitc integrity? ...this is something you don't read ANYWHERE yet easily well heres a summary from a web site:

    Personal Interests

    Gore had miscalculated O'Connor's interests and her character. Beyond a partisan desire for Bush's election, O'Connor had strong personal reasons to block Gore's apparent victory. According to close friends, she wants to become the first female U.S. chief justice, an ambition that she hopes President Bush will fulfill.

    As I reported on Dec. 11, O'Connor was visibly upset -- indeed furious -- when on Election Night, Nov. 7, the networks predicted that Gore would take Florida.

    "This is terrible," she said, as the announcement came from the television in the basement den of former Ambassador Walter Stoessel's widow's Washington home.

    When O'Connor angrily left to get her dinner from the buffet table upstairs, O'Connor's husband John explained that she was upset because the couple wanted to retire to Arizona, but that his wife would never vacate her seat if Gore won. She would remain on the court to deny Gore the opportunity of replacing her.

    "I thought John was spinning us a bit to protect her since she had been so indiscreet," said a source who was there. The O'Connors' friends say they believe the O'Connors want to remain in Washington even after retirement.

    She did good on the bench, but doing whats right on abortion and other issues does not a saint make...
  2. villain

    villain Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2002 Messages: 5,190 Likes Received: 2
    O'Conner is retiring? I thought it was Renquist who was retiring? As disappointed as I am with '00 election supreme court decision, O'Conner is however the swing vote. If she is retired and Bush puts one of his activist, fundamentalist judges on the dynamics of the Supreme Court will change drastically since most votes come out 5-4. If Renquist retires, there will not be much of a change....

    *Edit, you are right... O'Conner IS retiring, before Reinquist even...
    The future of the Supreme Court is not looking good. And it's looking like 'torture memo, assistant texicutioner' Gonzales is in the running for appointee...
    holy shit.

    KING BLING Guest

    I was drunk when I wrote the above so disregard what I said about her timing...though, the story is true. Yeah she is done for, of those being discussed as replacements is our very own

  4. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 8,264 Likes Received: 5
    1984 is coming to life.
  5. KaBar2

    KaBar2 Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 27, 2003 Messages: 2,130 Likes Received: 66
    And to think, I was having a bad day. Looks like it might not rain after all.

    "Today, President Abraham Lincoln Bush appointed the FIRST HISPANIC Supreme Court judge ever! Woo Hoo! What a wonderful fighter for the rights of the Oppressed. And next month, he has a tough decision to make: does he appoint Father Flanagan, who would be the first ordained Roman Catholic priest Supreme Court judge ever; or does he appoint Grand Kleagle Jim Bob Cunningham, only the second Ku Klux Klansman to ever serve on the Supreme Court? It's a toughie! Stay tuned!

    You gotta love Washington. Never a dull minute.

    KING BLING Guest

    Its kind of like "make or break" time for the democrtas...they get to take a hard core stand now or I'm going to start voting based on my wallet
  7. KaBar2

    KaBar2 Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 27, 2003 Messages: 2,130 Likes Received: 66
    It amazes me that as the Republicans bend over backwards to be "inclusive," all they get on 12 oz. is disrespected. The Democrats, who essentially purged the conservative wing of their own party and are now mired in their own lack of foresight, are still getting props from many liberals and minority people. WHY IS THAT? Shit, the obvious thing to do when the conservative Republicans win the White House is send in the conservative Democrat pals of the new President. ("What? They're all Republicans now, because we PURGED them all? What genius thought THAT up?") When the liberal Democrats win the White House, the obvious thing to do is send in the liberalish Republican golf buddies of the new President. But, if both parties kick out all the varying shades of red and blue, respectively, what you get is polarization. Which is why nobody in Washington D.C. can get shit done now. I kind of miss the old days, when drunken Senators cavorted in public fountains with gold-digging strippers on the payroll as "executive assistants." I read a quote from some older Senator bemoaning the loss of the Congressional "collegiate atmosphere." That means they argued in Congress 9-5, then both went for a massage, a blow-job, and a few Scotches after work. Life is so uncivilized now.
  8. Slim Pickens

    Slim Pickens New Jack

    Joined: Jul 8, 2005 Messages: 60 Likes Received: 0
    I think its crazy how republicans are steadily takeing over the entire government in this country. They already have majority in the House of reps and Senate and now the Supreme Court? Thats all three branches of the United States government. Where are the checks and balances if all party memeber bond together for a common intrest. Granted conservatives can be all over the spectrum on certain intrests but still i think this is somewhat alarming. I agree
    Its really not to far away. I was reading about microphones being placed in "in high crime areas" in chicago. Sound reminicent of 1984? I know thats alittle of subject but as far as the supreme court goes get ready for theyre contribution to what seems to me to becoming an all to Republican of the supposed Republican Democracy.
  9. KaBar2

    KaBar2 Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 27, 2003 Messages: 2,130 Likes Received: 66
    Slim---How is it that you think Republicans are "steadily taking over" the government? They're not "taking over," they're being ELECTED by the people of the United States, most of whom are light-years more conservative than the average teenaged 12 oz.'er The Democrats held both houses of Congress and the White House, on and off, for more than FORTY YEARS. I don't recall any Democrat moaning about "Oh, woe is me, there's no checks and balances anymore." They rammed Democrat legislation down everybody's throat until there was a so-called "Republican revolution" (hah! some revolution) that regained control of Congress.

