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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by DEFTRON, Feb 12, 2006.


    DEFTRON New Jack

    Joined: Feb 12, 2006 Messages: 4 Likes Received: 0
    one of the greatest producers of all time
  2. Sr.Gomez

    Sr.Gomez Junior Member

    Joined: Oct 2, 2003 Messages: 217 Likes Received: 0
    Hip-hop producer Jay Dee dead at 32

    February 10, 2006

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    J Dilla (Jay Dee) died Friday in Los Angeles. (Roger Erickson/Stones Throw Records)

    Hip-hop MC and producer Jay Dee (also known as J Dilla), a founding member of the Detroit rap outfit Slum Village, died Friday morning of kidney failure at his home in Los Angeles, officials at his record label said Friday evening.

    Born James Yancey, he was a nationally influential producer and a champion of Detroit’s urban music scene. When hip-hop was largely being dominated by the East and West coasts, he put a distinct Detroit sound on many national acts.

    He celebrated his 32nd birthday Tuesday with a new album release, “Donuts.�

    “Jay Dee was the man with the beats,� said Mark Hicks, who has been on the Detroit hip-hop scene since the early 1990s and is a former manager of the group D12. Hicks got the word that Jay Dee died from Detroit rapper Proof, who sent him a message via his Blackberry.

    “I remember when he was selling beats back in ’95, ’96 for like 100 or 200 bucks,� Hicks said. Beats are the instrumental tracks that form the backbone of hip-hop music.

    “Everybody went to him. He was selective. Even back then, you could see him being a producer in the long run just on how he made the music He took the artists and said, ‘This is how you should lyrically say this.’ He was a prodigy.� If you saw him in the studio, it was like he was the man.�

    Guided by an encyclopedic ear and a jazz musician’s touch, he molded a signature style that blended hip-hop street bounce with a progressive flair. Live instruments were digitally processed into strange new tones, and vintage soul samples mixed with obscure rock records, with his own warm synthesizer lines layered on top.

    “He invented the sound of Detroit hip-hop,� said Waverly Alford, the Detroit rapper known as King Gordy. “He was Detroit hip-hop.�

    Jay Dee worked with artists like A Tribe Called Quest, Common, Erykah Badu, D’Angelo and Janet Jackson. Even so, he retained a distinct underground attitude.

    He recorded in Detroit, Los Angeles and New York.

    In a statement, Peter Adarkwah, founder of BBE Records, said he was deeply saddened to learn of his death. “Jay was one of my favorite hip-hop producers of all time. His passion for music was a rare thing amongst people in the music industry. His music and presence will be sorely missed for many years to come.�

    BBE was to release Jay Dee’s “The Shining� a follow-up to 2001’s “Welcome To Detroit� in June of this year.

    “It’s a hell of a loss,� said Wayne Washington, who raps under the name Wayneeack X. “He was talented with a capital T. His sound was hard, but there was feeling behind it. It had your head knocking, but it made you think too.�

    Jay Dee rarely gave interviews, preferring to stay out of the spotlight. The music community knew, however, that he had health problems. Last year in an interview with the hip-hop magazine XXL, he denied reports that he had been in a coma, but said he spent two months in a hospital’s ICU “with all types of tubes.�

    He told the magazine, “I went overseas for two weeks and was eating all this crazy ... food. As soon as I got back, I had the flu or something, and I had to check myself into the hospital.� He said the doctors discovered that, “I had a ruptured kidney and was malnourished from not eating the right kind of food. It was real simple, but it ended with me being in the hospital.�

    Always the producer, he had a friend bring him a sound system and some vinyl so he could make beats in the hospital.

    Denaun Porter, a sought-after producer in his own right, has said that Jay Dee influenced him to pursue his career. Like others who would go on to become members of Detroit’s hip-hop elite, Porter was hanging out in the mid-1990s at the Hip Hop Shop. The clothing store on Detroit’s west side hosted open mic shows and became an epicenter of the city’s emerging hip-hop scene.

    Porter said it wasn’t until 1996 that he got serious about making music for a living. That’s when he saw Jay Dee come to the shop in a money green Jaguar. “I never knew anybody that wasn’t a drug dealer drive a car like that,� Porter said. “I liked that life a little more.�

    Jay Dee Dee’s musical production came from humble beginnings. He started humbly, making beats on a tape deck. In 1992, Amp Fiddler taught him how to work an MPC-60, an electronic drum machine commonly used in R&B and hip-hop music.

