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PAYING FOR GRAFFITI

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by SCAGNETTI, Apr 24, 2002.

  1. SCAGNETTI

    SCAGNETTI New Jack

    Joined: Mar 13, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    HELLO!!! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR GRAFFITI
    ILLEGAL = FREE
    THIS TOPIC ORIGINATES FROM ME BROWSING E-BAY YESTERDAY LOOKING FOR MOVIE POSTERS TO DECORATE MY WALLS
    I CAME ACROSS PEOPLE SELLING FLICKS ON E-BAY
    FLICKS!!!????
    RARE FLICKS (HAHA) SO WHAT???
    ARE YOU REALLY WILLING TO PURCHASE PHOTOGRAPHS OF GRAFFITI
    IF YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU'RE A HOMOSEXUAL, NO IFS ANDS OR BUTTTS
    I'M NOT STEPPING ON TOES IF YOU'RE SELLING THEM, CUS WE ALL KNOW A HUSTLE IS A HUSTLE, BUT IF YOU'RE BUYING THEM YOU'RE A SUCKER DUCK!
    I'M NOT EVEN GETTING INTO THE CORNBALLS WHO BUY PAINT AND STICKERS AND SHIT, BUT THIS NEXT ONE TAKES THE CAKE:
    I HEARD SOME HERB PAYED A COUPLE HUNDRED BUCKS FOR A BLACK-BOOK WITH PIECES IN IT (WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??!!) THAT KIND OF SHIT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!
    CAN I GET A WITNESS?
     
  2. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 11, 2001 Messages: 13,050 Likes Received: 8
    um i can be a "witness"

    but i hate to tell you this, but its been going on for a long time....i guess ive just learned to shrug my shoulders and not let it bother me...plus who am i to impose any "rule"...

    my one problem lies in your conflicting statement, how you seem to abolish any responsibility on behalf of the seller, but completely rip a new one on behalf of the buyer, calling them a "SUCKER DUCK"....so im confused....
     
  3. SCAGNETTI

    SCAGNETTI New Jack

    Joined: Mar 13, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    DON'T TRY TO PATRONIZE
    YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, AND IF YOU DON'T, THINK A LITTLE HARDER
    ***HINT: ONE OF THEM IS GETTING MONEY, AND ONE OF THEM IS GIVING IT
     
  4. Eski

    Eski Guest

    what people choose to buy and sell is theyre own business mate , they can buy all the shit they like and i doubt theyre going to listen to you . people have bought weirder shit than photos , who are you to tell people what to buy ?
     
  5. SCAGNETTI

    SCAGNETTI New Jack

    Joined: Mar 13, 2002 Messages: 0 Likes Received: 0
    WOW, U PEOPLE ARE GAYER THAN I THOUGHT
     
  6. ~KRYLON2~

    ~KRYLON2~ 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Oct 13, 2001 Messages: 10,443 Likes Received: 192
    why would you buy pics of graff when one you can get pics off the net for free...or juss buy a mag containing pictures WTF is the world coming to
     
  7. MR BOJANGLES

    MR BOJANGLES Guest

    i always say the exact same thing.
     
  8. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 11, 2001 Messages: 13,050 Likes Received: 8
    ...marb red is the best smoke...

    and im sorry if you thought i was patronizing, i wasnt...

    basically you have a double standard...it doesnt make sense...you cant slam one and not the other...so the guy who sells em, isnt a "sellout"(sorry i cant think of a better term)?...you shoot your own arguement in the foot dood....dont get me wrong im right there with ya, as far as buying em, i just think that the seller has to claim some responsibility....

    actually i would go as far to say that i have more distaste for the person who cops his shit on ebay...why?...well assuming he has put in quality time, he thus has the quality flicks, then one could easliy say that he should know better, he has been around...that they, the "toy"(another term i hate) buying the flicks, is just doing what he is being a "toy", and he is cheating himself...my shoebox sucks, but i still would want to flcik my own NACE or trade for it rather then get it off of ebay...but the guy that has put in the time should know the deal, and should either give it away to someone he deems worthy, or simply put in a shelf in the closet for when he is seventy...


    but then again, i find shrugging shoulders to be the best approach, but im always down for general round table discussions....
     
  9. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 11, 2001 Messages: 13,050 Likes Received: 8
    id like to also add that your justification, or rather rationalization that making money cleans someone of any moral sense of right and wrong or duty to something he loves and puts work into is straight fucking repulsive, in my own opinion...that is the same fucking cop-out that the rich greedy tycoons and money grubbing folks use to justify it to themselves when they lie awake in their bed....hope you voted republican....and dont ever let me catch you bitchin' about a system that your are helping to keep intact....
     
  10. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 11, 2001 Messages: 13,050 Likes Received: 8
    ...im sorry that last part was not really directed at you marbs, it just that way of think irks the fuck outta me, but attacking people isnt a good way to have a healthy discussion...
     
  11. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 7, 2001 Messages: 2,955 Likes Received: 1
    Please do not take this as a personal attack, but stating opinions rather then fact is a weak way to present your point of view. Usually an argument backed up with valid facts and citations conveys a message better then an argument backed up with all opinion.

    Also, being gay should not be something negative. Even if 1% of the US Population is gay, that still a WHOLE lot of gay people. Now imagine all these people beating you..Gay bashing is not tolerated these days..
     
  12. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    if you pay to get your flics developed, are you a sucker? if you pay to get doubles of someone elses flics, are you a sucker? if you werent alive in 1974 to take pictures of NYC subways, and you buy an original flic, so you can have an 'original' piece of history, you're a sucker? sorry we all cant be as cool as you. perhaps if i changed y name to 'newport' and typed in all caps, the world would become more clear to me...
     
  13. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 11, 2001 Messages: 13,050 Likes Received: 8
    metallix, your absolutely right, however in this discussion the facts are known:

    people are selling flicks, and people are buying flicks


    ...from here on out it is how you interpret those facts...there is no right or wrong here....its not really a factual arguement, it is an arguement of opinions, and these can get ugly real quick....

    if i argue the world is flat, then yes you provide a basis of facts to discount my arguement...

    but in this case its a question of like and dislike....


    if your refering to my ranting about the evils of greed and the rationalization of it....then yes i was on a soap box and have no proof of my accusations...however experience has brought me to that point...im not just being a random anarchist....
     
  14. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 11, 2001 Messages: 13,050 Likes Received: 8
  15. Remi Martin

    Remi Martin New Jack

    Joined: Jun 3, 2001 Messages: 96 Likes Received: 0
    i have no problem buying flicks and paying a nice price for them, provided that goes directly to the artist thats work is featured in the shot...for example, not that you all should need one..if i respect Mr.********'s work and come across him, since he is a artist that puts in a lot of work and and i like his or hers work, then i would have no problem breaking them off a nice price for a signed flick...in fact i feel good about it because i am supporting that artist and would feel completely at ease for paying lets say 20-40 cans of paint for a flick from ten years back...and again, im supporting the culture from within...since graffiti is done on other peoples shit and i view it as art and i like art and collect art, i cant really go buy walls and shit and canvas's are pricey, flicks are the next best thing, not to mention photography is a art within itself....but i can assure you wont find me on ebay shopping for flicks and filled black books......nahhhhh
     
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