!@#$% Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/di...hes/050811.html ...... Krulwich: But, wait. Didn't I read somewhere that global warming does not cause an increased number of hurricanes? Lehrer: I was just about to say if you'd let me. Yes, you're right. Global warming doesn't cause a greater number of hurricanes, according to a paper published in Nature last week. Global warming does seem to have caused worse hurricanes. Krulwich: Worse as in "badder?" Lehrer: Exactly. Bigger, deadlier hurricanes with stronger winds and more rain. Krulwich: Why? Lehrer: Because warmer oceans produce more intense hurricanes. Krulwich: But are the oceans getting warmer? Lehrer: Yes, 'cause— Krulwich: —cause I'm just wondering: The Earth is getting warmer, that's an indisputable fact, which is causing glaciers to melt, another indisputable fact. Now, wouldn't all those melting glaciers actually cool the ocean down? The way I imagine it, it would be like putting an ice cube in a glass of water. Lehrer: You're forgetting one thing. The oceans of the Earth are enormous. Glaciers are big, but they can't be expected to cool all that saltwater. To modify your metaphor, it's actually like putting an ice cube in an Olympic-sized swimming pool. Krulwich: So perhaps my metaphor was a bit off. But I still don't understand how global warming leads to deadlier hurricanes. Spell it out for me. Lehrer: It's actually a two-stage process. Warmer air, which is caused by global warming, leads directly to warmer surface temperatures in the ocean. And when the surface temperatures of the ocean get warmer, hurricanes get worse. More water evaporates, and the swirling storms contain more energy. Krulwich: Now that you mention it, the ocean is more swimmable this year. It's actually lovely. Lehrer: That may be, but for those living in hurricane-prone regions, the warmer temperatures in the Atlantic Ocean in general and the Caribbean basin in particular come as bad, bad news. For example, this year marked the first time on record that the Atlantic spawned four named storms by early July. This year also saw the earliest category 4 storm ever. Krulwich: But come on. We're talking about the weather here. A butterfly flaps its wings in Tokyo and we get a hurricane in Florida. Weather is chaos. My local TV stations can't even predict when a thunderstorm is going to arrive, or whether tomorrow will be 85 or 90 degrees. So how can a single measurement—like ocean temperature—predict the strength of hurricanes? Lehrer: Not all scientists think it can. In fact, some scientists don't even think hurricanes are getting deadlier. The most active hurricane season on record is still 1933, which was back when we thought the world was getting colder. The conventional model of hurricanes doesn't see global warming having an impact on hurricane strength or density until the 2050s. Krulwich: So why is this scientist—what's his name by the way? Lehrer: His name is Kerry Emanuel, of MIT. Krulwich: Why is he convinced things are getting nastier? Lehrer: Well, rather than just rely on mathematical predictions of the future, which when it comes to the weather are notoriously unreliable, Emanuel has gone back to the past. He has collected data on storms from as far back as the 1850s. And while some scientists dispute his statistical methods, his general conclusion is that storm power has increased by 50 percent since the 1970s. Krulwich: Fifty percent! Lehrer: Yup. Krulwich: What does that mean? Fifty percent stronger winds? Fifty percent more rain? Fifty percent what? Lehrer: According to Dr. Emanuel, roughly half the increase he observed in his hurricane statistics is because storms have been lasting longer, and half because their peak wind speeds have been increasing. So to answer your question, storms are just getting 50 percent worse, in every way. This could be the first tangible consequence for the American public of global warming. Krulwich: You sure know how to spoil a late summer evening. GOOD LUCK TEXAS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadawhat Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I bet you that FEMA is a little more prepared this time and GW wil be on the ground shortly after its safe. its is G.dubs state after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Haha, good luck to the coastal towns in Texas.... I'm in Dallas, it's just going to rain alot this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slave_one Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 blame the homosexuals for living in sin and the colored folk for allowing themselves to wallow in their poverty...repent now and maybe god will spare you! i can hear the media circus coming. but seriously, be careful. i'm just here waiting for the big earthquake in southern cali to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGS156 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by nomadawhat@Sep 21 2005, 03:46 PM I bet you that FEMA is a little more prepared this time and GW wil be on the ground shortly after its safe. its is G.dubs state after all. Quoted post lets hope so :shook: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I hope it hits Bush in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 yeah evacuation routes are being pan out nicely Mayor White is actually doing a decent job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Hmmm, you mean when they KNOW it's gonna be a big one they plan for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 In Texas they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I bet he cares about black people this time. Actually he probably won't.