    Around 1988, Jay Dee formed Slum Village with Baatin and T3, friends from Pershing High School. Even though he left the group after their first national album, (“Fantastic Vol. 2,� released in 2000), they remained friends and he even produced later tracks for Slum Village.

    The group now consists of rappers Elzhi and T3. Both are out of the country, and couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.

    "Slum Village, man, they were doing their thing,’’ said Terry Scott of Tonya’s Music, a mom-and-pop shop on Detroit’s east side. “He was a pretty hot producer here in Detroit, the first big thing to come out of Detroit as far as producers.

    “He was very young. I met him a couple of times. He came in the shop. For a brother like that to die at a young age, that’s sad. This is a loss to Detroit.�

    Brian (B.Kyle) Atkins, a longtime documentarian of the hip-hop group the Roots, reported on the Stones Throw Records Web site that a memorial service will be Tuesday in Los Angeles. A Detroit service may be scheduled later.
  3. neater

    neater Junior Member

    Joined: May 17, 2005 Messages: 122 Likes Received: 0
    his music will live on
  4. isor357

    isor357 Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 8, 2004 Messages: 2,491 Likes Received: 3
    one of the best shows i ever seen. Probably 6 years ago at st andrews. During the firewords
  5. mal

    mal New Jack

    Joined: May 8, 2004 Messages: 56 Likes Received: 0
    slum village
  6. e-lo

    e-lo New Jack

    Joined: Dec 6, 2003 Messages: 4 Likes Received: 0
    R.I.P. J Dilla.
  7. LoveKRS

    LoveKRS Junior Member

    Joined: May 29, 2004 Messages: 209 Likes Received: 0
    Free J Dilla tribute mix here:
    Broke B-Boys
    There are more around as well if you search...

    J Dilla R.I.P. Peace to all his family and crew...
  8. karma

    karma Junior Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2006 Messages: 149 Likes Received: 0
    RIP,he produced running for the pharacyde,one of my all time favourites!
  9. filthyfingers

    filthyfingers New Jack

    Joined: Feb 15, 2006 Messages: 40 Likes Received: 0
  10. karma

    karma Junior Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2006 Messages: 149 Likes Received: 0
    nice pictures im using the top one for my msn pic atm!!
  11. stringfellow

    stringfellow Member

    Joined: Oct 25, 2003 Messages: 424 Likes Received: 0
    shiiiit im really gutted,
    first harold hunter now j dilla, losing too many legends

  12. leftandleaving

    leftandleaving Junior Member

    Joined: Feb 17, 2005 Messages: 173 Likes Received: 0
    Gone but never to be forgotten. A big loss for the whole scene.
  13. oddio1

    oddio1 Senior Member

    Joined: May 28, 2004 Messages: 2,442 Likes Received: 38
    if you think you dont know his work... think again..

    Artist Titles (As Producer and/or MC):

    1st Down - No Place To Go 12" single 1993

    1st Down - A Day Wit The Homiez 12" Single 1995 (Pay Day

    Slum Village - Fan-Tas-Tic 12" single 1996

    Slum Village - Fan-Tas-Tic (Vol. 1) CD/LP 1996 (Donut
    Boy Recordings) 1997 (Sudden Impact)

    Slum Village - We Be Down 12" single 1997 (Sudden

    Jay Dee - Jay Dee Unreleased (Remixes) 12" EP 1997
    (House Shoes Records)

    Slum Village - Somethin' For The People, All
    I Do (Remix) from "All I Do" 12" single 1997 (WB)

    Slum Village - Fantastic Vol. 2 CD/LP 2000 (Goodvibe)
    2002 (Capitol)

    J-88 - Look Of Love (Remix) 12" single 1999 (Groove

    J-88 - Best Kept Secret 12" EP 2000 (Groove Attack)

    Jay Dee - Fuck The Police/Move, feat. Frank N Dank 12"
    single 2001 (Up Above)

    Jay Dee feat. Frank-N-Dank - Pause 12" single 2001

    Jay Dee - Welcome 2 Detroit CD/LP 2001 (BBE)

    1st Down - A Day Wit The Homiez CD 2002 (RonnieCash.com)

