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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by seeking, May 7, 2004.

  1. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    since we're in the midst of the 10 year anniversary, figured this might be interesting to some folks.
  2. gfreshsushi

    gfreshsushi Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 21, 2003 Messages: 2,244 Likes Received: 1

    scary fucking shit.

    and someone else said this in another thread, but rwanda is still a fucking rad name for a country.
  3. EyeforAnEYE

    EyeforAnEYE Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 29, 2003 Messages: 4,199 Likes Received: 3
    I watched something, maybe that, on pbs the other month. Horrible. Bodies just strewn about everywhere, at chruches, the streets.
  4. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    they were killing 10,000 people a day with discarded pieces of metal, sharpened into machettes. if you wanted to be shot, you had to buy a bullet from the soldier.
    UN finally set up refugee camps at the end of it, so they just went into the refugee camps, and killed them all in one place. all of that in a country roughly the size (i believe) of ohio.

    yeah for that.
  5. GLIK$

    GLIK$ Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 23, 2002 Messages: 22,277 Likes Received: 117
  6. villain

    villain Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2002 Messages: 5,190 Likes Received: 2
    Shit has been heating up there again. Hope we don't see a repeat. The whole region is pretty fucked up. We have the dictator mugabe in the congo... We've got a civil war in western sudan as well as race wars between the arabs and the southern tribes, the Lords Resistance Army in southern Sudan, swooping down into Uganda to chase refugees. But I guess that was an accident. It's off the chain. Maybe a quick reaction force in africa would be a good thing.... An african army.
  7. El Producto

    El Producto Senior Member

    Joined: May 6, 2004 Messages: 1,682 Likes Received: 0
    "rugged like rwanda
    dont wind up dead or get chopped up
    quick to rush the spot like baby urine get mopped up"

    what the hell is rwanda?:confused:
  8. LaCosaNostra

    LaCosaNostra Senior Member

    Joined: Feb 3, 2004 Messages: 2,191 Likes Received: 0
    what key part did the 12oz community play in this genocide?:idea:
  9. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    there'stalk that the plane carrying the Hudu leader was shot down by other Huds just so they could blame the Tutsis.
  10. 2 blaazed

    2 blaazed New Jack

    Joined: Jun 28, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 3
    This was a fucked up situation...did anyone actually get charged for genocide in that situation...like a top ranking official or something....not everyday someone gets charged for genocide
  11. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    here's what happend
    (please correct if I'm wrong)

    The Tutsi's were given more power by the europeans and had better acess to jobs and politics than the Hutus. Well the Hutus were really pissed about this and then their leader's plane was shot down. They blamed the Tutsis and started killing like mad. Many Tutsis fled the country but returned shortly after and chased out the Hutus into the Congo. They invaded the Congo looking for 'genocidiers' and killed something like 100,000 Hutus that had fled (either because they were killers, or just afraid for their life).

    Now the big thing is that peopel say the UN could have steped in much sooner, perferably before the Tutsis launched their counter attack. Well some peoplething they could have got in before the Hutus launched the initial attacks.

    Even the local radio stations were calling for blood in the streets, there was no law or order.

    Scary that such medievel shit happened only 10 years ago.

    Luckily.. now both ethnic groups are at peace.
  12. 2 blaazed

    2 blaazed New Jack

    Joined: Jun 28, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 3
    In April 1994, shortly after concluding peace negotiations with the RPF that called for UN peacekeeping forces to be stationed in Rwanda, President Habyarimana and Burundian president Cyprien Ntaryamira were killed when their plane was shot down near Kigali. Responsibility for the attack has not been established. Habyarimana’s death provoked a wave of ethnic violence, prompting UN Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali to accuse the Hutu-dominated Rwandan Army of genocide against the Tutsi. At the height of the violence, the UN forces, lacking a mandate to protect civilians, abandoned Kigali. Over the next few months, it is estimated that between 500,000 and 1 million Rwandans, mostly Tutsi, were massacred. The RPF army pushed toward Kigali, and a civil war ensued. In June the French government sent 2,500 troops to Rwanda to establish a safe area in the southwestern part of the country. But attempts to mediate a cease-fire failed as the RPF mounted a successful final assault.

    After capturing the capital of Kigali, RPF troops began to drive the Rwandan Army and Hutu civilians northwest, toward the Rwanda-Zaire border. Retaliatory violence by Tutsi claimed several thousand lives, including that of the Roman Catholic archbishop of Kigali. By mid-July, an estimated 1.2 million Rwandans had fled the advancing RPF army across the border and into Zaire, forming enormous refugee camps around the city of Goma. By early August, an estimated one-quarter of the prewar population of Rwanda had either died or fled the country. International relief efforts were mobilized to care for the refugees, but available supplies were inadequate and outbreaks of disease were widespread. In the midst of the squalor of the camps, more than 20,000 refugees died in a cholera epidemic.

    encarta is smart
  13. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    yeah... I was close.

    [i]"Boutros Boutros-Ghali"[/i]
  14. Kr430n5_666

    Kr430n5_666 Banned

    Joined: Oct 6, 2004 Messages: 19,229 Likes Received: 30