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Senator Boxer Shows Conde Rice To Be A Liar

Discussion in 'News' started by robJ, Jan 20, 2005.

  1. robJ

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  2. haunts

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    Senator Boxer Shows Conde Rice To Be A Liar
    Sam Hamod

    Jan. 18, 2005

    This morning, at 9.40 a.m., Senator Barbara Boxer listed fact after fact, in statements by Conde Rice, that showed she contradicted herself time and again about Al Qaeda, about Saddam and his alleged WMD’s, and his intentions--all of which led us to war against Iraq. Boxer went on to show that Conde Rice, even more recently, was caught lying the more by contradicting statements by the CIA’s intelligence reports and contradicting statements by President Bush. In all instances, Boxer showed quotes from Rice to make her points.

    In her response to Boxer, Rice sputtered and lied even more. She refused to respond to the facts that Boxer pointed out, instead she kept saying that her integrity and credibility were under question and that she resented this; this was clearly folly and a liar's farce. Clearly, Ms. Rice was shown to be a liar and an immoral person—not caring about those who have been killed in this Iraq war, this war that was clearly built on lies. The more she talked about her reputation for honesty in the face of her lies, the stranger she sounded--as if she, like Bush, was out of touch with reality.

    Among the contradictions that Senator Boxer pointed out were: 1. Rice said that Al Qaeda areas had shrunk; Boxer pointed out that Al Qaeda now had more lands in which it was operating than before the war on Iraq; 2. Rice said that the war was not about WMD’s or atomic weapons; Boxer pointed out that the congress supported the war on Iraq based on fear of WMD’s and atomic weapons that the administration claimed existed; 3. Rice said that Saddam had worked with Al Qaeda; Boxer pointed out that Saddam and Bin Laden were enemies and did not cooperate; 4. Rice said we’d made progress in the Arab and Muslims worlds; Boxer pointed out that there was more anger against America in Muslim and Arab lands since the invasion of Iraq, not less—this according to the CIA’s own intelligence bureau and the president’s own committee on combating terrorism; 5. Rice said that Al Qaeda was now more under control; Boxer pointed out that every governmental agency that has looked at the situation has made clear that Al Qaeda has appealed to more jihadist Muslims than anyone had ever imagined. Thus, Bin Laden’s hope had come true, America's attack on Iraq proved to most Arabs and Muslimst that America was attacking and desiring to take-over Arab and Muslim lands. Boxer made other points, but these are among the most important that showed Rice to either be a liar or an incompetent.

    During this time, Rice would quote Bush when she felt it was helpful, but even then Boxer pointed out when she contradicted the president when it suited her self-defense (especially with reference to Saddam and his alleged “nuclear weapons”, his infamous aluminum tubes and his “nuclear facilities.”)

    Rice kept saying that she did not want her credibility impugned—Senator Boxer then stated, “I am but quoting your own contradictions.” For any sane person listening to the comments, it was clear that Conde Rice has no credibility, no integrity and is not fit to hold an office as important as Secretary of State.

    We applaud Senator Boxer for her courage, her honesty and her care for the safety of the American people. We also applaud her for trying to restore some integrity to our Congress and to our senate. Those who simply caressed Rice this morning, were doing a disservice to our country. Clearly, Rice cannot stay with the truth. She is a person who is more loyal to GW Bush rather than to our safety. She is clearly not fit to hold this very important office. If she is put into this office, with her out of sync cold-war mentality, his misunderstanding of the Arab and Muslim worlds, her inability to understand Putin of Russia or why many European, Asian, African and Latin American countries distrust and fear us—America will be more danger than anyone can possibly imagine. I say this because she will exacerbate matters between America and the rest of the world, not help. Our isolation internationally is becoming worse everyday. To put in one of the architects of this isolation and loss of respect for America into a major office at this point would lead to more disasters down the road.

    I know that the Republicans probably have enough votes to put Rice into the position of Secretary of State. But it is my hope that some of them will have enough sense to stand against her, with some of the Democrats who may have the courage to finally stand up with Senator Boxer. Senator Boxer would make a much better Secretary of State than Conde Rice—the shame in America is that political cronies and political bedfellows like Rice get these important jobs, rather than people who are truly qualified to lead our nation.

    We say, bravo and thank you to Senator Boxer. To Conde Rice, we say, for shame.

    KING BLING Guest

    Where the Hell did Sen. Boxer come from?

    This women is a gangster, she has in the past few months been throwing blows like she has nothing to lose. If all democrats were pulling cards and taking chances like this there would be no doubt about 2008...well it would be nice at least
  4. dojafx

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    ^^^ for who, Hillary Clinton?
  5. nomadawhat

    nomadawhat Veteran Member

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    thats my senator!!!

    ...get em' girl
  6. SteveAustin

    SteveAustin Veteran Member

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    haha...I saw some video of this.

    just awesome. Ms. Boxer (aptly named if you ask me) really took Conde to the mat. You could just see Rice's demon eyes spinning around in those eye sockets with the steam just rolling off of her.

    ERIZENO Senior Member

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    Boxer is pulling all the stops and going full force.
    i like having her representing me.
    My gril had written to her on an issue, i forget off the top of the head what issue, she got a blanket response from boxer that was so cool.
    Its a start in the right direction .. i hope the rest of the party starts to emulate this kind of approach !!!
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  10. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    this from the 'madguerrillabrigade' link:


  11. !@#$%

    [email protected]#$% Moderator Crew

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    finally, a decent argument about the pros of conservatism


    yeah, that condi.
    i'm glad she got tarnished.

    first nominee to sec of state to get no votes in something like 30 years.
  12. SteveAustin

    SteveAustin Veteran Member

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    I'm telling you guys...she's gotta have a little paranha blood in her.

    check out the similarities:



    and especially this one:


    ERIZENO Senior Member

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  14. angelofdeath

    angelofdeath Elite Member

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    not that i like condi, but for christ sake, EVERYONE was decieved about iraq, every lied, and everyone changed position! and the dems have no chance for 2008, i hear newt is about to run.
    hillary vs newt.
  15. villain

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    The dems didn't change position... that is a media illusion.
    They were for invading iraq UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS.... (I really get tired of repeating myself.)

    Senator Boxer is really one of my heros... she has been keeping it real.