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rail cops

Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by drinkxylene, Aug 10, 2003.

  1. drinkxylene

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    rail cops

    Discussion started by drinkxylene - Aug 10, 2003

    whats up everyone-- these questions are for the benchers--

    i recently started visiting yards to flick shit and ive heard a bunch of mixed up stories from my friends about the security at the yards that i just wanted to confirm.

    1. i know its trespassing-- but when i see security on other parts of the tracks i just wave adn they wave back, is it the same at the yard?

    2. what is the penalty for trespassing for a 16 year old?

    3. what are some good excuses that will work if im being questioned?
     
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  2. Swiffer Jet

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    Swiffer Jet - Replied Aug 10, 2003

    you were looking for your dog
     
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  3. Dick Quickwood

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    Dick Quickwood - Replied Aug 10, 2003

    say your a railfan and your just taking pictures
    for tresspassing they usually give you a ticket, and make you pay a small fine
     
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  4. This WaY OUT

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    This WaY OUT - Replied Aug 11, 2003

    say yur hiding behind trains because a crazed serial killer is trying to assasinate you, then once he hears that, he will get very scared and run away because he does not want to be assasinated, then if he sees you a second time say yer hiding from the same guy and that the guy mistook you for a rail cop because he doesn't like them, then the guy will get so scared that if he ever sees you again he will think the killer is around and right away he will hide instead of confronting you.


    damn why is it that everytime i post i am not here. domit
     
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    kido - Replied Aug 11, 2003

    actually thats not too bad of an idea.
     
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    toastone - Replied Aug 11, 2003

    penalties for juveniles vary greatly... you could get a slap on a wrist or spend mad time in your favorite local youth facility until you finish their program... but my guess would be a slap on the wrist, you might not even get charged. as for excuses, althought the lost dog one is probably better, I'd say something along the lines of I'm a bit antisocial and I prefer to walk the tracks because theres less people on them...
     
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  7. drinkxylene

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    drinkxylene - Replied Aug 11, 2003

    is there a set crew for each yard or does the crew change? because i dont want to use the dog excuse and then have to explain myself when they see me in the yard again a month later--

    -- thanx for all the feedback
     
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    otto dix - Replied Aug 11, 2003

    considering where you are from, i know a few people that arent going to like this thread.
     
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    fr8yardjunky - Replied Aug 12, 2003

    there is already a few threads that can give you all the answers you need...
    look before lookin stupid!
     
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  10. drinkxylene

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    drinkxylene - Replied Aug 12, 2003

    yea yea i read em all-- cant delete a thread though so.......
     
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    Bosco - Replied Aug 13, 2003

    Alright security will vary by yard. Intermodal yards have high security, cameras, etc. A small layup will have no security except for maybe a run through by the Bull every now and then. A large classification yard will have Bulls.

    I've been asked to leave a gravel lot overlooking a yard by a Bull who said it was RR property. He also asked a truck mechanic who was sleeping in his truck to leave too. I had my camera/scanner and he was sympathetic but said he had to tell me to leave cuz he told the mechanic to leave.

    After 9/11 security is even more intense. I have a Norfolk Southern video that was issued to all employees after the terrorist attacks telling them to alert the bulls when they see anyone suspicious near the tracks, especially with a camera. I've also had the chance to meet with some Norfolk Southern Bulls at their Atlanta headquarters a year ago for a college paper and these fools mean business. Do not, I repeat do not, take them for a joke! They are sworn police officers! They have K9s, they use infrared, I've heard of some dressing as bums or railworkers as well to decrease crimes on railroad property. Don't think if you get caught be them they will drive you off the property and let you go. I know a guy who was arrested for trespassing, the CSX bull arrested him and took him to Fulton County jail for 3 days, and he was interrogated, and the Supervisor for the yard came in and yelled at him as well, but he was eventually found clear of all charges cuz they were small compared to the other crimes that occur in Atlanta.

    Just know the area, know what vehicles the bulls drive, and stay off the tracks in a busy yard. You may think the bulls are being bitches, but their there to look out for your safety, the RR doesn't want to pay your parents millions of settlement dollars when you get killed on RR property.

    Play it smart, bench from a public spot, or if neccessary "trespass" at a low security area. Always respect RR workers, some are good guys who will talk to you and won't mind that your taking flix.
     
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    taper - Replied Aug 13, 2003

    tresspassing=illegal, 16 or 100 years old still illegal. 2ndly alot of workers dont care, cops on the other hand well they tend to care a bit more than the guy that just wants to leave so he can retire to his house to watch monday night football with a case of coors or budwiser. he can care less. keep a keen eye out for the bulls tho. but id say since your 16 you should just carry a colt 45 on your hip.........i bet its not illegal for you to shoot at them being 16 and all.....:rolleyes: ;)
     
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    drinkxylene - Replied Aug 13, 2003

    ive been told there are different penalties for different ages--- people assume there is a difference in the maturity of a 15 year old and a 16 year old and an 18 year old and 21.... so on and so forth

    the older you get the harder they will come down on you because they think you should know better.
     
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    Mike bibby - Replied Aug 13, 2003

    if you can, RUN. if not, give a fake name that you wont fuck up on spelling out. say you are taking a short cut. I ALLWAYS RUN!!
     
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    Frate_Raper - Replied Aug 14, 2003

    just stay the fuck out if your asking son
     
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