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social engineering,human conditioning and a general dumbing effect on our generation

Discussion in 'News' started by Dawood, Apr 11, 2006.

  1. Dawood

    Dawood Elite Member

    Joined: May 8, 2002 Messages: 4,677 Likes Received: 146
    I'm not huge on conspiracy theories, but there is a lot of good information on the website where I got this article. If you have any more information or discussion on the horrible direction our popular culture is leading us , I guess this is the official 12oz. spot to discuss it. I think people are way too quiet about these issues, almost like everyone is silently guilty of being a consumer whore these days.



    Subtle Messages, Profound Implications

    Advertising, Social Engineering, & the New World Order

    Introduction:
    Most of us see hundreds each day and thousands each week. Their messages are subtle, and repeated and reinforced incessantly. They are on television, on the highways, on city buses, atop buildings, in magazines and newspapers, and even in our conversations as we repeat them to ourselves and others. They reach the very depths of our consciousness. And if allowed to enter unimpeded and unquestioned, their concepts become part of our being... They are advertisements. They offer subtle messages with profound implications.
    Because we hate commercial messages, it's easy to dismiss them as unworthy of serious study. Furthermore we may underestimate the impact that ads actually have on us and our children. This...can have subtle, but far-reaching consequences. (DeMoss Jr., Robert, Learn to Discern, pg 22)​
    Many of us are unaware of the dangers that ads pose to our individual selves and to our society as a whole. And our ignorance is by design. Were we to realize their impact on our psyches and our souls and our interpersonal relationships, we might never look at them. But still, we watch. And worse, we regurgitate their messages to others. And still worse, we think their ideas to be our own. We think their doctrine to be truth. This is because we have been had. We have been manipulated, and continue to be so, and we still go back for more. We think we are free, but only because we have been conditioned to think so. We believe that we think freely, but the parameters have been defined by other than ourselves.
    They are, generally, unaware of the extent to which they are manipulated, managed, and conditioned by media, governments, leaders, and institutions that serve the vested interests of their political-social-economic systems. (Key, Wilson Bryan, The Age of Manipulation, pg 95)​
    Remarkably, virtually everyone in developed countries desperately tries to believe that they are immune to indoctrination. They think they think for themselves and readily know the difference between truth and falsity, fantasy and reality, superstition and science, fact and fiction. Technologically sophisticated cultures are conditioned to accept belief systems, behaviors, and values that would have been rejected out of hand by their stone-age predecessors. Primitives would instantly sense the obvious threats to survival and adjustment, or simple nonsense, inherent in many of the treasured beliefs of modern society. (Key, Wilson Bryan, The Age of Manipulation, pg 95)​
    The people who watch more and know less don't necessarily know they are being politically massaged or how media manipulation has become so invisibly institutionalized. They don't know that dumbing down is not just an incidental effect of the way many media outlets operate but a reflection of conscious and calculated policies of down-market targeting. (Schechter, Danny, The More you Watch the Less you Know, pg 73)​
    The advertising industry, in conjunction with corporate and media conglomeration, are destroying the family, and with it, society. Their messages are contrary to the prophetic tradition. They manipulate our language and alter our precepts. They discard history in favor of a strange worship of "progress". And we have been converted. The focus, here, is only one component of the indoctrination and conversion process; advertising.

    the rest of the article and many more like it is here...
    http://etori.tripod.com/dajjalsystem/nwo-subtle.html
     
  2. Larry Pubes

    Larry Pubes Member

    Joined: Apr 7, 2006 Messages: 675 Likes Received: 1
    i didn't read that, but just wanted to say there's a killer bbc documentary that just came out called 'century of the self' that you can find and watch the 4 parts if you google it. alot of relevent, historical stuff that most people today would scoff off at as unreal. another awesome resource is a book called 'taking the risk out of democracy' which gives a historical account of the rise of corporate propaganda in america and the massive influence it's had in shaping the world.
     
  3. The Man with the Answers

    The Man with the Answers Member

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    there was way more advertisment in the 19th century and early 20th century...its not an issue... and if you ask me I think the world is becoming a safer and generally better place...of course there are reactionaries who will holler and scream about the "old days", but hasn't that always been the case?
     
  4. Larry Pubes

    Larry Pubes Member

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    how was there 'way more advertisment in the 19th and early 20th century' than now?
     
  5. SCREENNAME

    SCREENNAME New Jack

    Joined: Apr 1, 2006 Messages: 97 Likes Received: 0

    I know right. I laughed out loud when I read that.
     
  6. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 18, 2001 Messages: 5,263 Likes Received: 40
    Google "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars".
    Read it, it's not THAT long.


    Supposedly, it was retrieved out of an IBM copy machine in 1986 at a flea market, it's dated 1979. It contains the manifesto of the New World Order. It's in the opening chapter of "Behold A Pale Horse".

    Now, I try to remain in "reality" when it comes to any conspiracy theory stuff, but if you read the paper.... you can see most of the discussed items happening right now.

    It's an interesting read.
     
  7. The Man with the Answers

    The Man with the Answers Member

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    Re: social engineering,human conditioning and a general dumbing effect on our generat



    then niggas, yous be ignorant
     
  8. The Man with the Answers

    The Man with the Answers Member

    Joined: Apr 8, 2006 Messages: 781 Likes Received: 2
    Re: social engineering,human conditioning and a general dumbing effect on our generat

    its not my muthafuckin job to kick the "KNOWN " SHIT (sorry caps)...
     
  9. Larry Pubes

    Larry Pubes Member

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    uh...so can you maybe elaborate how there was 'way more' advertising back then than there is now?
     
  10. Larry Pubes

    Larry Pubes Member

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    also, do you know much about public relations and advertising history in america from the early 20th century? fill me in on some of that unknown shit..
     
  11. tabloid-

    tabloid- Senior Member

    Joined: Apr 8, 2006 Messages: 1,066 Likes Received: 20
    I love this topic. The NLP of advertising, but only spoken word/TV advertising. Also there are some people who think that the NYC graffiti movement of the 70's and early 80's was a subconcious response to the boom in billboard and large scale print add campaigns of that time. Anyway, to touch on the point of the New World Order manifesto.... no need to look in a book for hidden messages.... the NWO has a website http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
     
  12. Tesseract

    Tesseract 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: May 13, 2001 Messages: 12,910 Likes Received: 17
    <currently downloading a torrent of the 4 part bbc docu pubes mantioned. Looks super interesting.

    http://www.mininova.org/get/226062

    ^in case anyone else is interested
     
  13. Dawood

    Dawood Elite Member

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    for real
     
  14. El Mamerro

    El Mamerro Dirty Dozen Crew

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    I wouldn't say there was MORE advertisement back then, but it was definitely just as pervasive as it is today. The difference is that there's more MEDIUMS today than back then, so the illusion of it being more pervasive is stronger.

    When you have no TV and no radio, simply having ads in all the newspapers is quite pervasive.
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2006
  15. Dawood

    Dawood Elite Member

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    theres definaly more advertising nowadays for the simple fact of there being WAAAAAAAY more businesses now. i mean half of the country that is being advertised in was a forest 30 years ago. I'm sitting in a coffee shop right now that was a patch of trees a year ago. Now they have signs out front , newspaper ads, commercials, flyers etc. etc.

    theres no way possible there was more advertising in the 19th and 20th century.
    I mean, the population of people has doubled since then or more.
    How could there have been more of anything back then?
     
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