bike messenger Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 hes been in jail since about 71 i think, for murdering 4 people. theyre going to execute him on the 13th. he was one of the founders of the crips. but since hes been in jail hes written a grip of childrens books about gang violence, and also lead antigang groups in prison and whatnot. pay your respects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsuifuku Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 its been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gooch Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 i'll pour some of my 40 out for him this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.C.Shadow Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Uh, he killed 4 people, why would I respect him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_dowmagik Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 respects? i wouldnt pay his cab fare to hell, let alone pay him respect. in before the lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
methadone program Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 too little, too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Dr. Dazzle@Dec 13 2005, 01:12 PM Uh, he killed 4 people, why would I respect him? Quoted post from what i've read the case against him was pretty dubious, but that's not to say that there weren't other serious crimes that he committed that would have attracted the same penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike messenger Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 sorry i guess i should have said something more along the lines of this: To Save a Life to Save Others Williams has been on death row at San Quentin State Prison since 1981, when he was convicted and sentenced to death by lethal injection for the slaying of store clerk Albert Owens during the robbery of a 7-Eleven store and the shooting deaths of three members of the Yang family — Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang and Yu-Chin Yang Lin — who operated a Los Angeles motel. Since his conviction, Williams has written nine books warning children and teenagers about the dangers of gang life. He's been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize five times and for the Nobel Prize for literature once. In 1993, he videotaped a message at San Quentin that was shown to 400 gang members, and he helped broker a truce between the rival Crips and Bloods gangs during the first-ever gang summit in Los Angeles. He also has written a "peace protocol" to help rival gangs work out disagreements. Williams, his supporters say, is a living example of the perils of gang life and can be much more valuable to enforcement officials — and to impressionable youth — if he is spared. "We would make a huge mistake to take such a valuable asset, such a brilliant source of expertise and throw that life away," said Bruce Gordon, president and chief executive of the NAACP. "It'll cause the lives of others to be lost and that makes absolutely no sense to me." "He is our secret weapon to help young African-Americans avoid gangs," Gordon continued. "We want to save his life so he can save the lives of others." Other supporters indicate that Williams' execution would extinguish the hopes of imprisoned gang members considering reform, telling them that no one, no matter what they do to change their ways, is worth saving — that there is no mercy for the reformed. "It would send a terrible message if Stan is executed," said Cameron Sturdevant, an organizer of the "Save Tookie" campaign in California and anti-death penalty activist. "It would not only send out a message of vengeance, avenging violence with violence. But also, if someone like Stan can't get clemency, then who can?" Opportunistic — and Unrepentant — Gang Icon? Williams' detractors say he is not a model of a convict deserving of clemency and that some of his supporters are using him — as they have other condemned inmates — to further their own cause. And while Williams has gained notoriety — and some nationwide sympathy — his alleged victims and their families have almost been forgotten. "What's troubling is that you have these celebrities who take up this cause and they don't know anything about the case and they don't know the victims' names or have never met any of the victims' families," said Jared Lewis. "The bottom line is that we still have relatives of his victims who live with what he did every single day. The wounds for them today are as fresh as they were more than 25 years ago." Lewis also suggests that Williams is opportunistic, taking credit for his good deeds while in prison but not his legacy as a Crips co-founder. "His supporters say he is reformed, but Mr. Williams has never admitted responsibility [for the slayings] — he hasn't taken that final step to full reform. And what I find interesting, that he takes credit for saving 1,500 lives but he doesn't mention anything about the lives lost because of the Crips," Lewis said. Williams' lawyers say he has repeatedly apologized for his past in his children's books and messages to gang members. However, he believes that becoming a police informant would ruin his credibility with the children he is trying to help. They would see him as a snitch and not trust him. "These children are listening to Stanley because of who he is and what he stands for," said Williams' attorney, Jonathan Harris. No physical evidence tied Williams to the slayings. Shell casings connected a gun Williams owned to the crime scenes, but his attorneys have challenged the efficiency of the ballistics tests used at the time of his trial. Key prosecution witnesses said that they heard Williams admit to and brag about the slayings. However, Williams' lawyers have argued that these witnesses had reason to lie: one was an alleged accomplice who was granted immunity while the other was a career criminal. In addition, Williams' attorneys have argued that the prosecution unfairly dismissed all potential black jurors, making the jury that ultimately convicted him racially biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