    Jay Dee - Instrumental Series Vol 1 12" EP 2002

    Jay Dee feat. Frank N Dank - Take Dem Clothes Off/Off Ya Chest
    12" single 2002 (ABB)

    Jaylib - The Message from Stones
    Throw Summer 2002 12" EP (Stones Throw)

    Jay Dee -Instrumental Series Vol.2: Vintage 2003 CD/LP

    Jay Dee - Ruff Draft 12" EP 2003 (Mummy/Groove Attack)

    Jaylib - The Red/The Official
    12" single 2003 (Stones Throw)

    Jaylib - Champion Sound/Strip Club
    12" single 2003 (Stones Throw)

    Jaylib - Champion Sound
    CD/LP 2003, and Champion Sound Instrumentals
    LP 2004 (Stones Throw)

    Jaylib - Raw Addict/Ice
    12" single 2003 (Stones Throw)

    Jaylib - McNasty Filth/Pillz
    12"/CD single 2004 (Stones Throw)

    Jaylib - Blaze Up, The Mission (Remix)
    from Stones Throw 101 Mix CD 2004
    (Stones Throw)

    Jaylib - Popshit from Stones
    Throw 100 12" EP 2004 (Stones Throw)

    J Dilla - Welcome 2 Detroit Instrumentals CD/LP 2005

    J Dilla - Donuts: The EP 12" EP 2005 (Promotional)

    J Dilla - Donuts CD/LP 2006

    MC only:

    Tami Hert - If You Were Mine (Detroit Demolition Mix)
    from "If You Were Mine" 12" single 1997 (550 Music)

    v/a - Fight Club, feat. Dilla, Nottz & Boogie from
    "Best Kept Secret Mix" CD 2003 (Bling47.com)

    Dabrye - Game Over 12" single 2004 (Ghostly International)

    Wale Oyejide - There's A War Going On 12" single
    2004 (Shaman Work)

    Wale Oyejide - There's A War Going On from "One
    Day, Everything Changed" CD/LP 2004 (Shaman Work)

    Slum Village - Reunion from "Detroit Deli"
    CD/LP 2004 (Barak/Capitol)

    Pete Rock - Niggaz Know from "Soul Survivor II"
    CD/LP 2004 (Rapster /BBE)

    v/a - Do Your Thang, Stupid from "BR
    Gunna Presents Dirty District Vol. 2" CD 2004 (Barak)

    Phat Kat - Door from "The Undeniable LP" (New
    Version) CD/LP 2004 (Barak)

    Lawless Element - Love (feat. Jay Dilla) 2005

    Platinum Pied Pipers - Act Like You Know feat J Dilla
    12" single 2005 (Ubiquity)

    Platinum Pied Pipers - Shotgun, Act Like You
    Know from Triple P CD/LP 2005 (Ubiquity)

    Sa-Ra - Thrilla feat. J Dilla 12" single 2005 (Sound
    in Color)

    Diamond - We Gangstas from Diamond Mine CD 2005

    Platinum Pied Pipers - Shotgun (Remix) from 12"
    single 2005 (Ubiquity)

    Production Credits (by year):


    Da Enna C - NOW from "Throw Ya Hands
    In Da Air" 12" single 1994 (Up Top)

    Little Indian - One Little Indian 12" single 1995

    Poe - Fingertips from "Hello" CD/LP 1995 (WEA
    / Atlantic)


    5-Elementz - Whutchawant, Feed Back,
    Rockshows, Party Groove, Janet Jacme,
    E.G.O., Don't Stop, Searchin
    from "The Album Time Forgot" cassette 1996 (That Was Entertainment)

    A Tribe Called Quest - 1nce Again, Get A Hold,
    Keeping It Moving, Stressed Out, Word
    Play from "Beat, Rhymes, & Life" CD/LP 1996 (Jive

    Busta Rhymes - Keep It Movin', Still Shinin'
    from "The Coming" CD/LP 1996 (Elektra)

    Busta Rhymes - Woo-Hah!! (Jay-Dee Bounce Remix), Woo-Hah!!
    (Jay-Dee Other Shit Remix) 12" single 1996 (Elektra)

    Busta Rhymes - It's a Party (Ummah Remix), Ill Vibe (Ummah
    Remix) 12" single 1996 (Elektra)

    De La Soul - Stakes Is High from "Stakes Is High"
    CD/LP 1996 (Tommy Boy)

