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skinhead FAQ

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Mr. Mang, May 30, 2002.

  1. Mr. Mang

    Mr. Mang Elite Member

    Joined: Feb 27, 2002 Messages: 2,901 Likes Received: 1
    this is from the AAMLA site; written by a friend of a friend who got a bunch of shit at school because he's a skinhead. read up so you don't become one of those kids giving him shit cause you don't know what you're talking about. sound tha bell - school's in sucka!

    enjoy.





    A Brief History of Skinheads as well as some Skinhead FAQs. Written and researched By Adam Buntain

    What are Skinheads and where do they come from?
    Skinheads are people, both male and female that share common ideals and beliefs about music, their way of life, their way of dress as well as other shared interests. Political views are left out because they tend to make people angry and mess up unity. Just like any other Subculture, we are made up of different races, political ideals, and upbringings; both religiously and economically.
    Skinheads come from England. The subculture originated in the late 1960s and descends directly from the MOD movement of England. The popular belief that skinheads spawned from Nazi resentment/sympathy after WWII (Note: Nazi boneheads tend to spread rumors like this) or that they come from Jamaica are completely untrue (Note: Rude Boys come from Jamaica and Skinheads are descendant from them, but the Skinhead movement originated in Britain). History proves this with several facts but the media focuses on the hate mongers that will be covered next.

    Aren’t all Skinheads racist?
    Absolutely NOT. Not all Skinheads are racist. There are three major types of Skinheads: 1. There are racist skinheads, commonly referred to as boneheads. These are the Skinheads you see on TV and read about in the papers and Magazines. (Note: Why, you ask? Because the media likes to dig up dirt.) Most of these people haven’t a clue what being a skinhead is about much less have a clue about being civilized human beings.
    2. There are SHARPS or ARA Skinheads. Sometimes they’re communists, sometimes they’re not, but basically, they tend to be so Anti-Racist that they end up being racist. Kind of hypocritical isn’t it? They at least generally know the history and dress in the typical skinhead fashion, however.
    3. There are Trads (Traditional Skins) or your Non-Racist Skinheads. They stick as closely as possible to the original ways of the Skinhead. Most of us don’t talk about politics or even care about them much. But if you ask we all have our own beliefs about politics, unlike the “Mob Mentality” of the groups mentioned before. Most of us don’t like racism, but we really don’t tend to care all that much either. Politics mess up the Skinhead culture. (Note: From now on when Skinheads are mentioned, it refers to Trad or Non-Racist Skinheads)

    What do Skinheads do?
    Skinheads are basically like any other group or Subculture. We just like to hangout with our mates and have a few beers. Sometimes maybe we’ll all go to a show or a club and chase byrds, or if you’re a Skingirl, chase boys. It’s all about having fun in life. You stick with your mates through thick and thin.

    Are Skinheads Violent or Mean?
    Yes and No. The Skinhead movement is typically regarded as being a violent youth group, but it is no more violent than any group or subculture that has come before it. Here in the U.S.A., there were Rockers and Bikers in the 1950s and they were as violent as any Skinhead today. Skinheads fight mostly with anyone who gives us a hard time or accuses us of being Nazis or some other distasteful thing that no one wants to be called. We are violent in our own ways, but we’re not out to cause trouble. My advice to anyone is to not just walk up to someone say “Hey guys, what’s up?” because if you’re not a skinhead you may get messed with, and even if you are a skinhead, you may get heckled a bit. You don’t start off with trust in our Subculture. You earn it.

    Are Skinheads in a gang?
    If you ask police or any other Law Enforcement organization, then they will tell you that all skinheads in our area are in one gang and that we’re all racist. Any halfway-educated person would realize that that accusation is far from true. Skinheads have friends and most of them are, in fact, other skinheads. These groups of friends, in turn, form Crews. Crews are not gangs in the true sense of the word. They don’t go shooting rival crews, maybe rough them up a bit sometimes, but people have different beliefs and therefore cannot always get along. Most skinheads are not in Crews. The thing is, all of us are in the same Subculture and we all stick together no matter what. Like all people we do have our disagreements, however. But the notion that all Skinheads are a gang is false.

    What kind of music do Skinheads listen to?
    Skinheads listen to all types of music, but the most common genres are Oi!, Ska, Punk, and Hardcore. Oi! Music and Hardcore are two of the best musical forms ever created, and Skinhead bands were pioneers in both. Oi! is like punk rock, only it deals with subjects many would find offensive or even distasteful. Hardcore is, well, like the name sounds, it’s Hard and sometimes closely resembles Metal. Punk music is very close to Oi!, but was around before Oi! came into being. It is the foundation of our musical tastes and shares a lot of the same sound as Oi! The Ska that skinheads listen to is not the 3rd wave punk/ska stuff that you hear on the radio or see popularized these days. Ska started in Jamaica around 1965-1967 and was brought to England in about 1968. The first generation of skinheads fell in love with it, but by 1975 Ska was dead and punk rock came around and the Skins were saved! These are not the only genres Skinheads listen to, however. Many are just as at home with blues or rockabilly as they are with Oi!

    What kind of clothes do Skinheads wear?
    We mostly wear Levi’s Jeans, Fred Perry and Ben Sherman shirts, along with the ever-faithful Doc Marten Boots or some other similar type of boot. (Note: Skinheads are often referred to as Boot Boys due to the fact that we always wear our boots.) The dress is neat and sharp looking. On one hand you’ve got to look like your mothers golden boy, but on the other hand tough enough so nobody is going to want to mess with you.

