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Schwarzenegger: surprise, surprise...

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Dusty Lipschitz, Dec 9, 2003.

  1. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    its worse than that.
  2. ?
    you read all the stuff on the smoking gun?
    how his camp tried to discredit her by giving up info on a completely different Rhonda Miller.
  3. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    naw, i'm referring to the allegations that he met with
    ken lay and some other energy officials during the
    whole energy crisis. bustamante or whatever had some
    litigation going to get the people of california the money
    that enron and others stole from them..$9billion.
    when ahnold stepped in, the litigation was killed and
    the people responsible won't be held accountable, nor
    will their be any reparations.
    or something like that.
  4. and people thought the actor wouldnt make a good politician...
  5. gfreshsushi

    gfreshsushi Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 21, 2003 Messages: 2,244 Likes Received: 1
    actors have never made good politicians.
    reagan:bad president, worst california governor ever.
    schwarzenegger:don't get me started.
    sonny bono:rode his skis into trees more than he actually voted in congress.
    clint eastwood:mayor of carmel, ca. somehow brought tourism rates down when it had been going up steadily for over twenty years. congrats!

    i'm sure there's more, this is all i can recall off the top of my head...
  6. !@#$%

    [email protected]#$% Moderator Crew

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 18,517 Likes Received: 622
    Arnold Unplugged - It's hasta la vista to $9 billion if the Governator is selected
    Friday, October 3, 2003

    .....The wannabe governor has yet to deny that on May 17, 2001, at the Peninsula Hotel in Los Angeles, he had consensual political intercourse with Enron chieftain Kenneth Lay. Also frolicking with Arnold and Ken was convicted stock swindler Mike Milken.

    Now, thirty-four pages of internal Enron memoranda have just come through this reporter's fax machine tell all about the tryst between Maria's husband and the corporate con men. It turns out that Schwarzenegger knowingly joined the hush-hush encounter as part of a campaign to sabotage a Davis-Bustamante plan to make Enron and other power pirates then ravaging California pay back the $9 billion in illicit profits they carried off.

    Here's the story Arnold doesn't want you to hear. The biggest single threat to Ken Lay and the electricity lords is a private lawsuit filed last year under California's unique Civil Code provision 17200, the "Unfair Business Practices Act." This litigation, heading to trial now in Los Angeles, would make the power companies return the $9 billion they filched from California electricity and gas customers.

    It takes real cojones to bring such a suit. Who's the plaintiff taking on the bad guys? Cruz Bustamante, Lieutenant Governor and reluctant leading candidate against Schwarzenegger.

    Now follow the action. One month after Cruz brings suit, Enron's Lay calls an emergency secret meeting in L.A. of his political buck-buddies, including Arnold. Their plan, to undercut Davis (according to Enron memos) and "solve" the energy crisis -- that is, make the Bustamante legal threat go away.

    ....While Bustamante's kicking Enron butt in court, the Davis Administration is simultaneously demanding that George Bush's energy regulators order the $9 billion refund. Don't hold your breath: Bush's Federal Energy Regulatory Commission is headed by a guy proposed by … Ken Lay.

    But Bush's boys on the commission have a problem. The evidence against the electricity barons is rock solid: fraudulent reporting of sales transactions, megawatt "laundering," fake power delivery scheduling and straight out conspiracy (including meetings in hotel rooms).

    So the Bush commissioners cook up a terrific scheme: charge the companies with conspiracy but offer them, behind closed doors, deals in which they have to pay only two cents on each dollar they filched.

    Problem: the slap-on-the-wrist refunds won't sail if the Governor of California won't play along. Solution: Re-call the Governor.

    New Problem: the guy most likely to replace Davis is not Mr. Musclehead, but Cruz Bustamante, even a bigger threat to the power companies than Davis. Solution: smear Cruz because -- heaven forbid! -- he took donations from Injuns (instead of Ken Lay).

    The pay-off? Once Arnold is Governor, he blesses the sweetheart settlements with the power companies. When that happens, Bustamante's court cases are probably lost. There aren't many judges who will let a case go to trial to protect a state if that a governor has already allowed the matter to be "settled" by a regulatory agency.

    So think about this. The state of California is in the hole by $8 billion for the coming year. That's chump change next to the $8 TRILLION in deficits and surplus losses planned and incurred by George Bush. Nevertheless, the $8 billion deficit is the hanging rope California's right wing is using to lynch Governor Davis.

    Yet only Davis and Bustamante are taking direct action to get back the $9 billion that was vacuumed out of the state by Enron, Reliant, Dynegy, Williams Company and the other Texas bandits who squeezed the state by the bulbs.

    But if Arnold is selected, it's 'hasta la vista' to the $9 billion. When the electricity emperors whistle, Arnold comes -- to the Peninsula Hotel or the Governor's mansion. The he-man turns pussycat and curls up in their lap.

    I asked Mr. Muscle's PR people to comment on the new Enron memos -- and his strange silence on Bustamante's suit or Davis' petition. But Arnold was too busy shaving off his Hitlerian mustache to respond.
  7. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

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    shut up, i like clint.
  8. deadasdreams

    deadasdreams Member

    Joined: Apr 18, 2003 Messages: 486 Likes Received: 0
    eh...time for another recall..
  9. Gunm

    Gunm Banned

    Joined: Aug 31, 2003 Messages: 12,427 Likes Received: 1
    shit, bustamante would have had all white peoplesent off to death camps if he had made govenor.

    Yeah, like we the commoners of california would have seen ANY of that 9 billion from enron. pipe dreams people, pipe dreams
  10. ElectricitySucks

    ElectricitySucks Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 13, 2001 Messages: 6,395 Likes Received: 24
    is anyone else here confused?
  11. effyoo

    effyoo Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 2, 2002 Messages: 4,703 Likes Received: 0
    I still can't get over that Arnold is really your governor. It sorta makes me laugh.
  12. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    you're probably right, but..

    a) bustamante was publicly litigating for the money.
    B) arnold made shady backroom deals with proven scumbags
    that ripped off a whole state of people, and fucked over enron shareholders,
    and now thanks to arnold that money is gone into the blackhole pockets of elite gangsters who chill with the biggest gangsters in american political history with no chance of ever being recycled back into the economy.
  13. old*824

    old*824 Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 8, 2003 Messages: 1,362 Likes Received: 0
    that guy was on tv the other night talking about how his kids wanted new cellphones for christmas in the same breath as capping the enrollment over programs for kids that cant afford dental and vision care. in capping the services enrollments it was projected that tens of thousands of kids would not be covered in order to save 38.5 million a year, just about half of what the recall cost.
  14. deadasdreams

    deadasdreams Member

    Joined: Apr 18, 2003 Messages: 486 Likes Received: 0

    yeah we're a laughing stock...we have the govenator...we're fucked.