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poisonous or radioactive?

Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by rob deer, Aug 8, 2003.

  1. rob deer

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    poisonous or radioactive?

    Discussion started by rob deer - Aug 8, 2003

    sometimes I'll find a line that's layed up nicely but most of the rail cars have a sticker or a tag that says something along the lines of:

    "placarded for ...."

    the stickers are normally accompanied by dates for how long the line is to be furloghed and caution symbols...

    does this mean I should stay away and that they're layed up far away from civilization for a real good reason? I figure I'm already inhaling enough carcinogens, and who knows if some of the combinations of chemicals (ie. xylene/toulene + evil fertilizer residue) could be maybe deadly?

    thanks for any insight
     
  2. fr8otech

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    fr8otech - Replied Aug 8, 2003

    Fuck it

    When was a yard ever considered a safe place anyway?
    Those tall white piles of debris from hoppers have always made me wonder what I'm around...
    Yes, those stickers are a legit warning, but I don't think anything would happen from painting the outside. Now if the door was open....or you could smell something bad.....that's a given
     
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  3. king kong

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    king kong - Replied Aug 8, 2003

    those stickers are towards the people who unload and load things in and out, nothing is gonna happen to you...
     
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    dukeofyork - Replied Aug 9, 2003

    we'll read about ya in the papers dog!


    :D
     
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  5. nvOne

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    nvOne - Replied Aug 12, 2003

    I've painted boxcars that are being fumigated lots of times. Sometimes the fumes (i cant remember exactly what it is right now) are leaking out and it smells pretty bad..probably gonna get a fuckin tumor soon.
     
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    taper - Replied Aug 13, 2003

    we made a kid lick some of that pile of white shit on the tracks when we were young......luckily it was salt not some fuckin chemical. boy the shit kids do..
     
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  7. coolname

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    coolname - Replied Aug 13, 2003

    Radioactive...

    OHFX Gondolas with a tarp over them (blue) carry flourine or flourine by-products mixed with sand and ore in them. Write to the address below and send two stamps, there is an article in a mag put out by the HRTA about it....Peace....
     
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    !@#$% - Replied Aug 13, 2003

    everyone knows trains carry lots of superhazardous stuff..
    it has to be transported somehow, and they won't put it on planes or tractor trailers.

    stay observant.

    if there is a smell or an odor or whatever that is bothering you, stay away. duh

    radiation leakage is highly unlikely, because that would be on the level of environmental disaster

    any big piles of white are gonna be salt or some deposit like that, say calcium chloride (chalk)

    if anything super corrosive/hazardous started leaking, it would become the EPA's problem. the train workers don't wanna get hurt either..

    bottom line: WEAR YOUR MASK
     
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  9. Bosco

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    Bosco - Replied Aug 14, 2003

    The placards are also for when a train derails, the emergency crew will know how to handle the situation. For example, some chemicals become poisonous after mixing with water and produce a lethal combination. But painting them you should be straight...as long as you don't climb up a tankcar, open the hatch and jump in!

    Also watch out for trains with containers of trash. I know a few places contract out unit trains with special containers filled at a landfill, and transport them to another state where they are offloaded and dumped.
     
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  10. rob deer

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    rob deer - Replied Aug 22, 2003

    well, there goes my weekend. no more derailed tanker swimming for me. thanks for the info. good lookin out bosco.
     
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    type R - Replied Aug 29, 2003

    you will be fine...although if you smell something that seems to be leaking, leave. is doing a straight letter on some piece of shit hopper really worth a tumor?
     
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    SleepAnDream - Replied Aug 29, 2003

    in the famouse words of californias newest polititian: its nawt ah tewma.
     
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    Cracked Ass - Replied Sep 2, 2003

    I'd have to see the placards to tell you...or maybe you could be more specific as to what's on them, including any 4-digit numbers.
    Don't hang around cars that are being fumigated, they use phosphine (PH3) which is nasty and will fuck you up, a little now and a lot later.
    Whoever mentioned fluorine is a little off on their science. Fluorine is not radioactive (unless it's an isotope) and cannot be found in nature because it will react with almost anything. It's possible that fluorine compounds mixed with sand are in railcars, but again they ought not to be radioactive.
    I know my chemistry, I just don't have enough info to give people definite answers about their spot or situation.
     
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