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The Enviroment/Pollution thread

Discussion in 'News' started by ledzep, Dec 14, 2004.

  1. ledzep

    ledzep 12oz Junior Member

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    The Enviroment/Pollution thread

    Discussion started by ledzep - Dec 14, 2004

    fuck it seems that I can't read the news now a days without seeing at least 1 article about how fucked up the enviroment is getting..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4086809.stm

    Why does it seem that nothing is getting done? Fucking Bush turning down the kyoto pact, trying to get everyone in an SUV.

    The Bush administration is currently using the same logic when it comes to the enviroment as the newly industrialized nations in 1800s.

    The enviroment is worse now than ever before, and more importantly is getting worse at a faster rate than at any point before.

    We have the technology why the fuck dont we use it? Yea sure its cheaper to stick to fossil fuels and shit, but this shit is LIFE OR DEATH!

    I am seriously worried that I'm going to have to raise my kids on a planet where we have to walk around in micro-enviroment suits or some shit.

    post your thoughts.
     
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  2. spectr

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    spectr - Replied Dec 14, 2004

    dude dont worry we will all die long before the world gets to bad for the other species, shit what you dont think the planet can fight back, ebola, aids, cancer, etc etc. dont worry within the next 50-100 years most of the human race will die.
     
  3. BROWNer

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    BROWNer - Replied Dec 14, 2004

    ^tell that shit to the dodo bird!

    there's some irony in this..from a science perspective..
    but that's kinda getting into another thing..
     
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    Ckit - Replied Dec 14, 2004

    money, and the greed that comes with it, is destroying our planet.
    fuck the trees when you can make a dollar out of them.
    RIP dodo, one of the coolest birds wiped out by the human race.
     
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    ledzep - Replied Dec 14, 2004

    ^seriously, it's the cool ones that go first.

    RIP Dodo.

    [​IMG]
    next? :shook:
     
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    villain - Replied Dec 14, 2004

    OMFG THE DODO IS EXTINCT!?!!?!

    RIP!

    Unfortunately humans have a fairly high survivability rate and are able to adapt to live in a diverse variety of climates. It doesn't mean I will enjoy sucking down smog and drinking poison. Eventually the only thing that will be left are cockroaches and politicians.
    Where is weapon x on this?
     
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    KING BLING - Replied Dec 15, 2004

    This is one of the most ridiculous article I've read. "Man goes crazy kills 5 babies - garbage men excited for less poopie trash!" I hate everything...


    http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/12/15...g.ap/index.html


    Earlier spring from global warming, say researchers

    ITHACA, New York (AP) -- As the first signs of winter push into the Northeast, researchers have some good news for fair weather fans -- spring is coming earlier than it used to.

    The lilacs say so.

    In one of the most comprehensive studies that plants in the Northeast are responding to the global warming trend, Cornell scientists and their colleagues at the University of Wisconsin found lilacs are blooming about four days earlier than they did in 1965.

    David Wolfe, a plant ecology professor at Cornell whose research will be published in a forthcoming issue of the International Journal of Biometeorology, said nature's calendar is changing due to an increase in greenhouse gases.

    "It's not just the weather data telling us there is a warming trend going on. We are now seeing the living world responding to the climate change as well," Wolfe said Tuesday.

    The Cornell study is consistent with other examinations involving the biological impact of rising temperatures, but those studies have been much more limited in geographic scope.

    Earlier this year, Harvard University scientists also reported finding evidence of earlier flowering in specimens at the Arnold Arboretum in Boston, while botanists at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C. found the city's Japanese cherry trees are blooming about a week earlier than they were 30 years ago.

    According to the Northeast Regional Climate Center at Cornell, the average annual temperature in the Northeast has increased by 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit since 1900, which is slightly higher than the global average of 1.1 degrees Fahrenheit.

    The greatest rate of warming, though, has occurred during the winter months (December to February) with an average increase of almost 3 degrees Fahrenheit over the past 100 years -- a rate that has accelerated over the past 30 years to 4.4 degrees Fahrenheit, Wolfe said.

    Cornell researchers analyzed data from 72 locations throughout the Northeast where genetically identical lilacs were planted during the 1960s and 1970s as part of a joint U.S. Department of Agriculture-funded project involving Cornell and the University of Vermont.

