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something awful

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by casekonly, Nov 3, 2005.

  1. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 8,264 Likes Received: 5
    Sun Oct 30, 6:12 PM ET

    ALISO VIEJO, Calif. - Investigators said Sunday they may never know why a 19-year-old man dressed in a dark cape and paintball mask went on a shooting rampage in an upscale community, killing two neighbors and himself.

    William Freund, described as a loner, used a 12-gauge shotgun Saturday to kill a neighbor and her father, who lived just 100 yards away, police said. Freund then fired into a separate house and aimed his gun at another neighbor before returning home and committing suicide.

    "The motive may never be known," Orange County Sheriff's Department spokesman Jim Amormino said. "It may have been a random thing. What set him off is the big question we're trying to find out."

    The victims were identified as Christina Smith, 22, and her father, Vernon Smith, 45.

    Police said there was no known link between Freund and the Smiths except that they were neighbors in the large subdivision in the hills above Aliso Viejo, a wealthy section of south Orange County.

    Amormino said investigators found no evidence that Freund had been using drugs or alcohol, but added that toxicology tests would take several weeks to complete.

    Freund lived with his parents and had been unemployed since graduating from high school in 2003, Amormino said.

    Police did not know where Freund bought the weapon or whether it was legally purchased. They said his parents told them they had no clue he had been keeping a gun in their house.

    The violence occurred Saturday morning when Freund drove the short distance to the Smiths' house. A 20-year-old son escaped after hearing shots.

    Freund then walked across the street and fired into another house, where an occupant suffered cuts from broken glass, Amormino said.

    Freund tried to fire at a neighbor who came outside after hearing the commotion, but the gun misfired, Amormino said. Freund went home and killed himself with the same firearm.

    "It's without a doubt very bizarre behavior," Amormino said.


  2. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

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  3. La Cosa Nostra

    La Cosa Nostra Junior Member

    Joined: Oct 4, 2005 Messages: 147 Likes Received: 0
    isn't this kind of old...and fake?
  4. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 8,264 Likes Received: 5
    how is it fake? i posted the link from yahoo news.

    somethign else: it's from fucking sunday...like, less than a week ago.
  5. Dr. Dazzle

    Dr. Dazzle Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 19, 2001 Messages: 8,147 Likes Received: 3
    That's going to happen on 12oz one day....
  6. Dawood

    Dawood Elite Member

    Joined: May 8, 2002 Messages: 4,677 Likes Received: 146
    thats bugged out.
  7. La Cosa Nostra

    La Cosa Nostra Junior Member

    Joined: Oct 4, 2005 Messages: 147 Likes Received: 0
    Ah, yea, nevermind. That was some other shit where another psycho went around with a twelve-gauge shooting people.
  8. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 8,264 Likes Received: 5


    lacosa: i remember that shit.
  9. mackfatsoe

    mackfatsoe Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 8, 2004 Messages: 6,532 Likes Received: 168
    I actually live in the same building as some dudes who went to high school with this kid, and live in the same neighborhood.

    They said he got picked on a lot, but more than that, was generally just ignored by everyone because he was a strange dude.

    Either way, real sad.
  10. sarcasm

    sarcasm Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Messages: 3,352 Likes Received: 35
    yeah the story is real. that area is a couple cities away from me. we get the weirdos around here...

    2 stories that this reminds me of that happend around my way:

    1.) a large % of a community was evactuated b/c some guy burried huge bombs and chemical warfare shit in his backyard


    2.) an angry employee at albertsons goes in w/ a samurai sword and chops people up
  11. fermentor666

    fermentor666 Veteran Member

    Joined: Sep 27, 2003 Messages: 8,152 Likes Received: 15
    Psycho's on slaughter rampages aren't anything new in this day and age. The continious spread of the internet into every facet of America guarentees that there will be incidents like this where connections can be drawn between the shooter and random websites. Let's just hope the media doesn't blow things out of proportion.
  12. guerillaeye

    guerillaeye Senior Member

    Joined: Jul 13, 2005 Messages: 1,473 Likes Received: 0
    pictures? link?
  13. Herbivore

    Herbivore Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 12, 2004 Messages: 1,431 Likes Received: 1
    I actually read about this on another news site a few days ago, and they said he frequented wrongplanet.net, a site for people with a certain type of autism. It also said that he had posted several threats online about hurting those who had hurt him, so I don't think it was completely random.
  14. Gat Bush

    Gat Bush Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 23, 2003 Messages: 9,817 Likes Received: 129
    people just snap sometimes. scary bizness.