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take a wild guess who's heading up the 9/11 probe

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by BROWNer, Nov 27, 2002.

  1. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    i can't fucking believe this shit..

    Bush Names Kissinger to Head 9/11 Probe

    Wednesday November 27, 2002 8:40 PM

    WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush on Friday appointed former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger to lead an investigation into why the government failed to foil the Sept. 11 attacks, telling the veteran diplomat to ``follow all the facts wherever they lead.''

    Signing a bill he once opposed, Bush told survivors and victims' family members, ``We must uncover every detail and learn every lesson'' from the terrorist strikes. The bill creates a 10-member independent panel for an 18-month inquiry into the attacks on Washington and New York that killed more than 3,000.

    Debate about the commission has been marked by differences between the White House, Democrats and victims' relatives over how far the probe should go and whether Bush himself should testify.

    Kissinger's appointment gives the commission instant respectability, and puts a White House ally in charge of an inquiry that has the potential to embarrass Bush.

    Kissinger, 79, echoed the president in pledging to ``go where the facts lead us.'' He said he would accept no restrictions.

    Later, Democratic congressional leaders named former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell to be vice chairman of the panel. After leaving the Senate in 1995, Mitchell led the negotiations that produced the landmark Good Friday peace pact of 1998 for Northern Ireland.

    The commission will build upon the work of congressional investigators who reported this year that clues to the hijackers' plot were ignored or misunderstood.

    Lawmakers have criticized the CIA for not tracking two al-Qaida operatives it learned of in early 2000. Those operatives were two of the five hijackers on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon.

    Congressional investigators also noted poor communication between the FBI and CIA on terrorism matters, and questioned the State Department on visa programs that allowed all 19 hijackers to enter the country unchallenged.

    ``This commission will help me and future presidents to understand the methods of America's enemies and the nature of the threats we face,'' Bush said at a ceremony across the hall from the Oval Office.

    The commission has a broad mandate to examine issues such as aviation security and border problems, along with intelligence.

    While the president said lessons could be learned from Sept. 11, he seemed to put a greater emphasis on the panel determining methods and motives of terrorists who might strike in the future.

    ``Our goal is to take every measure that is necessary to gather information that is available and gain every advantage that is possible,'' Bush said.

    Democrats and some family members laid out goals that assume a more critical look at the government's actions before Sept. 11.

    Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., said the inquiry must study why America's ``defenses failed.'' He added: ``Our goal is to know everything we possibly can know about the causes of Sept. 11.''

    Beverly Eckert, whose husband perished in the World Trade Center attacks, said the government failed to ``protect its citizens.''

    After attending the ceremony, she said Bush and Kissinger seem committed to the inquiry but she'll be ``watching closely to make sure they do it right.''

    It was Bush's third major bill-signing in as many days and served as a holiday send-off for the president. He left afterward to spend the long Thanksgiving weekend at his Crawford, Texas, ranch.

    Like the Homeland Security Department, the independent commission was an idea Bush came to support only after intense political pressure.

    Kissinger, a pillar of the foreign policy community, was secretary of state and national security adviser for Presidents Nixon and Ford. One of the best-known secretaries of state, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1973 for his efforts to end the Vietnam War - but he also has been strongly criticized by some for his wartime service.

    Lieberman, who pushed for the commission over Bush's initial objections, called the appointment a good beginning and said he suspected that Kissinger did not want to end his career on a partisan note.

    Kissinger, chairman of an international consulting firm that carries his name, has ties to the Bush family and has provided informal advice to the White House. He donated thousands of dollars to Republican candidates in the last two election cycles, though none to Bush himself.

    The president signed the bill one day after the White House said Bush did not envision testifying to the panel, in part because there was no precedent for it.

    However, President Reagan testified before a panel he appointed to investigate the Iran-Contra affair and Ford testified before a House subcommittee about his pardoning of Nixon.

    Lieberman suggested he would seek Bush's testimony.

    ``I would be surprised if this commission, in pursuit of the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them God, did not want to speak with this president and high officials in this administration and previous administrations,'' the Democrat said.

  2. aichs47

    aichs47 Senior Member

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  3. Dr. Drew

    Dr. Drew Guest

    i think if my doctor told me that i had a limited time to live, i would just go and kill all of the bush administartion for the sake of the world.

    ...oops, is that considered terrorist activity? i guess teh constitution doesn't apply to me anymore.
  4. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    this does not lend the commission
    'instant respectability' if you know anything about
    this scum lord. first of all, kissinger is obsessed with
    secrecy, like his pal dubya, secondly he is considered
    a war criminal by alot of people. is it a good idea
    to have a highly suspect individual who has been in
    the driver's seat of american foreign policy for the
    past 30 years, someone who has been privy to america's
    intelligence operations and who just loves to be secretive heading
    up a commission to 'investigate' all angles of 9/11, including
    the very real possibility that the bush administration and
    the intelligence apparatus knew a hell of alot more than
    they claim?

    answer: FUCK NO.
  5. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

  6. WhAt_dA_fUcK

    WhAt_dA_fUcK Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 30, 2002 Messages: 1,149 Likes Received: 0
    dude that sucks.......

