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Rita Roars In

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by !@#$%, Sep 21, 2005.

  1. !@#$%

    !@#$% Moderator Crew

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    Rita Roars In

    Discussion started by !@#$% - Sep 21, 2005

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    Krulwich: But, wait. Didn't I read somewhere that global warming does not cause an increased number of hurricanes?

    Lehrer: I was just about to say if you'd let me. Yes, you're right. Global warming doesn't cause a greater number of hurricanes, according to a paper published in Nature last week. Global warming does seem to have caused worse hurricanes.

    Krulwich: Worse as in "badder?"

    Lehrer: Exactly. Bigger, deadlier hurricanes with stronger winds and more rain.

    Krulwich: Why?

    Lehrer: Because warmer oceans produce more intense hurricanes.

    Krulwich: But are the oceans getting warmer?

    Lehrer: Yes, 'cause—

    Krulwich: —cause I'm just wondering: The Earth is getting warmer, that's an indisputable fact, which is causing glaciers to melt, another indisputable fact. Now, wouldn't all those melting glaciers actually cool the ocean down? The way I imagine it, it would be like putting an ice cube in a glass of water.

    Lehrer: You're forgetting one thing. The oceans of the Earth are enormous. Glaciers are big, but they can't be expected to cool all that saltwater. To modify your metaphor, it's actually like putting an ice cube in an Olympic-sized swimming pool.

    Krulwich: So perhaps my metaphor was a bit off. But I still don't understand how global warming leads to deadlier hurricanes. Spell it out for me.

    Lehrer: It's actually a two-stage process. Warmer air, which is caused by global warming, leads directly to warmer surface temperatures in the ocean. And when the surface temperatures of the ocean get warmer, hurricanes get worse. More water evaporates, and the swirling storms contain more energy.

    Krulwich: Now that you mention it, the ocean is more swimmable this year. It's actually lovely.

    Lehrer: That may be, but for those living in hurricane-prone regions, the warmer temperatures in the Atlantic Ocean in general and the Caribbean basin in particular come as bad, bad news. For example, this year marked the first time on record that the Atlantic spawned four named storms by early July. This year also saw the earliest category 4 storm ever.

    Krulwich: But come on. We're talking about the weather here. A butterfly flaps its wings in Tokyo and we get a hurricane in Florida. Weather is chaos. My local TV stations can't even predict when a thunderstorm is going to arrive, or whether tomorrow will be 85 or 90 degrees. So how can a single measurement—like ocean temperature—predict the strength of hurricanes?

    Lehrer: Not all scientists think it can. In fact, some scientists don't even think hurricanes are getting deadlier. The most active hurricane season on record is still 1933, which was back when we thought the world was getting colder. The conventional model of hurricanes doesn't see global warming having an impact on hurricane strength or density until the 2050s.

    Krulwich: So why is this scientist—what's his name by the way?

    Lehrer: His name is Kerry Emanuel, of MIT.

    Krulwich: Why is he convinced things are getting nastier?

    Lehrer: Well, rather than just rely on mathematical predictions of the future, which when it comes to the weather are notoriously unreliable, Emanuel has gone back to the past. He has collected data on storms from as far back as the 1850s. And while some scientists dispute his statistical methods, his general conclusion is that storm power has increased by 50 percent since the 1970s.

    Krulwich: Fifty percent!

    Lehrer: Yup.

    Krulwich: What does that mean? Fifty percent stronger winds? Fifty percent more rain? Fifty percent what?

    Lehrer: According to Dr. Emanuel, roughly half the increase he observed in his hurricane statistics is because storms have been lasting longer, and half because their peak wind speeds have been increasing. So to answer your question, storms are just getting 50 percent worse, in every way. This could be the first tangible consequence for the American public of global warming.

    Krulwich: You sure know how to spoil a late summer evening.



    GOOD LUCK TEXAS!!
     
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    nomadawhat - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    I bet you that FEMA is a little more prepared this time and GW wil be on the ground shortly after its safe.

    its is G.dubs state after all.
     
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    Dirty_habiT - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    Haha, good luck to the coastal towns in Texas.... I'm in Dallas, it's just going to rain alot this weekend.
     
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    slave_one - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    blame the homosexuals for living in sin and the colored folk for allowing themselves to wallow in their poverty...repent now and maybe god will spare you!

    i can hear the media circus coming.

    but seriously, be careful. i'm just here waiting for the big earthquake in southern cali to hit.
     
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    MAGS156 - Replied Sep 21, 2005


    lets hope so :shook:
     
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    Biggus Dickus - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    I hope it hits Bush in the face.
     
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    fatalist - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    yeah evacuation routes are being pan out nicely Mayor White is actually doing a decent job!
     
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    Dirty_habiT - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    Hmmm, you mean when they KNOW it's gonna be a big one they plan for it?
     
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    Biggus Dickus - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    In Texas they do.
     
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    Dr. Dazzle - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    I bet he cares about black people this time.

    Actually he probably won't....
     
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    TuffKid - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    i dont really care for texas...so fuck it
     
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    Dirty_habiT - Replied Sep 21, 2005


    That's cool, because you know what, I don't really care for wherever you're from....



    little nigga.
     
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    Tyler Durden - Replied Sep 21, 2005



    Best response.

    This really is shaping up to be quite a year for the gulf coast. Wheeeeeeee.
     
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    isor357 - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    so wheres dubyas criblet? hopefully not in the path of destruction
     
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    Killing Butterflies. - Replied Sep 21, 2005

    there is a particular someone that i wouldn't mind going down. hopefully their stupid enough to take a swim.
    :shook:
     
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