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffKid Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 i dont really care for texas...so fuck it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by TuffKid@Sep 21 2005, 02:18 PM i dont really care for texas...so fuck it Quoted post That's cool, because you know what, I don't really care for wherever you're from.... little nigga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by TuffKid@Sep 21 2005, 03:18 PM i dont really care for texas...so fuck it Quoted post Best response. This really is shaping up to be quite a year for the gulf coast. Wheeeeeeee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isor357 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by TuffKid@Sep 21 2005, 03:18 PM i dont really care for texas...so fuck it Quoted post so wheres dubyas criblet? hopefully not in the path of destruction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Butterflies. Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by TuffKid@Sep 21 2005, 03:18 PM i dont really care for texas...so fuck it Quoted post there is a particular someone that i wouldn't mind going down. hopefully their stupid enough to take a swim. :shook: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Just made Cat 5, like ethernet. THANK GOD GLOBAL WARMING ISN'T HAPPENING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by TuffKid@Sep 21 2005, 08:18 PM i dont really care for texas...so fuck it Quoted post for real fuck your planet x bullshit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Wrong Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 We're gonna get rocked... like a.... like a... HURRICANE. ****** Seriously though. Houston, we have a problem. WERE FUCKED. I guess, were supposed to be going to San Antone this weekend. At first it was something to kid about in school but now shits getting serious. I kinda wanna stay, am I stupid for saying that? One thing though, is that I know the sherwin williams shops will be vacant. Shit crazy right now, I've been saying this for like the past 3 fuckin weeks. *dude, enough with the embed. For those of us checking 12oz at work, it sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 San Antonio is a bad idea head to dallas. FUCK! my family might ride it out. if not we're bailing to dallas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Wrong Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 you serious? san antone = bad? i thought it was gonna start turning and head north once it hits the shore or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 SHIT! im all confused now let me check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I've got enough room for maybe 2 people if need be. Fatalist and Pfftt? If you all need a place to go in Dallas, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 THANKS Dhabz! but its taking 12hours just to reach huntsville. i'll holla if i ever make it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas, and god makes hurricanes because he hates queers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gren1 bnc Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 why straight to "rita"? i thought that tornado names went in alphabetical order, alternating between boys and girls names.....someone help out here please. surely it should be either a boys name beggining with K or L. HELP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoi1 system Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 STAY SAFE! EVERYONE AROUND THE COAST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Butterflies. Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by fatalist@Sep 21 2005, 04:46 PM THANKS Dhabz! but its taking 12hours just to reach huntsville. i'll holla if i ever make it Quoted post huntsville? i got folks out there? well i guess that's not as bad as logon. damn. i should be studying. said to people in path of hurricane: shouldn't you be headed somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by gren1 bnc@Sep 21 2005, 04:59 PM why straight to "rita"? i thought that tornado names went in alphabetical order, alternating between boys and girls names.....someone help out here please. surely it should be either a boys name beggining with K or L. HELP! Quoted post 2005 Hurricane and Tropical Storm Names Arlene Bret Cindy Dennis Emily Franklin Gert Harvey Irene Jose Katrina Lee Maria Nate Ophelia Philippe Rita Stan Tammy Vince Wilma These are given as soon as a tropical storm is formed. Most don't even reach land and therefore are pretty much ignored by the news. But yeah, all the letters between K and R have passed already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Butterflies. Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 the music is great. good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 FUCKING T-MOBILE OUR FUCKING SERVICE IS OUT! WTF? JUST LOOKING AT EVERYONE EVACUATING ON MY STREET IS FUCKING CRAZY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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