    KING BLING Guest

    I love value judgements in the media, its like you don't even have to really think about things.
  8. willy.wonka

    willy.wonka Guest

    so very sad..i knew this would happen..and the familys wanted somebody else to investigate.
  9. I dont know shit about that Kissinger dude...i'll take your word Brown..bad news

    White house|skullfaced
  10. OVERsketched

    OVERsketched New Jack

    Joined: Apr 24, 2002 Messages: 29 Likes Received: 0
    No matter who they put as the head of the investigation alot of shit would be covered up no matter if it was the single most crucial piece of eveidence they fucked up.
  11. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,278 Likes Received: 240
    i'm making boxes out of basswood for x-mas presents!!
  12. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    bald-faced liar

    The Latest Kissinger Outrage
    Why is a proven liar and wanted man in charge of the 9/11 investigation?
    By Christopher Hitchens
    Posted Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 3:36 PM PT

    The Bush administration has been saying in public for several months that it does not desire an independent inquiry into the gross "failures of intelligence" that left U.S. society defenseless 14 months ago. By announcing that Henry Kissinger will be chairing the inquiry that it did not want, the president has now made the same point in a different way. But the cynicism of the decision and the gross insult to democracy and to the families of the victims that it represents has to be analyzed to be believed.
    1) We already know quite a lot, thanks all the same, about who was behind the attacks. Most notable in incubating al-Qaida were the rotten client-state regimes of the Saudi Arabian oligarchy and the Pakistani military and police elite. Henry Kissinger is now, and always has been, an errand boy and apologist for such regimes.
    2) When in office, Henry Kissinger organized massive deceptions of Congress and public opinion. The most notorious case concerned the "secret bombing" of Cambodia and Laos, and the unleashing of unconstitutional methods by Nixon and Kissinger to repress dissent from this illegal and atrocious policy. But Sen. Frank Church's commission of inquiry into the abuses of U.S. intelligence, which focused on illegal assassinations and the subversion of democratic governments overseas, was given incomplete and misleading information by Kissinger, especially on the matter of Chile. Rep. Otis Pike's parallel inquiry in the House (which brought to light Kissinger's personal role in the not-insignificant matter of the betrayal of the Iraqi Kurds, among other offenses) was thwarted by Kissinger at every turn, and its eventual findings were classified. In other words, the new "commission" will be chaired by a man with a long, proven record of concealing evidence and of lying to Congress, the press, and the public.
    3) In his second career as an obfuscator and a falsifier, Kissinger appropriated the records of his time at the State Department and took them on a truck to the Rockefeller family estate in New York. He has since been successfully sued for the return of much of this public property, but meanwhile he produced, for profit, three volumes of memoirs that purported to give a full account of his tenure. In several crucial instances, such as his rendering of U.S. diplomacy with China over Vietnam, with apartheid South Africa over Angola, and with Indonesia over the invasion of East Timor (to cite only some of the most conspicuous), declassified documents have since shown him to be a bald-faced liar. Does he deserve a third try at presenting a truthful record, after being caught twice as a fabricator? And on such a grave matter as this?
    4) Kissinger's "consulting" firm, Kissinger Associates, is a privately held concern that does not publish a client list and that compels its clients to sign confidentiality agreements. Nonetheless, it has been established that Kissinger's business dealings with, say, the Chinese Communist leadership have closely matched his public pronouncements on such things as the massacre of Chinese students. Given the strong ties between himself, his partners Lawrence Eagleburger and Brent Scowcroft, and the oil oligarchies of the Gulf, it must be time for at least a full disclosure of his interests in the region. This thought does not seem to have occurred to the president or to the other friends of Prince Bandar and Prince Bandar's wife, who helped in the evacuation of the Bin Laden family from American soil, without an interrogation, in the week after Sept. 11.
    5) On Memorial Day 2001, Kissinger was visited by the police in the Ritz Hotel in Paris and handed a warrant, issued by Judge Roger LeLoire, requesting his testimony in the matter of disappeared French citizens in Pinochet's Chile. Kissinger chose to leave town rather than appear at the Palais de Justice as requested. He has since been summoned as a witness by senior magistrates in Chile and Argentina who are investigating the international terrorist network that went under the name "Operation Condor" and that conducted assassinations, kidnappings, and bombings in several countries. The most spectacular such incident occurred in rush-hour traffic in downtown Washington, D.C., in September 1976, killing a senior Chilean dissident and his American companion. Until recently, this was the worst incident of externally sponsored criminal violence conducted on American soil. The order for the attack was given by Gen. Augusto Pinochet, who has been vigorously defended from prosecution by Henry Kissinger.

    Moreover, on Sept. 10, 2001, a civil suit was filed in a Washington, D.C., federal court, charging Kissinger with murder. The suit, brought by the survivors of Gen. Rene Schneider of Chile, asserts that Kissinger gave the order for the elimination of this constitutional officer of a democratic country because he refused to endorse plans for a military coup. Every single document in the prosecution case is a U.S.-government declassified paper. And the target of this devastating lawsuit is being invited to review the shortcomings of the "intelligence community"?

    In late 2001, the Brazilian government canceled an invitation for Kissinger to speak in Sao Paulo because it could no longer guarantee his immunity. Earlier this year, a London court agreed to hear an application for Kissinger's imprisonment on war crimes charges while he was briefly in the United Kingdom. It is known that there are many countries to which he cannot travel at all, and it is also known that he takes legal advice before traveling anywhere. Does the Bush administration feel proud of appointing a man who is wanted in so many places, and wanted furthermore for his association with terrorism and crimes against humanity? Or does it hope to limit the scope of the inquiry to those areas where Kissinger has clients?

    There is a tendency, some of it paranoid and disreputable, for the citizens of other countries and cultures to regard President Bush's "war on terror" as opportunist and even as contrived. I myself don't take any stock in such propaganda. But can Congress and the media be expected to swallow the appointment of a proven coverup artist, a discredited historian, a busted liar, and a man who is wanted in many jurisdictions for the vilest of offenses? The shame of this, and the open contempt for the families of our victims, ought to be the cause of a storm of protest.

  13. mikro137

    mikro137 Guest

    the end is neigh...
  14. Rodney Trotter

    Rodney Trotter Senior Member

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    grittylifer Banned

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