fermentor666 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 This is something I read off another board I browse on vintage synthesizers. I'm not a raver but I still feel that this whole thing is fucked up. Everything after this is taken from a post by some dude named "futureworlder". Video footage, also: "This is disgusting. Some of us were aware of the legislature silently passed with The Amber Alert Bill and Patriot Act , but were too late and unable to stop it. It has to be stopped now- i implore you all to get in touch with your local representatives and tell them that this is unacceptable behavior anywhere especially here in AMERICA. Please repost this if you care about basic human rights and feel that this is wrong. This happened in Utah please read below. Here is the video footage: http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html Knick of Evol intent puts the night's events into his own words:: Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops. So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well... At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off. The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky. No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene. Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth.. - One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH. - The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage. - The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here right now." Now.. let's get the facts straight here. This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession. Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!! Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con's with an agenda. This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary? This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULLSHIT! The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved. I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work. the video with sound they didnt want you to see http://slcdnb.com/versus.mov ----------------- Bulletin Message ----------------- From: Joanna aka Syze Date: Aug 21, 2005 11:59 PM UTAH PARTY I WAS PLAYING AT .... SAD Hey everyone, by now most of you know that I was set to perform at the Versus 2 in Salt Lake City Utah last night August 20th 2005. I am mad, sad, and disturbed at what happened. Here is more info and thank you all for your kind words.......please spread this all around and write letters so we can be heard and fight this. Ravers mauled by K-9s, beat up by police, CAMERAS CONFISCATED & DESTROYED, SWAT brandishing ASSAULT RIFLES, women KICK IN THE STOMACH by cops, TEAR GAS dispersed! Make sure to check out Knick's post, linked towards the bottom of this blog. Utah Raves Forum: http://forums.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=19971 My story on Seattle DNB http://www.seattlednb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2840 Knick from Evol Intents story http://www.404audio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1481 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 I guess someone made a thread on this already, merge? Or just close/delete it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumy Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 PATRIOT ACT + RFID= WAKETHEFUCKUP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I sapose some idiot is gonna come on here as usual and try and tell us that we don't actually live in a fascist police state and how lucky we are to live in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damngraffitivandal Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 First off, this is shitty beyond belief. But, a law was passed two years ago that basically allowed this, in principle. Link to info about the "RAVE Act": http://www.emdef.org/index.html This law sucks, but does not allow the blatant use of force and disregard for human rights and civil liberties displayed by the great national gaurd of Utah, 'protecting you from the constitution whenever possible'. I dunno. Write your congressmen. Bomb harder. peace, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I love how all the pigs have to do is pass a law and all of a sudden it's ok. What if the law said it's alright for the Natianal Guard to open fire and execute all the ravers? Is everyone gonna just bitch and moan for a day or two then say "oh well, it's the law. nothing anyone can do about it"? :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 This doesn't seem like a crossfire thread really. I'll fix that. IN THE NAME OF ALLAH THIS WAS NOT SUPPORTED, AHKEE TABULLI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOx Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Originally posted by SF1@Aug 23 2005, 04:26 AM I love how all the pigs have to do is pass a law and all of a sudden it's ok. What if the law said it's alright for the Natianal Guard to open fire and execute all the ravers? Is everyone gonna just bitch and moan for a day or two then say "oh well, it's the law. nothing anyone can do about it"? :rolleyes: Quoted post Definately not the quickest of cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 ...i was about to write some tirade about this..but then just as i was about to type...i heard one of the apartment tennants turn on their viper alarm for their car... i duno possibly i'm going off on a different subject...but where i'm at right now all of the heads that used to be hardcore ravers around here are hurbs now...minus like three people.. oh yeah...booo police booo... i read up on that law a while ago..shit is fucked up and so specific on what type of music verses event...cause you know if kottonmouth kings come into town that concert hall is gona need to be aired out for at least a week afterwards.. and thats probably my last post in crossfire for the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 what can i say but, "revolution time?!" shit's fucked. i could understand the cops shutting down marc ecko's painting event. but this is retarded. we had alot of problems with the cops here doing that "no you don't shit" with the permits..some legal shit got shut the fuck down. but we weren't ever tear gassed. outta control. the u.s. needs to undergo extreme makeover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Slightly off topic but I been to at least 2 houseparties where the cops showed up and