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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Ted Wakowski, Apr 9, 2002.

  1. Ted Wakowski

    Ted Wakowski Guest

    Stuff for your daily dose of non-conformity:

    "Fifteen Vietnamese women told CBS News and other Vietnamese newspapers that they were hit over the head by their supervisor for poor sewing at Nike's Sam Yang facility; two were later sent to the hospital. At Nike’s Tae Kwan Vina facility, women were forced by their supervisors to kneel down with their hands up in the air for 25 minutes. A supervisor also taped the mouth of several workers for talking during work. Throughout 1996, we found many incidents of corporal punishment at Nike factories reported by Vietnamese newspapers, i.e. forcing workers to stand in the sun (sun-drying), writing down their mistakes over and over again like parochial school children, cleaning the toilet and sweeping factory floors."

    "It is a common occurrence to have several workers faint from exhaustion, heat and poor nutrition during their shifts. We were told that several workers even coughed up blood before fainting."

    "Workers cannot go to the bathroom more than once per 8-hour shift and they cannot drink water more than twice per shift."

    "During January 1997, we found workers who worked over 80 hours of overtime"

    ^http://www.saigon.com/~nike/reports/report...1.html#liveable wages

    Ernst & Young found that toluene, a carcinogen, was in the air at different sites in the factory studied, six to 177 times the amount allowed by Vietnamese regulations, which itself is about four times as strict as American toluene standards. Extended exposure to the carcinogen toluene is known to cause damage to the liver, kidneys and central nervous system.



  2. oner

    oner Member

    Joined: Feb 8, 2002 Messages: 289 Likes Received: 0
    wow! thanks to sweatshops i only have to pay $300 for the freshest new kicks! bonzer!
  3. aederone

    aederone Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 288 Likes Received: 0
    oh yeah.....well...at my last job we had to wear black pants!.....
  4. Wilt

    Wilt Guest

    i hate nike.for all you Hurley fans out there...which i am not one of..Nike bought Hurley.peace
  5. nomadawhat

    nomadawhat Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 24, 2001 Messages: 5,001 Likes Received: 2
    here an interesting page:NIKEWAGES

    wow, nike sucks. so here is some anti-sweatshop clothing options:

    http://www.customatix.com <--- pay their workers decent living wages, just got a pair of these about a month or so ago. very nice shits, comfy, well built shoes!

    and i received this e-mail recently, they haven't started manufacturing yet, so everyone who cares go to the site and order a catalog they they can get the ball rolling!!

    "Getting serious about fighting sweatshops must include OFFERING
    ALTERNATIVES. To date, "responsible shopping" lists have offered pretty
    poor choices, to say the least. Please take a few seconds to look at
    our new effort.


    We're trying to gauge the level of support we can expect from the
    progressive community for our anti-sweatshop initiative before we
    production. What we're doing is pretty simple--providing a
    living wage to union producers here and in the developing world, a
    competitive product for consumers and a reasonable return for
    investors. We
    can do all that if we don't have to advertise. That's the big if. Will
    community spread the word about a for-profit venture? On the plus side,
    don't compete with the existing non-profits for scarce resources and

    Thanks for your time,

    Jeff Ballinger (Director, Press for Change)


    Adam Neiman
    Bienestar International
    Manufacturers of No Sweat Apparel
  6. Ted Wakowski

    Ted Wakowski Guest


    "Q: What happens if the world runs out of poverty?

    A: Nike is doing everything it can to prolong the existence of this profitable resource. Firstly, any services it runs in any Sweatshop™ community are oriented towards keeping the community at the poverty level. For instance, any schools we establish will only offer a very low level of education, and since we establish and run these schools, the government won't find a need to establish better ones. With these kinds of extremely low-cost "placebo" services that substitute for government institutions, not only will the community be crippled if Nike leaves, but we will also have the ability to shape its agenda towards our ends: the maintenance of poverty and subsistence wages. "

  7. -Rage-

    -Rage- 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Apr 12, 2001 Messages: 10,006 Likes Received: 28
    Just go naked.

    old news. :rolleyes:
  8. Ted Wakowski

    Ted Wakowski Guest

    Whoops, didn't realize this was considered outdated. Out with this one and on to the next anti-corporate rebellious trend ...
  9. *die*

    *die* Junior Member

    Joined: Nov 5, 2001 Messages: 249 Likes Received: 0

    i second that notion
  10. FROSTY

    FROSTY Senior Member

    Joined: Apr 22, 2001 Messages: 2,248 Likes Received: 5
    In all honesty i dont know why anyone bothers to talk about such subjects. the world is so fuked up. im just waiting for a huge comit or something to wipe out all of us. were stupid savage creatures and dont deserve a place on earth!

    sorry but im just gettin real fed up with shit these days, things just dont seem to change, and even when they do something else bad happens
  11. -Rage-

    -Rage- 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Apr 12, 2001 Messages: 10,006 Likes Received: 28
    Nothing will change. So stop thinking you can make it happen. Trust me. I've tried for years.

    You're only informing the public of what they already know. Do they care? No. Do they stop consuming? No.

    Why? Because it's the way of life. Those people making the clothes WANT thier jobs. THEY chose to work there.

    I have never bought anything related to sweatshop labor (i.e. The Gap, Old Navy, Banana Republic...the list goes on). I purchase my clothes from Salvation Army's across the nation. I like to see my money going to good. DON'T EVER fuck with me. I donated a car to the Salvation Army.

    I hate ignorant people. :heated:
  12. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    its a common misconception that all sweat shop workers are mistreated , i read a report that said that alot of them actually are thankful for having work and go their voluntarily looking for jobs , no matter what the pay.
  13. suburbian bum

    suburbian bum 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Jan 30, 2001 Messages: 14,673 Likes Received: 3
    Well, they are mistreated, but would they rather be working then sitting in their house starving? Yes.
  14. stupid412

    stupid412 Guest

    how can you shrug that shit off.....
    not cool and nike and its companies arent the only ones
    peace love and boycotts
  15. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    i aint shruggin it off , im just sayin what suburbianbum restated . as well as theirs nothing anyone can do about it . boycott or not .