    De La Soul - Stakes Is High (Remix) from Itzsoweezee
    12" single 1996 (Tommy Boy)

    Mad Skillz - It's Going Down, The Jam
    from "From Where???" 1996 (Big Beat)

    Kieth Murray - The Rhyme (Remix), Dangerous Ground from
    "Enigma" 1996 (Jive)

    Natives Of Da Underground - Pack Da Hous/Brotha's Juss Don't Know/Whatcha
    Gonna Do? 12" single 1996 (ALR)

    Phife Dawg - Game Day from "NFL Jams" 1996

    Proof - Da Science from "Detroit Hip Hop Volume
    1" 1996 Modern Tribe

    Proof - Vibe Session from "Anywhere" 12"
    single 1996 (Hip Hop Shop)

    Tha Pharcyde - Runnin', Bullshit, Splatittorium,
    Somethin' That Means Somethin', Drop,
    Y? from "Labcabincalifornia" CD/LP 1996 (Delicious


    5-Elementz - Sun Flower from "Yester Years"
    12" EP 1997 (That Was Entertainment)

    A Tribe Called Quest - Get A Hold, Mardi Gras At Midnight
    from "Jam" EP 1997 (Jive Records)

    Brand New Heavies - Sometimes (Ummah Remix) from "Sometimes"
    12" single 1997 (Delicious Vinyl)

    Busta Rhymes - So Hardcore from "When Disaster Strikes"
    CD/LP 1997 (Elektra)

    Crustation - Purple (ATCQ Edit) 12" single 1997

    Janet Jackson - Got Til It's Gone (Ummah Jay Dee Revenge Mix)
    12" single 1997 (Virgin)

    T Da Pimp - Why You Lookin Hard?/We Knowwe Rockit 12"
    single 1997 (Penmp)

    Tha Pharcyde - She Said (Remix) 12" single 1997
    (Delicious Vinyl)

    Tha Pharcyde - Runnin (Remix), Y? (Remix) from
    "Drop" 12" single 1997 (Delicious Vinyl)

    Truz - True Dawgs/Routes To Hell 12" single 1997
    (Ad Fam)


    A Tribe Called Quest - 4 Moms, Against The World,
    Busta's Lament, Da Booty, Find
    A Way, His Name Is Mutty Ranks, Start
    It Up, Steppin' It Up from "The Love Movement"
    CD/LP 1998 (Jive Records)

    A Tribe Called Quest - That Shit from "Funkmaster
    Flex Vol. 3" 1998 (Loud Records)

    Bizarre - Butterfly from Attack of the Wierdos 12"
    EP 1998 (Federation)

    Mood - Secrets Of The Sand (Remix) from "Snake Backs"
    12" single 1998 (Blunt)

    N'Dea Davenport - Bullshittin (Remix) from "N'Dea
    Davenport" CD/LP 1998 (V2)


    5 Ela - You Ain't Fresh, Ain't No Love
    from 5-E Pt. 3 1999 (That Was Entertainment)

    Brand New Heavies - Saturday Night (Jay Dee Remix) from
    "Saturday Night" 12" single 1999 (Delicious Vinyl)

    Heavy D - Listen from "Heavy" CD/LP 1999 (Universal)

    Macy Gray - I Try (Remix) 12" single 1999 (Epic)

    Nine Yards - Always Find A Way (Remix) 12" single
    1999 (Virgin)

    Phat Kat - Dedication To The Suckers 12" single
    1999 (House Shoes Recordings)

    Phife Dawg - Bend Ova/Thought U Wuz Nic 12" single 1999
    (Groove Attack)

    Que D - Underestimated, Supa Shit, Kilo,
    Cash Flow, Michelle, Rock Box,
    Don't Stop from "Quite Delicious" cassette
    1999 and "Que D Limited Edition" CD 2003 (Royal Flyness)

    Q-Tip - 11 tracks from "Amplified" CD/LP 1999

    The Roots - Dynamite from Things Fall Apart CD/LP 1999

    The Roots - New Year's @ Jay Dee's from "You Got
    Me" CD single 1999 (MCA)

    Zooco - Butterfly from "Glow-Mellow-Flow" CD/LP
    1999? (Columbia Japan)


    Black Star - Little Brother from "The Hurricane
    (Soundtrack)" CD/LP 2000 (MCA)