    What do colored bootlaces mean?
    A Skinhead’s bootlaces mean just what they mean for everyone else. They hold our boots on. There are many “interpretations” of what bootlaces mean, but to be totally honest, it’s for looks. Red Laces look the best in Black Boots, and White look the best in Oxblood books. That’s the total truth. If you ask a Nazi Bonehead or a SHARP or ARA skin, then they’ll tell you that White means white power, and that Red means you’re a Nazi, and Plaid or Black means Anti-Racist. Law Enforcement as well as uneducated folks often fall victim to this, the most common of Skinhead misconceptions. Bootlaces are about holding our boots on and wearing the colors we like. That’s all and nothing more.

    What do a Skinhead’s suspenders mean?
    What do you think they mean? They’re to hold up our pants! And they’re not called "suspenders," they are BRACES. And thirdly, they don’t mean anything regarding color, just like bootlaces. It’s just about your own fashion sense and wearing the colors you like to wear.

    Now You Know.
    Well, that’s about all you need to know about the Skinhead Subculture. Now that you know we’re not all racists or Nazis, you have a better understanding of a group that has been involved in the underground music scene since the late 1960s. Bands like The Specials, Selecter, Inspecter 7, the Templars, Agnostic Front, The Business, and countless others have Skinhead members and are widely renown in the punk rock/Skinhead/Hardcore scene. Maybe now you can respect us when you see us walking down the street instead of making petty assumptions that keeps you from knowing some pretty interesting people.
     
  2. yoink

    yoink Elite Member

    Joined: May 27, 2002 Messages: 3,428 Likes Received: 0
    cool stuff

    i knew a kid in highschool who was a skin head...traditional he said, he lectured us once,...now hes a marine.
     
  3. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    well sorry to tell you... but the skinhead has changed!

    it IS associated with Racism, and that connection will not be broken.
    Just like the Swastika was turned from a universal symbol of faith,
    into a generic symbol of hatered.

    Some things cant be turn back to the way they once were.
     
  4. Mr. Mang

    Mr. Mang Elite Member

    Joined: Feb 27, 2002 Messages: 2,901 Likes Received: 1
    not true zesto. there are PLENTY of nonracist skinheads. and Hindu people STILL use swastikas to this day in their temples.
     
  5. yoink

    yoink Elite Member

    Joined: May 27, 2002 Messages: 3,428 Likes Received: 0
    i agree with zesto on the fact that it will probably remain unacceptable just due to the fact on peoples perception of other people...and general sentiment of a skinhead no matter is some bigot...it may be wrong but its the stereotype and it is to stapled...unless after 50 yrs or somethign it wears but...:cool:

    not saying there anrent non racists as you put it mang..just stereotypes are hard to change
     
  6. Mr. Mang

    Mr. Mang Elite Member

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    the whole point of this is to INFORM people that not all skinheads are racists. that way maybe you can inform someone else, sucka!
     
  7. yoink

    yoink Elite Member

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    good point let the knowledge spread and infect :idea:
     
  8. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    oh yeah... I totally agree that not all skinheads are facists.
    Just like 99% of the swastikas in history were good ones...

    but I'm saying that public perception will be very hard to change.
    Just like the names Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Osama, they have a stigma.
     
  9. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 14, 2000 Messages: 17,017 Likes Received: 174
    Q. Why does a skinhead wear red suspenders?

    A. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO TELL YOU!!!


    Zesto's right, you can't un-ring a bell.
     
  10. Mr. Mang

    Mr. Mang Elite Member

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    for those who believe you can't "un-ring a bell" or get rid of sterotypes consider this:

    kids in gangs spraypaint on walls to mark territory, right?
    kids like you do it for art.

    both called grafitti even though you have different intent. do you allow people to call you a gang member because of what you do? of course not.

    i hope that was a decent scenario.
     
  11. skinhead as a haircut= ok
    skinhead as a belief/way of thought or life= bad
     
  12. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 14, 2000 Messages: 17,017 Likes Received: 174
    Kids like me don't give a fuck what other people call them.
     
  13. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    well here's a better version of the stereotyping...

    pierced left ear = straight
    pierced right ear = gay

    well what if you have both ears pierced? (like mine)

    A girls mom asked if it meant I was ac/dc (nice term).
    No.. it means I like symmetry and balance. That's it.

    some people may want to believe a lie,
    but when the lie has gotten so big that it's involed thousands of people
    and the loss of human life, it's imposible to 'un-cut the hole'
     
  14. vinyl junkie

    vinyl junkie Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 17, 2002 Messages: 4,725 Likes Received: 0
    god i hate this shit... i deal with skins all the fucking time, and no, i'm not gonna say they're all racist, but i will say this: first, a good chunk of them are. don't try to tell me how small you think the percentage is, enough of them are racist. second, the ones that aren't racist choose to associate themselves with a group that is percieved to be racist (and yes, i do the exact same thing by being involved in graffiti, i'm just stating a fact)... you can try to wittle down the differences between the trads and the meatheads (that's what we call em out here) but in the end, they all wear the same uniform... Third, saying they're no more violent than any other "violent" group in history is a total cop-out... violent is violent... so since rockers and bikers were assholes back in the day that gives you the right to beat anyone that looks at you funny? i have a good handfull of skin friends, but these are the ones that don't fight!!! at my job i am sometimes responsible for the safety of some times up to 400 people... and when skins show up i know that i need to be ready to start breaking up fights, and then, most likely be in a few myself... i hate fighting- i hate getting hurt and i hate hurting other people- so i always try to solve things at work without it coming down to a fight... but believe me i have knocked out quite a few skinhead teeth-- trad, sharp, and nazi skin teeth...

    anyways, racists or not, being violent isn't cool in my book...
     
  15. mafIAkilla

    mafIAkilla Guest

    well,like mang said,this is just to inform you.even if the general public does not pick up on this for many years to come,at least you know.soo.....
     
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