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Patriotism

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by CIPHER_one, Nov 4, 2001.

  1. CIPHER_one

    CIPHER_one Senior Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2000 Messages: 2,300 Likes Received: 0
    (not my own words)

    One of the great attractions of patriotism - it fulfills
    our worst wishes. In the person of our nation we
    are able, vicariously, to bully and cheat. Bully and
    cheat, what's more, with a feeling that we are
    profoundly virtuous.
    -- Aldous Huxley, British Writer [1894-1963]

    In times of government and media-declared war,
    elite pressures combine to compel people to express
    or reflect one's patriotism.

    The question immediately arises: what *is* patriotism?

    Love of country? Love of one's people? Or, blind,
    yielding obedience to government dictates?

    Is it the supine surrender of one's will to that of those in
    political power? Or is it the conviction that one must speak
    truth to power -- yea, even unpopular, unheralded truth?

    Questions such as these are not easily answered, for
    there is no one, single response. They are answered
    individually, in the silence of the soul. How one answers
    depends where one is in national life, or where one comes
    from.

    An American citizen, elected to a high place of Congress,
    dares to refuse to surrender her political independence to
    the nation's chief executive, urging caution as she casts a
    lone vote. She is threatened with death, not from foreign
    terrorists, but from domestic ones!

    A nationally known broadcaster announces that he is at
    the disposal of his Commander-in-Chief, "just tell me where
    to go, Mr. President, and I'm there" (or words to that effect),
    tears welling up over his stage make-up.

    Consider, shall we say, these two extremes of public
    behavior. Which is more, well, patriotic?

    One retains her political independence, saying, in effect,
    "I was not elected to surrender my powers to legislate to
    the executive, but to represent my constituency, and the
    principle of separation of powers, without which, democracy
    is illusory."

    The other publicly surrenders, saying, in effect, "I will not
    pretend to objectivity. You are my Commander; I am the
    commanded. My journalism is at your service, Sire."

    The one is Congresswoman Barbara Jackson Lee,
    member of the House of Representatives, 9th Congressional
    district, a Democrat from California. The other is CBS
    network anchor Dan Rather, the multi-million dollar, unelected
    corporate journalist.

    Which is more popular?

    Which is more American?

    The U.S. Constitution has no provision (to this writer's
    knowledge) for a national legislator to surrender her
    independence to the executive - even in times of war.

    As for the "Commander in Chief" reference, despite
    Dan's journalistic genuflection, the Constitution's
    Article II states that the President is Commander in
    Chief of "the Army and Navy of the United States,"
    and, under certain conditions, "the Militia." Unless
    Dan enlists, anchors aren't included.

    A free person is not patriotic because he surrenders
    his freedom. He is either free, or he ain't. Which are you?
     
  2. ....than whose words are they?
     
  3. CIPHER_one

    CIPHER_one Senior Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2000 Messages: 2,300 Likes Received: 0
  4. BoB.1

    BoB.1 New Jack

    Joined: Oct 25, 2001 Messages: 30 Likes Received: 0
    First, you have to be true to self. Everything has multiple levels and angles, even patriotism. I can understand people putting up their flags and whatnot...but, blindly following the government? That's like the little rodent whateverthefucks that follow one after the other of a cliff.
     
  5. garcia_vega

    garcia_vega Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 6, 2001 Messages: 2,931 Likes Received: 2
    i have no loyatly to any country. a country is just an imaginary line that separates one part of the land from another, and i didn't draw the lines so i really don't give a shit about which side i ended up on.
     
  6. I Luv Roo

    I Luv Roo Member

    Joined: Aug 20, 2001 Messages: 733 Likes Received: 0
    those rodents are called LEMMINGS
     
  7. tEkRoCkS

    tEkRoCkS Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 2, 2001 Messages: 7,132 Likes Received: 0
    patriotism is also a good song by COMPANY FLOW.
     
  8. OGBforMumia

    OGBforMumia Member

    Joined: Sep 23, 2000 Messages: 710 Likes Received: 0
    you aint lyin.
     
  9. *ZEMONEDOE$

    *ZEMONEDOE$ Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 4, 2001 Messages: 6,137 Likes Received: 0
    god bless the u.s. and fuck the rest
     
  10. fiberoptical

    fiberoptical New Jack

    Joined: Apr 26, 2001 Messages: 31 Likes Received: 0
    poulation control.
    thin the herd...useless eaters.

    mk ultra is alive and well...you are a victim of it.

    we did not even vote for bush.

    state sponsored disinformation agent for writers.
    mr. cleansheets

    are you apt to become a jesuit?

    ORDO AB CHAO
     
  11. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    become an independant farmer.
    .
    .
    ?
    cleansheets...
    what are you doing about it?
     
  12. Esai

    Esai Member

    Joined: Oct 12, 2001 Messages: 612 Likes Received: 1
    ALL YOU PATRIOTS CAN SUCK MY DICK. IM A TRUE NATIVE TO THIS LAND AND IM SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING EUROPEANS FUCKIN IT UP. FUCK BIN LADEN AND BUSH. PEOPLE DONT SEE THAT BOTH THE TALIBAN AND THE US ARE THE SAME IN MANY RESPECTS, THEY BOTH ONLY SERVE THE INTERESTS OF A SELECT FEW, AND THOUSANDS PAY FOR THIS. BOTH GROUPS BRAINWASH THE MASSES TO FOLLOW THEIR RHETORIC WHILE THE PUBLIC IS REALLY GETTIN FUCKED IN THE ASS BY THEIR LEADERS. MOST PEOPLE ARGUE BACK WITH IGNORANT COMMENTS BUT CHECK IT OUT, LOOK AT HISTORY AND CURRENT EVENTS FROM ALL POINTS OF VIEW AND THEN ARGUE. PEOPLE GET ALL DEFENSIVE AND MAD CUZ THEY CANT LOOK AT THEIRSELVES AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE BEING PLAYED FOR FOOLS BY OUR, AND MANY OTHER GOVERNMENTS. THE TRUTH IS BUSH, AND ALL THE CRACKERS IN CONGRESS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS COUNTRY, ONLY CARE ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF THE WEALTHY, AND ABOUT THROWIN A BONE TO THE MASSES TO KEEP THEM HAPPY AND AVOID A REVOLT. IMSURE MY COMMENTS WILL ONLY BE ANSWERED BY STUPIDITY BUT EVERY CONSCIOUS PERSON SHOULD MAKE AN EFFORT TO ENLIGHTEN PEOPLE. I TRULY LOVE THIS LAND BUT NOT ITS GOVERNMENT


    STOLEN LAND X3
     
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