    The lilacs were planted to help farmers predict planting and harvest dates, but have now provided scientists with a historical record of bloom dates.

    The Cornell study also included apples and grapes at four sites in New York, which Wolfe said were blooming six to eight days earlier than in 1965.

    While some may revel over an earlier-arriving spring, Wolfe cautioned that the warming trend has many implications -- and not all good.

    It could, for example, favor some invasive species and alter important interactions between plants and pollinators, insect pests, diseases and weeds.

    "If the interdependence and synchrony between animals and plants are disrupted, the very survival of some species could be threatened," Wolfe said.

    Climate change also could affect plant and bird migration patterns, animals' hibernation patterns, reproductive cycles, woodland composition, plant pathogens and the availability of plant food for insects and animals.

    On the positive side, the warming trend is extending the growing season in the Northeast by several days -- although hotter summers can negatively affect some crops, such as apples and grapes.

    Most scientists anticipate the increase in greenhouse gases -- and subsequently, the warming trend -- will continue, so it's important researchers more broadly monitor the consequences for crops, animals and natural areas, Wolfe said.

    Heat-trapping greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide and methane are produced mainly by industry, automobiles and power plants. Climatologists say the gases absorb infrared radiation and trap heat in the atmosphere.
     
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    villain - Replied Dec 15, 2004

    we've been seeing biological evidence for a long time of environmental damage. one of the scariest i've heard is the dying off of coral reefs. it only takes an increase of 1 degree in the oceans for the coral reefs to die off. we have lost ALL of them in the indian ocean and many, many more are going fast.... this could collapse the entire oceanic ecosystem.
    and the monarch butterflies were almost wiped out a few years ago because of a cold snap in mexico.
    i've actually witnessed birds not migrating because of temperature changes.
    i dunno there is a ton of crap going on....
    check these people out, they are good peoples...

    http://www.ucsusa.org/
     
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    BROWNer - Replied Dec 15, 2004

    hey man, this is the goal of production..our culture...
    production is death. kill everything.
     
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    villain - Replied Dec 16, 2004

    consumption junction, what's your function....
     
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    Ckit - Replied Dec 16, 2004

    i remember watching the cartoon to that in like 2nd grade. i loved it. almost as much as i love american flags.
     
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    from adbusters:

    *edited because they posted the article
    so I dont need to continue misquoting it:
    • THE ENVIRONMENT
      A BILL OF RIGHTS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS

      We, the people of the future, like the twenty thousand generations who came before us, have the right to breathe air that smells sweet, to drink water that runs pure and free, to swim in waters that teem with life, and to grow our food in rich, living earth.

      We have the right to inherit a world unsullied by toxic chemicals, nuclear waste, or genetic pollution. We have the right to walk in untamed nature and to feel the awe that comes when we suddenly lock eyes with a wild beast.

      We beseech you, the people of today: do not leave your dirty messes for us to clean up; do not take technological risks, however small, that may backfire catastrophically in times to come. Just as we respectfully ask that you not burden us with your deferred debts and depleted pension plans, we also claim our right to a share of the planet’s ecological wealth. Please don’t use it all up.

      We, in turn, promise to do the same. We grant these same rights and privileges to the generations who will live after us; we do so in the sacred hope that the human spirit will live forever.

      A curse on any generation who ignores this plea.
     
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    I want to see an age of megacapitalism. where the earth is totally dominated by capitalist superstructures and the only remaining wild life is inside a glass dome.

    lets use every oil to the last drop. more guns, more bombs, more soldiers. police state USA is the only way. Protect us against everything. cars for everybody on earth. lets make a paved 6 lane highway from new york to moscow over the atlantic ocean.

    (this was entirely sarcastic incase you dont understand.)

    Has anyone read that the chances of the entire planet being wiped out in a major freak accident are 1 in 455 and based on that we should colonize another planet as soon as possible?
     
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    villain - Replied Dec 19, 2004

    haha.... the books "Chung Kuo" make some interesting scenes of megacapitalism but in a "what if the east took over the world instead of the west" kinda way. Interesting to say the least.

    But yeah mother nature is going to kick our ass any minute now.
     
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    ledzep - Replied Dec 20, 2004

    It's like really really big man said:

    "kids, don't mess with mother nature, because she'll kick our butts."
     
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