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Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by erosie, Feb 11, 2004.

  1. erosie

    erosie New Jack

    Joined: Mar 16, 2003 Messages: 20 Likes Received: 0
    ...just wondering from across the pond ...what's all this war-against-terror shit doing to graffiti-writers in the US, after 9/11 and turning the country into a police-state...making writers easy targets for searches and suspicion...is there a big difference?
  2. ODS-1

    ODS-1 Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 21, 2003 Messages: 3,575 Likes Received: 0
    It's affected everyone who isn't rich, white, and republican.
  3. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 7, 2001 Messages: 2,955 Likes Received: 1
  4. Gunm

    Gunm Banned

    Joined: Aug 31, 2003 Messages: 12,427 Likes Received: 2
    I dunno...for me it's buisness as usual. There's always been a war on our kind. Two fucked up buildings didn't change much in my opinion
  5. sneak

    sneak Guest

    i hear security is still tight in new york airports...
    i cant see any problems with me getting a pen in...is there?
  6. GrafKix

    GrafKix Senior Member

    Joined: Feb 23, 2003 Messages: 1,010 Likes Received: 0
    i havent felt a difference, infact i just smuggled A quater of some cannibus sativa with me while i took a plane to LA. They arent preventing shit.
  7. !@#$%

    [email protected]#$% Moderator Crew

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 18,517 Likes Received: 623
    yeah, it's had an impact.

    a friend of mine was busted just after 9/11
    he thought it was likely because of highly 'vigilant' citizens

    another friend of mine, geographically nowhere near the other dude, was basically threatened with terrorism charges during some shit he faced (over graffiti). the fbi wanted information, and came down hard.

    because of the attacks, you can no longer bring spray paint on a carry on.

    and you need a passport now to enter the u.s. from canada, which fucked me up.
  8. newmark

    newmark New Jack

    Joined: Aug 19, 2003 Messages: 63 Likes Received: 0
    yea...this sucks....I lost a couple to this.
  9. adept

    adept Junior Member

    Joined: Jul 27, 2003 Messages: 179 Likes Received: 0
    Well for one, it's wasted a bunch of money, made some things better, fucked some things over, overall not well thought-out. How's that for vague?
  10. ODS-1

    ODS-1 Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 21, 2003 Messages: 3,575 Likes Received: 0
    G.W's grandpa did all kinds of things for the nazis.
  11. gfreshsushi

    gfreshsushi Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 21, 2003 Messages: 2,244 Likes Received: 1
    ^^if by did things for them you mean profited from jewish prison camp labor, then yeah...

    terrorism is a boogieman. getting up is just as hard or easy as it was before, but more citizens look at you if you don't "fit the neighborhood". i got stopped by a rentacop the other night, walking down the street because he was concerned i was lost. i had to explain that i lived there, and he didn't believe me, so i walked away. i got followed by a police car for two blocks until i went into my building and waved goodnight to them, then they drove away.
  12. erosie

    erosie New Jack

    Joined: Mar 16, 2003 Messages: 20 Likes Received: 0
    ...sounds pretty fucked up. Spreading fear for political power-reasons is a pretty wellknown strategy throughout history...from the romans to Hitler...he used this tactic for his own reason too...using riot-groups to break things down and spread fear, and after that saying he was the man to fight this "terror"...sounds like history repeating over and over. Last time i was in NY i was surprised to see the complete madness in the airports...all people lined up taking off their shoes...why? As if someone is stupid enough to try this bombshoe trick twice...it has a complete other purpose ofcourse...showing who is in control and that EVERYTHING IS DONE to stop terrorism. It seems strange to see the protection of a "free" country happening by making the country anything BUT free, spreading fear and suspicion.:innocent:
  13. rinse

    rinse Member

    Joined: Dec 28, 2003 Messages: 703 Likes Received: 0
    i wouldnt say we live in a police state yet. not any more than we ever did anyways. why is that the way the media over there is portraying the situation over here?
    the changes arent really everyday apperent. not in my existance, then again i'm not a world player terrorist either.
  14. erosie

    erosie New Jack

    Joined: Mar 16, 2003 Messages: 20 Likes Received: 0
    ...it's not so much what the media over here says about your "police-state"-country...mostly much that is said about the US is not far away from what is actually happening over here as well...look at the situation in France for instance and how effectively graffiti-"terrorists" are fucked there...it's more that the policy of the US seems to be quite simple as it comes down to "terrorism", affecting all...so also people in the street i guess.
  15. Dr. EZ

    Dr. EZ New Jack

    Joined: Mar 2, 2004 Messages: 2 Likes Received: 0
    Since 9/11 mr Bush has been able to uses the threat of terrroism to get what ever he wants, from Unjustifeid wars to endless homeland security laws. Altough you may not notice the changes in your daily life, the government is slowly taking complete control of our lifes keeping us living in fear by using the mass media to drill our heads with violent images over and over and prevent us from seeing the whole truth . I feel we can use graffiti to provide our on message and try and get the truth out there.

    OSAMA BIN LADEN is Dead and was long before 9/11 so dont believe the hype.