litterally robbed the house. Like told everyone to get the fuck out or they're going to jail then proceeded to load up the patty wagons with TVs, stereo equipment, bikes and whatever else they wanted (including boxes full of porn :haha: ). Who you sapose to call when the cops (including a couple leutenents) rob your house? And these werent even roudy parties only one of them even had underage kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Originally posted by WhiteOx@Aug 23 2005, 11:07 AM Definately not the quickest of cats Quoted post That's the second time you said that. Why don't you explain. :clown2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Originally posted by symbols@Aug 23 2005, 12:22 PM what can i say but, "revolution time?!" the u.s. needs to undergo extreme makeover. Quoted post I'll second that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumPuncher Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I was at a 'rave' one (it was in '96 so I think it was actually a rave) in an abandoned factory and we were 'excorted' out by the riot police in full riot gear. It was a very intense experience, and probably more so for the people who were on drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 You wanna see something funny? Run a search on 12oz for the word "sapose". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 LOL ok then how is it spelled? Some dude used to write "Sapose" back in the day in Philly so maybe that's why I thought that's how it's spelled.. :haha: edit--> Ok so it's spelled suppose. got it! My bad I was never the spelling bee champ in school. shoot me! ...Fucking nerds. :rolleyes2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smooth talker Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Well SF1 being that noone was shot its obviously not a police state. hahaha nah im playing man. but come on these people shouldnt of been breaking the law. and not that they were breaking the law by being there tbut hey if they are at a rave they must have dope right right....i mean come on now people if you dont wanna be harrassed then dont leave your house...cover it with duct tape and plastic, move your fam into the basement and practice incest...ahaha...but for reals this is cracking off everywhere..I thinks its really because these parties may be a breeding ground for anarchist ways of living... A 'Freetekno' Party was stopped during the weekend by a series brutal and irrational actions of the Czech Police. Around 6000 people were attacked by the riot cops while having a party. The Highway was blocked and people entering the Czech Republic were turned away at the border, discriminated against on the basis of their looks. Czechtech 2005 is the 12th Annual Freetek Party in the open air. This years, self-organised, event met unusual hostility from the Czech Police. The first soundsystems and visitors gathered, on legally rented land, near the city of Milec, on Friday Morning (29th July). From the early hours the police blocked the exits from the highway, D5, causing an 8 km long traffic jam. Eyewitnesses reported police trying to stop people leaving the highway based on their looks. Around 150 people sat on the road requesting to continue on their way to Milec. After 6 hours, following an ultimatum, at 13:00 the police used water-cannons and heavy force to clear the blocked highway. Abandoned cars were towed away. The police continued to block exits to the highway, as well as several routes around Milec. Official statements from the police said that the legal contract between the owner of the land on which Czechtek 2005 was to take place were invalid. The Czech Minister for Justice, Frantisek Bublan, a member of the social-democratic CSSD, also stated that the contract was invalid and claimed that the owner of the land had revoked it. Later on Friday the contract got to the media, as well as several inteviews with the legal owner of the land. These confimed his support of the event and the validity of the contract. Following his statement, Senator Jaromír Štětina and the Czech Green Party requested that Minister Buban stops the raid against citizens of Czech republic who have not commited any crime by gathering on legaly rented land. Nevertheless, the police continued to block the area without reason. During the night several thousand visitors managed to pass the police lines, leaving cars behind on the road. The police received reinforcements from Pilsen, brought in vans and buses. By Saturday morning, the party had 5000 visitors and around 300 cars that had managed to make it. Music started to play from the soundsystems. A spokesperson from the Czech police claimed that the visitors had damaged neighboring land whend trying to pass their blockade. The landowners filled a legal complaint against the organisers of Czechtek 2005. Citizens of Ă�jezd pod PĹ�imdou, a small town near the event signed a petition and handed it to the Police Commander requesting that the participants be allowed to continue on their way. The streets of the city were filled with cars and people who failed to go through the police street cordons. Police redirected cars coming from the German border in Rozvadov to other border crossings. According to their statistics 105 out of 249 foreigners were turned back at the border on the basis of "coloured old cars, haircuts and tatoos". The D5 Highway was closed on both sides between 128 and 135km. At 16:25 the police requested the participants, now numbering more than 6000, leave the gathering. If they failed to comply the police action would follow. The assault started at 16:30. Around 1000 riot cops using masses of tear gas and trying to push visitors away from the place. The assault was answered by objects being thrown at the police cordon and people shouting "gestapo" at the police. According to eyewitnesses police used water to damage the soundsytems. There are also unconfirmed reports of the use of gum projectiles and mobile phone disrupting frequency-jammers. The Shadow Minister Ivan Langer sharply criticised the police attack saying it was a political decision imposed by the Prime-Minister, Jiří Paroubek (CSSD). Czechtek's weblog published a request for solidarity asking people to join a demonstration in Prague at 19:00 in front of the Ministery of Justice. The police assault ended around 19:20 (before the evening news) with 50 people injured on both sides, police and participants. The organizers of Czechtek 2005 stated that they are going to appeal to European Court for Human Rights in Strassbourg. On Sunday 31st July at 14.00 another demonstration took place in Prague. The number of the people reached 5000, requesting that Minister Buban steps out. The Czech Leage for Human Rights also joined this request, qualifying the police actions as illegal and the means used against the participants as inadequate and brutal. The Prime Minister Paroubek defends the police actions as "adequate". He also mentioned short-to-be-prepared legal changes to the Czech law of assembly, so that "an event like this will not happen again". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Life was alot easier when nobody knew what the fuck raves were huh? Alright who blew up the spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Originally posted by SF1+Aug 23 2005, 10:16 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SF1 - Aug 23 2005, 10:16 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-symbols@Aug 23 2005, 12:22 PM what can i say but, "revolution time?!" the u.s. needs to undergo extreme makeover. Quoted post I'll second that. Quoted post [/b] then do it. if you arent willing to actually follow through with what you say then you dont truly believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Creep Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 prisonplanet.com getthefuckup! infowars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Originally posted by SF1@Aug 22 2005, 08:10 PM I sapose some idiot is gonna come on here as usual and try and tell us that we don't actually live in a fascist police state and how lucky we are to live in America. Quoted post Youll notice that the raid was broken up by local authorities not federal, so your case for us livng in a "fascist police state" is incorrect here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 The National Guard qualify as "local police"? Your an idiot. how much more proof do you need? :umm: :dunce: Why do you always stick up for the cops no matter what? And then you wonder why someone would think that you are a cop??? :haha: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 And what difference would it make if it was the fucking marines or local sheriffs office? It's still the fascist act of a police state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 the Locals and the Feds are totally disconnected from one another, Joe local and Fred Fed never even met ,man!! No sharing of info or cross policing there huh? Feds, Locals, maaaan....totally different agenda....I mean, the Locals, They rock freight trains , Burn that gangee and get JIGGY, SON! psssshhh, Don't come out the lip about the locals bee! thats my nukkas right there son! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Originally posted by SF1@Aug 23 2005, 06:32 PM The National Guard qualify as "local police"? Your an idiot. how much more proof do you need? :umm: :dunce: Why do you always stick up for the cops no matter what? And then you wonder why someone would think that you are a cop??? :haha: Quoted post The national guard do qualify as local authorities as they are at the disposal of the governor of the state. I dont wonder why people think i am a cop. I am a cop. "To protect and serve" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Originally posted by SF1@Aug 23 2005, 06:41 PM And what difference would it make if it was the fucking marines or local sheriffs office? It's still the fascist act of a police state. Quoted post Again, you are free to leave at any time. You know how refugees flee countries in which they are persecuted? You might want to look into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 haha for some reason i can almost hear tyler durden mumble "fucken dirty e-tard hippies" under his breath everytime he comes into crossfire and looks to see that this thread is still on the top of the page.. woo i'm sure glad they arent targetting lsd and shrooms...i'm safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Originally posted by CACashRefund+Aug 24 2005, 02:07 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CACashRefund - Aug 24 2005, 02:07 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-SF1@Aug 23 2005, 06:32 PM The National Guard qualify as "local police"? Your an idiot. how much more proof do you need? :umm: :dunce: Why do you always stick up for the cops no matter what? And then you wonder why someone would think that you are a cop??? :haha: Quoted post The national guard do qualify as local authorities as they are at the disposal of the governor of the state. I dont wonder why people think i am a cop. I am a cop. "To protect and serve" Quoted post [/b] Then the National Guard are the military version of the state police? And what was your point again? :umm: :umm: :umm: :umm: And damn, you look as dumb as you come across on here. :yuck: "to protect and serve" THAT'S A LAUGH! :haha: :haha: Protecting and serving while beating little girls and teargassing pussy ass ravers, and if your EXTRA special we stick a M-16 in your grill and threaten to shoot you for being a RAVER!!! :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 And no, I aint going no where! this is my country and if it comes to a revolution to free my country from douche-bags like you I will actually enjoy shooting your ass! :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Originally posted by iloveboxcars+Aug 23 2005, 04:46 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iloveboxcars - Aug 23 2005, 04:46 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by SF1@Aug 23 2005, 10:16 AM <!--QuoteBegin-symbols@Aug 23 2005, 12:22 PM what can i say but, "revolution time?!" the u.s. needs to undergo extreme makeover. Quoted post I'll second that. Quoted post then do it. if you arent willing to actually follow through with what you say then you dont truly believe it. Quoted post [/b] of course. i'm willing to follow through. i suppose i will start stockipiling weapons. i'm not an idiot, you know, so it'll take some planning. shit like ruby ridge and waco has most definitely taught me the blunt points of anti-government standoffs it isn't like i can just pop a few police in the face and expect anything to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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