casekonly Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Sun Oct 30, 6:12 PM ET ALISO VIEJO, Calif. - Investigators said Sunday they may never know why a 19-year-old man dressed in a dark cape and paintball mask went on a shooting rampage in an upscale community, killing two neighbors and himself. ADVERTISEMENT William Freund, described as a loner, used a 12-gauge shotgun Saturday to kill a neighbor and her father, who lived just 100 yards away, police said. Freund then fired into a separate house and aimed his gun at another neighbor before returning home and committing suicide. "The motive may never be known," Orange County Sheriff's Department spokesman Jim Amormino said. "It may have been a random thing. What set him off is the big question we're trying to find out." The victims were identified as Christina Smith, 22, and her father, Vernon Smith, 45. Police said there was no known link between Freund and the Smiths except that they were neighbors in the large subdivision in the hills above Aliso Viejo, a wealthy section of south Orange County. Amormino said investigators found no evidence that Freund had been using drugs or alcohol, but added that toxicology tests would take several weeks to complete. Freund lived with his parents and had been unemployed since graduating from high school in 2003, Amormino said. Police did not know where Freund bought the weapon or whether it was legally purchased. They said his parents told them they had no clue he had been keeping a gun in their house. The violence occurred Saturday morning when Freund drove the short distance to the Smiths' house. A 20-year-old son escaped after hearing shots. Freund then walked across the street and fired into another house, where an occupant suffered cuts from broken glass, Amormino said. Freund tried to fire at a neighbor who came outside after hearing the commotion, but the gun misfired, Amormino said. Freund went home and killed himself with the same firearm. "It's without a doubt very bizarre behavior," Amormino said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051030/ap_on_...borhood_rampage http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthrea...hreadid=1711278 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted November 4, 2005 Author Share Posted November 4, 2005 Target Practice posted: Okay. Deep breaths guys. Did we make fun of an autistic kid, tell him where he can find buckshot, then laughed about it? Oh, shit. Yeah, we did. EDIT: And then he killed people. And himself. I don't think I'm sleeping tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Cosa Nostra Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 isn't this kind of old...and fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted November 4, 2005 Author Share Posted November 4, 2005 how is it fake? i posted the link from yahoo news. somethign else: it's from fucking sunday...like, less than a week ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 That's going to happen on 12oz one day.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 thats bugged out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Cosa Nostra Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Ah, yea, nevermind. That was some other shit where another psycho went around with a twelve-gauge shooting people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted November 4, 2005 Author Share Posted November 4, 2005 Originally posted by Dr. Dazzle@Nov 4 2005, 12:50 AM That's going to happen on 12oz one day.... Quoted post yep... lacosa: i remember that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackfatsoe Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I actually live in the same building as some dudes who went to high school with this kid, and live in the same neighborhood. They said he got picked on a lot, but more than that, was generally just ignored by everyone because he was a strange dude. Either way, real sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasm Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 yeah the story is real. that area is a couple cities away from me. we get the weirdos around here... 2 stories that this reminds me of that happend around my way: 1.) a large % of a community was evactuated b/c some guy burried huge bombs and chemical warfare shit in his backyard and 2.) an angry employee at albertsons goes in w/ a samurai sword and chops people up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Psycho's on slaughter rampages aren't anything new in this day and age. The continious spread of the internet into every facet of America guarentees that there will be incidents like this where connections can be drawn between the shooter and random websites. Let's just hope the media doesn't blow things out of proportion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guerillaeye Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Originally posted by sarcasm@Nov 4 2005, 01:09 AM yeah the story is real. that area is a couple cities away from me. we get the weirdos around here... 2.) an angry employee at albertsons goes in w/ a samurai sword and chops people up Quoted post pictures? link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbivore Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I actually read about this on another news site a few days ago, and they said he frequented wrongplanet.net, a site for people with a certain type of autism. It also said that he had posted several threats online about hurting those who had hurt him, so I don't think it was completely random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gat Bush Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 people just snap sometimes. scary bizness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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