    Which is exactly how we wound up with all these laws that most conservative and all ultra-conservatives regard with such animosity. For me, the straw that broke the camel's back was the assault weapons ban. (That fucking Clinton.) That year, as broke as I was, I joined the NRA's Life Member program, and I paid my $36 a quarter until I paid off the $500. Then I joined as a Life Member of the Texas Rifle Association. Then Gun Owners of America. Then I joined Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO--you need not be Jewish to be a member.) After that I started sending money to every conservative political organization that I could find. If you research Bush's political campaign funds, you'll discover that the Republican "war chest" is bursting at the seams, and the reason is that the Democrats finally went too far and pissed off a large portion of the electorate. And if the Dems want to recover, they are going to need to become less radical and unhinged, and more like the rest of us. Or, alternatively, they can continue to lose elections, which is okay too.
    Everybody keeping crying about "polarization," well, the Dems started it by marginalizing and expelling the Dixiecrats. What did they think would happen if they turned their backs on Southern whites, that the South would just go off in a corner and cry? There are NO conservative Democrats anymore. So you can lay the Republican sweeps directly at the door of the radical-socialist-left-wing Democratic activists, who high-jacked the Democratic Party and put the Republicans in a position to appoint TWO YOUNG SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.

    Most of my relatives voted the straight Democratic ticket ever since the Civil War. My grandfather would have been appalled to know his grandson is a Republican. The Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves. If they don't like the results, then perhaps they should change. Or not.
  10. oh so modern

    oh so modern Member

    Joined: Oct 10, 2004 Messages: 427 Likes Received: 0
    admitting your parents have voted dem since the civil war implies that the civil war changed their views, which i would the assume (yeah i know assumptions) means that your relatives were anti civil war or at least anti results of said war which i suppose isnt that hard to believe if you are of a southern heritage. but being that i am not it is hard for me to get my head around that.

    i also have no doubt that the general image of the parties has changed since then.
    a modern republican claiming any lineage to a republican abe lincoln is hard for me to accept.
    but again perhaps i am simply not thinking hard enough.

    no disrespect kabar.
    me for supreme court justice.
    tell the prez to gimme a call.

    ps-- party politics destroyed democracy. ask james madison.
  11. GnomeToys

    GnomeToys Elite Member

    Joined: Jun 24, 2003 Messages: 2,616 Likes Received: 4
    But KaBaR2, I'm afraid of getting shot with a black dangerous looking rifle with a 30 round clip, in .223 caliber. I'd feel much more comfortable getting shot by a nice, polished wooden gun like my grandpa used to have, in .30-06 caliber!
  12. KaBar2

    KaBar2 Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 27, 2003 Messages: 2,130 Likes Received: 66
    The Democratic Party was the Party of the South, and it supported the Southern Cause, i.e. state's rights, etc. It had both liberal, conservative and very conservative wings well into the post-WWII period. I've heard it said that the Dixiecrats began to lose their place in 1948, when Truman was elected. (I first wrote "re-elected," but Truman became president when FDR died in office.) I'm not a political scientist, but this seems substantially correct.

    Most of my family were conservative Democrats (Dixiecrats.) My father's generation was the first to begin to vote Republican, and he did so to vote for Barry Goldwater, who was very conservative by the standards of the day, but pretty much a liberal Republican by today's standards. It was the middle of the Cold War. Even the liberals were extremely patriotic, and ready to fight the Communists at the drop of a hat. Jack Kennedy was a WWII war hero, and he was an anti-communist, but he wasn't as fanatical an anti-communist as the men that had him assassinated.

    When control of the Democratic Party was attained by the Left, in the early '70s, the younger conservative Democrats and the expelled older Dixiecrats had nowhere to go but the Republicans. The Democrats essentially sent the new wave of Republican radicals from their own party to the Republicans, who welcomed them with open arms. Until this occurred, the Republicans were the smaller, "minority" party in Congress. Today, the Republicans have a slight edge, but if they go too far, they will begin to lose the liberal wing, and guess to whom they will lose them? The Democrats, of course.

    Lost part of this post, dammit.
  13. SF1

    SF1 Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 25, 2003 Messages: 4,866 Likes Received: 5
    Yo Kabar you fucking idiot the republicans were NOT elected, they literally took over. It's called a coupe. You dickheads can lie all you want about how a minority of redneck retards out voted the rest of the country but anybody with half a brain (espescially if they left their house on election day) knows it's just that. A Fucking lie.

    Why don't you stop insulting peoples inteligence with your bullshit Republican propoganda.
  14. SF1

    SF1 Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 25, 2003 Messages: 4,866 Likes Received: 5
    It was almost funny how the republicans were cumming in their pants trying to impeach Clinton for getting a fucking blowjob from a horny slut.

    Where is the movement to impeach Bush and fam for stealing the presidency, destroying our country, and taking us to war for a LIE???
    Does he have to get laid to get impeached??? :rolleyes:
  15. villain

    villain Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2002 Messages: 5,190 Likes Received: 2
    Kabar, you might be proud of your Dixiecrat heritage and you and your families shift to the Republicans, in the '60s I'm guessing, but I sure as hell wouldn't be. The Dixiecrats weren't forced out... They left on their own.

    *emphasis added by ME.

    I just don't understand it. Clinton has always been considered a moderate democrat. BUSH is the one polarizing this country. This country is being torn apart. Hell, even p-ditty is fucking political now. That's got to tell you something. I don't even think the motherfuckers were elected and I've seen plenty of evidence to support that. All of this bullshit. Countless mountains of bullshit. Bush has commited all of these crimes, IN THE OPEN even for some of them... Yet Clinton gets canned for a blowjob? Bush is arguably the worst president IN HISTORY, he is at least in the TOP THREE.
    Clinton did plenty of things I didn't like... hell, all his welfare reform (a very conservative measure) nearly killed my family, but this motherfucker Bush is a danger to the entire UNIVERSE!
    For real, this dude must think he is fulfilling gods prophesy by being the antichrist or something.