    Brand New Heavies - Sometimes (Remix), Saturday
    Night (Remix) from "Trunk Funk Classics" CD/LP 2000
    (Delicious Vinyl)

    Busta Rhymes - Enjoy Da Ride, Live It Up,
    Show Me What You Got from "Anarchy" CD/LP 2000

    Common - 10 tracks from "Like Water For Chocolate"
    CD/LP 2000 (MCA)

    Common - The Light (Remix) from "Bamboozled (Soundtrack)"
    2000 (Motown)

    D'Angelo - various tracks from Voodoo
    CD/LP 2000 (Virgin)

    De La Soul - Thru Ya City from "Art Official Intelligence:
    Mosaic Thump" CD/LP 2000 (Tommy Boy)

    Erykah Badu - Cleva, My Life, Didn't
    Cha Know, Kiss Me On My Neck from "Mama's
    Gun CD/LP 2000 (Motown)

    Frank N Dank - Me & My Man/Love (A Thing Of The Past)
    12" single 2000 (McNasty)

    Frank N Dank - Everybody Get Up/Give It Up Pt. 2 12"
    single 2000 (McNasty)

    Guru feat. Bilal - Certified from "Guru's Jazzmatazz
    Street Soul" CD/LP 2000 (Virgin)

    Innerzone Orchestra - People Make The World Go Round (J-88 Mix)
    - 12" single 2000 (Planet E)

    Phife Dawg - Bend Ova, 4 Horseman from
    "Ventilation: Da LP" CD/LP 2000 (Groove Attack)

    Phife Dawg - Ya Heard Me from "Definition of Ill
    Compilation" 2000 bootleg

    Royce Da 5'9" - Let's Grow from "Lyricist Lounge
    Volume 2" CD/LP 2000 (Rawkus)

    Spacek - Eve (Remix) 12" single 2000 (Blue)


    Bahamadia- One-4-Teen (Remix) from "Summer Sampler"
    CD 2001 (Goodvibe)

    Bilal - Reminisce from "1st Born Second LP"
    CD/LP 2001 (Interscope)

    Busta Rhymes - Genesis, Make It Hurt
    from "Genesis" CD/LP 2001 (Elektra)

    Chino XL - Don't Say A Word from "I Told You So"
    CD/LP 2001 (Metro Records)

    De La Soul - Peer Pressure (Intro & Outro Monologues
    by Jay Dee) from AOI: Bionix CD/LP 2001 (Tommy Boy)

    Lucy Pearl - Without You (Remix) 12" single 2001

    Mos Def - Can U C The Pride In The Panther? (Remix) 12"
    Single 2001 (Interscope)

    Que D - In Yo Face from "Still Bangin" 12"
    single 2001 (Up Above) and "Que D Limited Edition" CD 2003 (Royal

    Toshi Kubota - Nothin But Your Love (Remix) 12"
    single 2001 (Epic)


    Big Tone - Party Crasher (mixed by Jay Dee) from Party
    Crasher 12" Antidote 2002

    Busta Rhymes - It Ain't Safe No More, What Up,
    Turn Me Up Some from "It Ain't Safe No More..."
    CD/LP 2002 (Elektra)

    Common - various production & instrumental credits
    from "Electric Circus" CD/LP 2002 (MCA)

    DJ Jazzy Jeff - Are You Ready (with Slum Village) from
    "The Magnificent" 12" EP 2002 (BBE)

    Frank N Dank - Push 12" EP 2002 (Mummy / Groove

    Phat Kat - Dedication To The Suckers, Don't Nobody
    Care About Us, Microphone Master, Big
    Booties, World Premier from "Dedication
    To The Suckers" LP/CD 2002 (RonnieCash.com)

    Slum Village - Hoes, Let's, One
    from "Trinity" CD/LP 2002 (Capitol)

    Talib Kweli - Where Do We Go, Stand To The Side
    from "Quality" CD/LP 2002 (Rawkus)


    ASD (Afrob & Samy Deluxe) - Komm Schon from "Wer
    Hatte Das Gedacht?" CD/LP 2003 (Eimsbush)

    ASD (Afrob & Samy Deluxe) - Wenn Ihr Fuhlt... from "Hey
    Du" 12" EP 2003 (Eimsbush)

    Common - Come Close "Remix" (Closer) 12" single
    2003 (MCA)

