synaps Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 seeing as my original Sound and Geometry thread was deleted (mods???) i've decided to start a new one ... i had an update which tied into a previous post concerning religion that a few people wanted to know about. i'll get around to it after building this thread back up. for now, here is an extremely updated version of the original post. http://coewww.rutgers.edu/~shinbrot/Patterns/UmbanhowarPhoto.jpg'> http://oas.okstate.edu/ojas/mthra004.jpg'> A man by the name of Paul Umbanhowar did some interesting experiments at the University of Texas in the late 90's. To paraphrase his findings, Umbanhowar placed tiny brass balls on a flat plate, than oscillated them with acoustic waves. As he increased the frequency of the tones, the balls started to organize themselves into patterns. At first the patterns resembled small atoms, then as he increased frequency they started to look like a complex molecule then at even higher frequency the balls started to form shapes like protozoan organisms. http://www.physics.northwestern.edu/resear...arch/umban.html http://coewww.rutgers.edu/~shinbrot/Patter...tternsMain.html http://super.phys.northwestern.edu/~pbu/ http://oas.okstate.edu/ojas/mthra.htm#Fig7 This is a concept that was formulated in 1787 by Ernst Chladni who used a violin bow which he drew perpendicularly across the edge of flat plates covered with sand, he produced those patterns and shapes which today go by the term Chladni figures. This evenutally evolved into what is known as Cymatics. Through cymatics, a plate or membrane lined with sand, powder, iron filings or any other fine substance was vibrated at a particular tone, and depending on the tone or frequency, various geometrical shapes would form in the medium. At one particular tone, the mantra of "OM" was sounded using the human voice, remarkably, the cymatic interpretation created a pattern that had a figure in the middle that looked strikingly like the "OM" symbol. Here are some links to check out, and a cool picture to show you what I mean. http://www.mysticalsun.com/cymatics/cymatics.html http://fusionanomaly.net/cymatics.html http://www.cymaticsource.com/ http://www.mysticalsun.com/cymatics/cymatics2.gif'> from http://www.healingsounds.com/articles : "Many years ago, this wonderful Swiss doctor named Dr. Hans Jenny did these experiments, which he called “Cymatics” which is Greek for waveform (since sound travels as a wave). He took plastics, pastes, liquids, etc. and put them on a metal plate that he resonated with sound. These different substances would vibrate with the sound and create the most extraordinary shapes. Sometimes these inorganic substances would look like underwater lifeforms, or some microscopic organism. It’s quite extraordinary and makes you understand about the power of “The Word” that the ancients always talk about—that original creative sound. Now, Jenny found that even slight variances in the frequencies that he was using would create differences in the shapes and forms and these substances. The actual frequencies are very important." http://www.mysticalsun.com/cymatics/jenny.gif'> from another helpful person: the following from http://www.cymaticsource.com John Beaulieu, American polarity and music therapist. In his book Music and Sound in the Healing Arts,he draws a comparison between his own three-part structure, which in many respects resembles Jenny´s, and the conclusions researchers working with subatomic particles have reached. http://www.mysticalsun.com/cymatics/cymatics4.jpg'> "There is a similarity between cymatic pictures and quantum particles. In both cases that which appeares to be a solid form is also a wave. They are both created and simultaneously organized by the principle of pulse (Read: principle of vibration). This is the great mystery with sound: there is no solidity! A form that appears solid is actually created by a underlying vibration." Cathie E. Guzetta´s poetic contemplation of where the investigation of the relationship between sound and the arising of various life forms might lead us in the future: "The forms of snowflakes and faces of flowers may take on their shape because they are responding to some sound in nature . Likewise, it is possible that crystals, plants, and human beings may be, in some way, music that has taken on visible form ." http://www.cymaticsource.com/cy-6.gif'>http://www.cymaticsource.com/cy-3.gif'>http://www.cymaticsource.com/cy-2.gif'> http://www.cymaticsource.com/CY-1.gif'> Interview link below about cymatics and how they apply to each of our lives . with Jeff Volk for the Laura Lee show. http://www.lauralee.com/audio/asx/090701.asx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 A+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaius Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 very cool, id like to see what it would look like to play different types of music and film the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaps Posted May 14, 2004 Author Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by Zaius very cool, id like to see what it would look like to play different types of music and film the results. was covered in the original thread ... till it got deleted :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duh-rye-won Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 excellent. this shit really fascinates me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 fucking sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCosaNostra Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 fucking fresh how can i do this at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavyLox Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 the science museum in Richmond VA used to have an exhibit that allowed you to dump sand on a metal tray and vibrate it with a bow and it would do this it was very cool. This was back before MTV and colored tv, so it was a gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duh-rye-won Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Originally posted by heavyLox the science museum in Richmond VA used to have an exhibit that allowed you to dump sand on a metal tray and vibrate it with a bow and it would do this it was very cool. This was back before MTV and colored tv, so it was a gas. i remember that. that was cool. rubbing the bow on the metal kinda gave me the willies tho. it hand a weird fingernails on blackboard feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr430n5_666 Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 http://www.kak.ru/images/archive/13-14/japan/tokyo/tokio17.jpg'> ding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaps Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 mini update: http://ascension2000.com/ConvergenceIII%5C...02-ltsndgeo.htm http://www.jimalbani.com/media/FlowerofLife-ani.gif'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synaps Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 btw, sorry i haven't been updating ... trying to deal with moving & much much much more bullshit on the intraweb is one thing ... updating some positive information is something i can't deal with right now sorry guys will have a proper update soon ... promise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milton Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 That shape you just posted synaps is interesting. It's the "flower of life" isn't it? I remember reading some where that it can be used in different ways to diagram every solid known to man or something of that nature. That by folding it in a different way you can come up with every archemedian solid. Does that ring a bell for anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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synaps Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 Originally posted by Milton@May 30 2004, 12:25 PM That shape you just posted synaps is interesting. It's the "flower of life" isn't it? I remember reading some where that it can be used in different ways to diagram every solid known to man or something of that nature. That by folding it in a different way you can come up with every archemedian solid. Does that ring a bell for anyone? Quoted post right you are, ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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