methadone program Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 not only did he kill four people, he did for $120...how fucken pathetic is that?? dude said he he had to support his angel dust habit!!!! haha that shits gots all kinda addictive qualities :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tough Love Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 he never showed remorse from what i hear who the fuck cares anyways. things seemed to run fine when i didnt even know who he was nor what was going on with him u get put on death row...u have 25 yrs to try and mount a successfull apeal or some shit fuck off, dude was a crook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 he killed a dude less than 5 miles from where i lay my head at night. personally it's good he's allegedly decided to try to speak out against gang violence whatever. but at the same time motherfucker had alot of time to think. he should just own up like a fuckin' man and say fuck it whether for the murders he went to trial for or others he maybe responsible for and say i did a lot of fucked up shit in my time here inadvertantly caused thousands of broken homes, families, deaths, and what not. now it's time for my sentence to be completed. if he were to be given a stay of execution every motherfucker on death row would write some bullshit book speaking out against drugs/gangs etc just to try to get out of execution. 'man up'/die tookie die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpyD Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Gang violence gets no love from the Spy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEDRO NAVAJA Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 WELL, I GOTS NO LOVE FOR HIM SCINCE HE HELPED FORM THE CRIPS BUT WE ALL GOTTA DIE SOMEDAY..... MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12:02p.m Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Dr. Dazzle@Dec 12 2005, 07:12 PM Uh, he killed 4 people, why would I respect him? Quoted post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoZe42 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 :burn: Did anyone see on the news, this guy came on saying he's the real founder of the crips and that tookie just a punk hood kid. the guys had boxing gloves, he said tookie deserves to die because when he killed those people he laughed and bragged about. I could just see his evil laugh hope he as fun in hell (if there is a hell) :burn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sparoism Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Some shit's gonna break off once dude dies. Mark my words. All the shit that's going on in Australia and what just happened in France is coming to a ghetto near you, USA. And, I LIVE in the ghetto, smack dab in the middle of Oakland. Hooray for the white guy. I'm rolling with mace, a boxcutter, AND a baseball bat strapped to my bike tomorrow if shit starts popping. That's assuming I leave the house. I think dude fucked up and should be punished, no doubt, but he's worth a lot more living than as a martyr. I also don't think he should ever get out of prison, either (just so I don't sound like a complete numbskull). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 The man should die. He wants to teach kids to stay away from gangs? He's about to give the best lesson anyone can imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Birch Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 theres a thread on this in crossfire. He scheduled to die tonight at 12:01...will it be televised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12:02p.m Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 he almost dies on my user name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainter Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 emmm last meal i wondert what he is having right now tick tick tick bye bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 He hasn't shown remorse for the people he killed because he hasn't admitted to killing them. And he started the crips, one of the most violent gangs to grace this nation. Fuck 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Birch Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 great some of you guys on here are better than some of the liberal pukes on crossfire. my question is, why are people who write children's books so crazy ? tookie lewis Carroll, writer, drug user, peodophile madonna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucksoe Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Mainter@Dec 13 2005, 04:11 AM emmm last meal i wondert what he is having right now tick tick tick bye bye Quoted post he refused a last meal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainter Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 thats to fuckin bad for him i woulda ate some fried shrimp,mashed potatos & gravy with a big ass side of cow oh and so popeys chicken with some babyback ribs drenched in sauce with some watermellon um damn im hungry of add some mint chocolate chip ice cream and some cheese cake oh and some A1 for my side of cow (good to the last drop) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I remember watching the movie Jamie Foxx did about this cat,he does deserve this shit because he killed innocent people,but atleast he changed his life around with the time he had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainter Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 well shit stupid ass PT time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 actually 4 hours and 11 minutes. 12:01am pacific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tough Love Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 people had 25 yrs to try making some case as to why he shouldnt die its not like he got sentenced to death yesterday. A little too late if u ask me. So he wrote some books, woopty fucking hoo rioting cuz of this would be gay too. i mean, its not like it was a surprise to anyone that he would get killed. what do you think happens to ppl on death row? gimme a break :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELLOness Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 What makes this guy so different from any other murderer? The fact that he got a bunch of other people to kill more innocent people? As tought love said before me, give me a fucking break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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