    De La Soul - Much More/Shoomp 12" single 2003 (AOI)

    Fourtet - As Serious As Your Life (Remix) 12" single
    2003 Domino

    Frank N Dank - 48 Hours CD 2003 (Bootleg)

    Vivian Green - Fanatic (Remix) 12" Single 2003 (Sony)

    Phat Kat - Dedication 2004, Destiny,
    Big Booties from "The Undeniable LP: Detroit Edition"
    CD/LP 2003 Barak Records

    Que D - Supa Shit 12" single 2003 (Royal Flyness)

    Royce Da 5'9" - Life Goes On from "Build &
    Destroy: Lost Sessions Part 1" 2003 (Trouble Records)

    Subtitle - Mark Luv Mixtape Song from "Greatest
    Hi$$" CD 2003 (Marks03 Recordings)

    T-Love - When You're Older, Who Smoked Sunshine,
    Chiquita, Long Way Back from "The
    Long Way Back" 2003 (Pickininny)


    5 Ela - Scenario 2004 from "The EP" 2004 (5

    Amp Fiddler - You Play Me, Waltz Of A Ghetto
    Fly from "Waltz Of A Ghetto Fly" CD/LP 2004 (Genuine/PIAS)

    Amp Fiddler - I Believe In You (Jaylib Mix) CD/12"
    single 2004 (Genuine/PIAS)

    Brother Jack McDuff - Oblighetto (J Dilla Remix) from
    "Blue Note Revisted" CD/LP 2004 (Blue Note)

    De La Soul - Verbal Clap, Much More
    from "Grind Date" CD/LP (Sanctuary)

    DJ Cam - Love Junkee (Remix) 12" single 2003 (Inflamable)
    and "Liquid Hip Hop CD/LP 2004 (Inflamable)

    Elzhi - Days and Nights, Concrete Eyes,
    Love It Here, and Look At My Friends from "Witness
    My Growth" Mix CD 2004 (Libido Speedo)

    Frank-N-Dank - Let's Go, Okay, MCA
    from "Xtended Play" CD/LP 2004 (Needillworks)

    Lawless Element - The Shining 12" single 2004 (RMR/Fat

    Oh No - Move from The
    Disrupt CD/LP 2004, and The Disrupt
    Instrumentals LP 2005 (Stones Throw)

    Proof of D12 - Bring It 2 Me from "I Miss The Hip
    Hop Shop" CD/LP 2004 (Iron Fist)

    Prozack - Leisure Rules from "Death, Taxes, and
    Prozack" CD 2004 (Outofwork Records)

    Slum Village - Do You from "Detroit
    Deli" CD/LP 2004 (Barak/Capitol)


    Common - Love is..., It's Your World (Part 1
    & 2) from "Be" CD/LP and "Be Instrumentals"
    LP 2005 (GOOD Music/Geffen)

    Common - The Movement from "NBA 2K6 - The Tracks"
    CD/LP 2005 (Decon)

    Dwele - Keep On from "Some Kinda" CD/LP 2005

    Dwight Trible & The Life Force Trio - Antiquity from
    "Love Is The Answer" CD/LP 2005 (Ninja Tune)

    MED - Push
    feat. J Dilla 12" single 2005 (Stones Throw)

    MED - Push, So Real from "Push Comes To
    Shove" CD/LP 2005 (Stones Throw)

    Moka Only - One Time from "The Desired Effect"
    CD/LP 2005 (Nettwerk)

    Oh No - Move
    Part 2 feat. J Dilla & Roc C 12" single 2005 (Stones

    Slum Village - Who Are We from "Prequel To A Classic"
    CD 2005 (Barak Records)

    Spacek - Dollar 12" single 2005 (Sound in Color)

    Spacek - Dollar from "Space Shift" CD/LP 2005 (Sound
    in Color)
  14. Evakhian

    Evakhian New Jack

    Joined: Jan 12, 2006 Messages: 23 Likes Received: 0
    Pure gold.

    Made me anxious just before I was about listen to the latest shit he made...knowing it was going to amaze me.

    Plus he made Stakes is high.

  15. !@#$%

    [email protected]#$% Moderator Crew

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 18,517 Likes Received: 623
    damn i didn't know he had passed and i'm even in here a lot.


    this ones not really for the heavens though
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