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Patriot act

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by Same SBC, Oct 9, 2004.

  1. Same SBC

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    Patriot act

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    Does the Patriot Act give the police to search you without consent or without a warrent??
     
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    skem - Replied Oct 9, 2004

    patriot act has nothing to do with search and seizures.
     
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    SWIMS - Replied Oct 9, 2004

    keep this thread running. I have a chance to speak about the act in 3 weeks. I will put up what I learn
     
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    ...kinda...they can get a warrant through a secret court...but there is also a provision that allows them to conduct the search and then apply for the warrant...the scary thing is that they also don't even have to notify you if they perform a search, so you may not even know it happened...but this stuff is geared towards terrorism...unless you have ties to an off shore bankaccount that is funding fundamentalist extremists, you don't have that much to worry about...for now...

    ...if you're really interested in the matter you should check out the ACLU website...they have a lot of information on the act...
     
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    aight thanks
     
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    test - Replied Oct 10, 2004

    patriot act is about police/fbi right to search homes, etc, or amke arrests without a warrant. it's described as a "terrorist fighting" act, but the language within it is vague and it can legally be applied to outrageous shit. "suspected terrorist" is ill defined within the writing, as is suspicious activity. i'm not sure if there have been any reports of ill use of it thus far but you ought to look into it, the potential is definitely there. compare it to the alien and sedition acts of... i dnno about 200 or so years ago in this country. it's kinda scary, we gotta be careful the kind of loosely written legislation we let congress pass in hasty times of reaction to emergency. shit was set to expire on a certian date, and probably ought to, or it needs to be revised. we all know the government abuses a lot of its powers (sorry if you're a big patriot, but this is simply true) so we ought to keep em in check. that's what 'democracy' is about in the nation, checking the strength of the federal government against states, states against local, local against individual. end ramble.
     
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    cops can search u wen they feel somehitng fishy or they feel u could have somehitng illegal on u
     
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    test - Replied Oct 10, 2004

    yeah cops can search persons on basis of "probable cause' which they can pretty much make up abuot anything. patriot act has to do with with bugging, monitoring, raiding and searching home/office and seizure of property/arrests without warrent. has nothing to do with street encounters.
     
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    toy :hatred:
     
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    Ok get this one, my boy was out solo and a cop pulls up and my friend was done his shit for a good 30 seconds by now he was taking a pic of it but the cop didnt catch him in the act but the cop walks right up to him says give me your bag he goes do u have a warrent the cop goes, its past curfew so basically kid your fucked so as the cops searching the bag, it was a brown paper bag my boy books and gets away, but is this true can they legally search you just for it being past curfew, he is a minor?

    P.S. A tip, dress like a jahovas witness cuz they always have bookbags on and nobody would ever suspect them
     
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    just felt like saying thst is is highly unlikely that the cops would use the patriot act to go after a writer....unless said writer was arabic. no joke. it just kinda gives them an excuse.....

    if you want it changed, contact your local congress person, tell them. vote.
     
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    ...yes...if you're a minor out after curfew you may be subject to a lapse of certain rights do to this...this may vary due to your location and local laws...but the lesson that should be learned from your story is to not take night flicks of street spots...that's just stupid...being smart about what you do while you're out is the most important step you can take to keep shit from happening to you...
     
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    Same SBC - Replied Oct 11, 2004

    toy :hatred:
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    bite me
     
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    yea but dont get it fucked up...it is being used for almost anything just for the simple fact they get to bypass alot of shit by citing the patriot act...

    for instance that roof you just climbed off of...the train bridge you just came from...its all justification for the reckless use of the act...theyll ask who you are..you wont answer..normally you dont have to produce id or give your name but they search you on the false pretense that your up to something sinisterfor a dumb ass reason such as you taking a harmless picture..(god forbid your even remotely close to something important.)
    then you still dont produce identification then they take you to jail on a trumped up charge.then your there and nonone knows and they hassle you for no reason for countless hours..turn you loose if your lucky or better yet during all this you tell them something because your shook then it gets bad for you for no reason. This shit goes down every day for one reason or another.:nope:

    Because as history states every terrorist isnt foreign anymore.
    there is something called domestic terrorism(oklahoma city-FBI Building)"Sleeper Cells"...terrorists in other places are as young as 5-6 years old.Whos to say it cant/wont happen here,it honestly doesnt make sense if you think realistically about it but what the fuck do they care its just an excuse.

    just my 2cents though..stay up..be safe..be eeeezeeee....early!!!!
    ps: Excuse the "Conspiracy Theory" type rant :lol:
     
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    test - Replied Oct 12, 2004

    yeah like i posted earlier i'm real curious for a list or report of cases of patriot act abuse. i know there were a few regarding arabic people getting harassed, but i mean just the general law abiding fuck, mr. corporate man or some kid who downloads a lot of porn or somthing, weird off the wall ridiculous shit... anyway yeah, just because patriot act doesn't apply to street encounters doeesn't mean they won't apply it or some other whack law to justify harassin' you on the street. jsut be careful and take all the precautions you would to avoid police encounters anyway, that's about the best you can do. shrug.
     
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