PoutyDuck Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 Recently a long time friend of mine became my new roommate. Unfortunately, he has been convicted of misdemeanor vandalism, and as a result he is on probation and can't posess any graffiti related items such as paint, markers, incriminating photos, and all of the other obvious objects. My question is in regards to how much authority the police have. I'm not a writer, so I don't stress *too* much. I do however have thousands of photos, hundreds of magazines, cans, canvases, etc. that I would hate to have searched and/or confiscated. I have a lock on my bedroom door, my parents own the house, and I have full rights to exert any measures that I deem necessary in regards to denying police access. Can they search my room? My house? Thanks for the advice, -Quack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacytabacy Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 not without a court order, A WARENT and/or A probable cause witch they probably could if your friend lives with you... i learned that shit in us history & govn't... i feel smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnamla Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 since your friend living with you is on probation police can search where he lives (where you live also) pretty much anytime they want so i dont know what to tell you really, but try and keep all the shit at someone elses house or something if you dont want your friend to get in trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¤¤FoRGE²¤¤ Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 this is a good question....but i think if they come and you take responsibility for it youre still fucked just for having that stuff anyway....................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RASTAKINOVER Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 dont sweat it probation officer sometime make home visit but ive never had a probation officer look threw my room they just come and see how your doing if you on house arrest and make sure your home on time if they gave your friend a curfew.ive been on probation many times and still am never had a police officer search my room for no reason they need a warent for thatttt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porque Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 ...you don't write?...what the hell are you doing in a graffiti forum?... ...the answer to your question is no...spray paint is not illegal, photos are not illegal (unless you're a pedaphile) canvas is not illegal...not to mention that he's the one in trouble not you so they can't search your stufff...adn even if they did, what do you care if you don't write in the first place?...you don't even have to lie to get your stuff back...you can tell them with a straight face that you just think 'graffin is cool'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroyall Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 if your friend is on probation they dont always need a warrant to search. his right to that may have been taken away. as for all of the graff in your room, i think its straight. its your property, if they come knocking, tell them you own all graff related materials in that house. oh, but dont keep them in his room obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoutyDuck Posted September 5, 2004 Author Share Posted September 5, 2004 Re: dont sweat it Originally posted by RASTAKINOVER probation officer sometime make home visit but ive never had a probation officer look threw my room they just come and see how your doing if you on house arrest and make sure your home on time if they gave your friend a curfew.ive been on probation many times and still am never had a police officer search my room for no reason they need a warent for thatttt. When he was living at his old house, two officers came by and searched his room for over an hour. They looked through all of his photos, everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLode Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 If you have a locked door to which he does not have access to they usually can not search it. I wouldn't quote me on that because I'm pretty sure it varies from state to state. This would be the same as if he lived at home with his parents and he wasn't allowed access to the garage (it's locked), then during a search they wouldn't be able to go through the stuff. I only think this is for when you are on probation though, being raided though I would say is probably a different story. Depending on the terms of the probation, any officer can come into the place of residence at any time to search any rooms that the person on probation can get too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parcheesey Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Originally posted by porque ...you don't write?...what the hell are you doing in a graffiti forum?... exactly what i was gunna say.... but... step 1: never ask legal advice on 12oz step 2: call a lawyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowkid Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 why do you have the cans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoutyDuck Posted September 7, 2004 Author Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by johndoe exactly what i was gunna say.... but... step 1: never ask legal advice on 12oz step 2: call a lawyer Rather than just be a nameless toy, I decided almost a decade ago that I'd take photographs and whatnot, and one day eventually publish a book with my photos. Call me a jocker, call me whatever. Life goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoutyDuck Posted September 7, 2004 Author Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by snowkid why do you have the cans? Lots of people collect cans... Montana... old Krylon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KanFeumz Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 HOW OLD ARE YOU? ISNT PAINT LEGAL IF YOUR 18 YEARS OLD.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 For him it's shit, warrentless searches and all are allowed, conditions of probation, generally... For you, however... you can't stop cops from searching his room but they 'aren't allowed' to see much else in your house unless it's like weed laying out or drunken teens who can't shut up... I would use it as an excuse to clean up both your acts, get your poop in a group, and so on... Also, move all graff items, mostly paint and markers into a neutral spot, or better, somebody else's house... don't leave any of that shiot in his room though, that could get him busted and you investigated... MOST importantly, this proably won't be an issue ever but... better safe than sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoutyDuck Posted September 11, 2004 Author Share Posted September 11, 2004 Originally posted by Smart For him it's shit, warrentless searches and all are allowed, conditions of probation, generally... For you, however... you can't stop cops from searching his room but they 'aren't allowed' to see much else in your house unless it's like weed laying out or drunken teens who can't shut up... I would use it as an excuse to clean up both your acts, get your poop in a group, and so on... Also, move all graff items, mostly paint and markers into a neutral spot, or better, somebody else's house... don't leave any of that shiot in his room though, that could get him busted and you investigated... MOST importantly, this proably won't be an issue ever but... better safe than sorry. Thanks for the input, Smart. Yeah, I know he's kinda fucked. It just sucks for me, because I have canvases all over my walls, thousands of flicks, sketches people have done for me, paint, everything that would raise police eyebrows. I keep my room locked when I'm not here, and there is NOTHING of mine in the common areas of the house, and nothing illegal either that cops could see. One of the walls in my backyard is painted, it's about 80 feet long, hopefully they don't notice that. Technically there isn't anything that I could get busted for, but if they try and say I'm holding shit for my roommate, it's gonna get messy. Oh well though, because if it comes to it, I have the time and money to sue for any police related injustice :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max.Power Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 probation is a fucken joke bro.. ive been on it for the past 4 years... they wont search your house anyways.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoutyDuck Posted September 11, 2004 Author Share Posted September 11, 2004 Originally posted by Max.Power probation is a fucken joke bro.. ive been on it for the past 4 years... they wont search your house anyways.............. Like I said before, they already searched my friend's previous house. Two police, spending over an hour going through all of his shit. It happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE CORONER Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 bring out the AK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powered by.. Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Originally posted by OfficerSmith hello i am a fellow writer please email me and tell me what you write. hahha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul_art Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 dude my homie on the same probation he cant have anything on him but they didn't put him on search and seizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earmuffs Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Originally posted by wacytabacy not without a court order, A WARENT and/or A probable cause witch they probably could if your friend lives with you... i learned that shit in us history & govn't... i feel smart right on the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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