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Revelation about graffiti

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by artsol, Apr 12, 2002.

  1. artsol

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    Revelation about graffiti

    Discussion started by artsol - Apr 12, 2002

    I think I've figured it out. Since it seems most writers put their names up to get their message out or to showcase their art because they have no other way to bring it to the people , it seems that in a perfect world there would be no graffiti. No evil corporations,insitutions or gov't to rebel against, everyone has what they need and want whether it be a gallery or magazine or whatever.Weird...but until then, I'll remain a nozzleneck.
    So by stopping graf, we help make a better world
    or
    By continuing graf we show our hatred towards the fucked up status quo.
     
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  2. ODW

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    ODW - Replied Apr 12, 2002

    dude, you are a goddamn moron. have u ever even been up in your city? if you know what it was like to see yourself up everywhere you go, or the feeling when u finish a dope character or peice, u sure as fuck wouldnt have this ridiculous notion that graffiti is this movement against corporations. if u hate corporations so much than why do u own a computer? granted im not a fan of big business, but im typing on an HP, at a university, with nikes on. in a perfect world there wouldnt be morons recycling generic ass messages.
    and what the fuck is this about: "by stopping graff we make a better world"?! what the fuck kind of "nozzleneck" are you? graffiti makes this world a better place. it gives streets character, it gives the homeless something to enjoy, its a major creative outlet, etc, etc. shit, u gotta be a fuckin cop. no writer could be this stupid.

    I DECLARE ARTSOL QUEEN OF TOYS.
     
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  3. amorphic

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    amorphic - Replied Apr 12, 2002

    ummmm I don't know what sort of strange drugs you're taking but I do graffiti because it's an adventure and It's fun to put your name on someone else's stuff. :D
     
  4. Ceso One SAF

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    Ceso One SAF - Replied Apr 12, 2002

    i second ODW......
     
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  5. artsol

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    artsol - Replied Apr 12, 2002

    repeat for the ppl with heads so far up their asses their farts are 30 dBs:
    ' it seems that in a perfect world there would be no graffiti'
    graffiti is the weapon of choice for the opressed and rebels.
    In a perfect world no one would be opressed and since everything would be good there would be no NEED to rebel, ergo no graffiti.
    modern graf is a double-edged sword.
    so with the whole stop graf thing : since in a perfect world there would be no graf,wouldn't not writing make the world more perfect?
    or with the continue graf thing:keep writing graf to show the world that I hate blah blah blah,or I was never noticed and somehow hopefully people will wise up and stop and pay attention or stop whatever you're rebelling against.
    gasp...so in our modern sense if it worked...GRAFFITI WOULD BE DESTROYING ITSELF!

    Wow...and I thought everybody in universities were smart, I see SOMEBODY had to blow the dean of admissions.



    Don't hate on circular logic lol
     
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    Ski Mask - Replied Apr 12, 2002

    not everyone does graff because they are rebeling or opressed...some of us just like it. Therefore your argument collapses. In a perfect world people would still paint all over stuff...we just wouldn't get shit on for doing it.
     
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    metallix - Replied Apr 13, 2002

    yeah your argument that graffiti is for rebels and the oppressed does not work. think back to the 60's..why did people write then?
     
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  8. artsol

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    artsol - Replied Apr 13, 2002

    I was waiting until someone brought that up.
    Finally a thought-out rebuttal rather than a waste of everyone's time.
     
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    jedifive nyc - Replied Apr 13, 2002

    ODW well said. graffiti doesnt in anyway free children from sweatshops, or smash coroprations. sounds like artsol is merely in his rebelious 15 year old "i hate the world" stage.
     
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    ODW - Replied Apr 13, 2002

    no shit. this muthafucka is makin our passion look like its some goddamn movement against conformity. look at ces one (fx), clearly one of the most talented writers around, rocks a daily 9-5 and is an average joe. im not saying every writer is like this, although the majority are, but it sure as shit doesnt show much for arugemnt's sake when a modern day innovater is your typical joe shmoe...cuz that is the farthest thing from conformity.
    go do your homework son.
     
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    Fabo 2 - Replied Apr 13, 2002

    How dare you call this a revelation.
     
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    whoami - Replied Apr 13, 2002

    damn I was thinking this would be a thread about dudes who were aztec or egyptian that drew dope shit over that print they did on their walls because they didnt like it.....Like aliens and big words like Bodacious
     
  13. artsol

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    artsol - Replied Apr 14, 2002

    lol
    Aliens?!
     
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    ~KRYLON2~ - Replied Apr 14, 2002

    ^^^^^hahahaha
     
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