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SUMMER SCHOOL ~ training bible

Discussion in 'Paper Chase' started by --zeSto--, Jul 3, 2002.

  1. --zeSto--

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    SUMMER SCHOOL ~ training bible

    Discussion started by --zeSto-- - Jul 3, 2002

    The Progression of Styles for the Purpose of Teaching

    http://www.dfected.net/zesto/SS.jpg'>

    Well it's Summer time, and that means summer school!
    Tesseract and I have been talking about creating a [b]'visual training bible'[/b]
    Why? Well because it's about damn time!

    So please contribute! More than just comments... this thread needs step-by-steps,
    unfinished pieces, half drawn outlines, constructing colour schemes and more!

    I know people will try to pull cards on this with comments like...
    [i]"Let the toys learn the hard way"[/i] and [i]"It's only going to encourage biters"[/i]
    Yeah... or maybe this thread will help a bunch of people get better,
    and then raise the quality of the fourm.
     
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    --zeSto-- - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    and let me get it started.....

    Leson #1

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    1. Find the basic shape of your letter.
    This is the groundwork that all letters come from.
    It's important to know how your hand relates to your full letters.
    Here I've picked a very simple, classis R to work with.

    2. Work out the size and proportions.
    I used a classic calligraphy trick here. A pencil and a pen
    are used together at the same time. This is a great way to perfect
    the [i]stress[/i] and [/i]slant of the letters. (look it up!)
    This letter needs to be enlarged, as it's way to bunched up for my taste.

    3. Corrected size and Shape.
    I know that this is nothing more than a handstyle R,
    but we are starting at the begining. I'm leaving the 'guide lines' on
    to show that the [i]line logic[/i] is correct. And for the record...
    I dont actually make letters like this. Once you understand the principals,
    you can freestyle all your curves and shapes. You just know where the lines should be.

    4. K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stooopid)
    So the letter is there and a basic straight 3D is on.
    I know it's boring.. but there's enough people who post that haven't yet
    mastered the most basic of letters.

    5. Style
    So this is the part that seperates the men from the boys.
    Once again.. I've left the extra lines in there to show the previous steps.
    This is where realy style some into play. [i]Serifs, ghosts lines and under/overlaps[/i]
    are used to add a little flair. And I added a 3D to clean up the overall shape.
    My letter's actually looking really messed up with those
    extra lines, but I think the point is clear...

    [b]A good letter can work on all levels, from handstyle to wildstyle.[/b]
     
  3. SayOne

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    SayOne - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    ooops wrong thread

    ....
     
  4. Zack Morris

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    Zack Morris - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    ^^^^ whats that?
     
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    DorkstaR - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    i was thinkin the same thing

    thats no progression sayone
     
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    DorkstaR - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    oh by the way...

    i lke your thread idea zack.....and your "r"
     
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    --zeSto-- - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    ^ you must mean zesto... but thanks anyways!
     
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    DorkstaR - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    oops...

    sorry zesto...i meant good point zack...bad ass thread idea zesto;) ;)
     
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    KINGREAL - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    this thread gave me a great idea!!! thanks zesto
     
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  10. bubble cloud

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    bubble cloud - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    using a tag as a guide for movement is a good way to map out a piece if your doing any style.but only as a line of movement.not a literal outline.its the way the art evolved.but i think your demonstration doesnt account for the thins and thickness in a piece .
     
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    TEE_rase_war - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    i always find that when one would do a style, sketch all your lines somewhat heavily....make all your lines visible, nomatter how overlapping they might be....


    it helps me, plus you can figure out your structure better if your just starting
     
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    --zeSto-- - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    ^ both very valid points!

    Now draw some examples!
     
  13. meone

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    meone - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    ROCK!!! thanx zesto this thrread helps already
     
  14. ~DeNtOnE~

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    ~DeNtOnE~ - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    well well well!

    cant teach an old dog new tricks eh.. i have been in the game for 2 1/2 years and i never thought about using hand style letters to make a peice letter thanks zesto now i feel bad for all the paper i wasted over ther years sigh~ oh ya i think some one should post the 4 or 5 pages that they got the a-z ones as a starting point .. do yall no what im talking bout?
     
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    EwokEoNe - Replied Jul 3, 2002

    tight thread zesto!!!
    this can help me out a lot. i've been tryin to get into piecin but when i get the pencil in my hand i just dont know where to begin.
    if some one can tell me where to that a-z thing that dent-one was talking bout it would help me out a lot.
    then i try out the thing zesto did with the and maybe i can actually get somewhere.........................thanks a lot!!!!!!!
     
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