Same SBC Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Does the Patriot Act give the police to search you without consent or without a warrent?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skem Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 patriot act has nothing to do with search and seizures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIMS Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 keep this thread running. I have a chance to speak about the act in 3 weeks. I will put up what I learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porque Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Originally posted by Same SBC@Oct 9 2004, 05:24 PM Does the Patriot Act give the police to search you without consent or without a warrent?? Quoted post ...kinda...they can get a warrant through a secret court...but there is also a provision that allows them to conduct the search and then apply for the warrant...the scary thing is that they also don't even have to notify you if they perform a search, so you may not even know it happened...but this stuff is geared towards terrorism...unless you have ties to an off shore bankaccount that is funding fundamentalist extremists, you don't have that much to worry about...for now... ...if you're really interested in the matter you should check out the ACLU website...they have a lot of information on the act... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Same SBC Posted October 10, 2004 Author Share Posted October 10, 2004 aight thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 patriot act is about police/fbi right to search homes, etc, or amke arrests without a warrant. it's described as a "terrorist fighting" act, but the language within it is vague and it can legally be applied to outrageous shit. "suspected terrorist" is ill defined within the writing, as is suspicious activity. i'm not sure if there have been any reports of ill use of it thus far but you ought to look into it, the potential is definitely there. compare it to the alien and sedition acts of... i dnno about 200 or so years ago in this country. it's kinda scary, we gotta be careful the kind of loosely written legislation we let congress pass in hasty times of reaction to emergency. shit was set to expire on a certian date, and probably ought to, or it needs to be revised. we all know the government abuses a lot of its powers (sorry if you're a big patriot, but this is simply true) so we ought to keep em in check. that's what 'democracy' is about in the nation, checking the strength of the federal government against states, states against local, local against individual. end ramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistery Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 cops can search u wen they feel somehitng fishy or they feel u could have somehitng illegal on u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 yeah cops can search persons on basis of "probable cause' which they can pretty much make up abuot anything. patriot act has to do with with bugging, monitoring, raiding and searching home/office and seizure of property/arrests without warrent. has nothing to do with street encounters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRON KING Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by Same SBC@Oct 9 2004, 02:24 PM Does the Patriot Act give the police to search you without consent or without a warrent?? Quoted post toy :hatred: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheHat Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Ok get this one, my boy was out solo and a cop pulls up and my friend was done his shit for a good 30 seconds by now he was taking a pic of it but the cop didnt catch him in the act but the cop walks right up to him says give me your bag he goes do u have a warrent the cop goes, its past curfew so basically kid your fucked so as the cops searching the bag, it was a brown paper bag my boy books and gets away, but is this true can they legally search you just for it being past curfew, he is a minor? P.S. A tip, dress like a jahovas witness cuz they always have bookbags on and nobody would ever suspect them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 just felt like saying thst is is highly unlikely that the cops would use the patriot act to go after a writer....unless said writer was arabic. no joke. it just kinda gives them an excuse..... if you want it changed, contact your local congress person, tell them. vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porque Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by JimmyTheHat@Oct 11 2004, 12:12 AM Ok get this one, my boy was out solo and a cop pulls up and my friend was done his shit for a good 30 seconds by now he was taking a pic of it but the cop didnt catch him in the act but the cop walks right up to him says give me your bag he goes do u have a warrent the cop goes, its past curfew so basically kid your fucked so as the cops searching the bag, it was a brown paper bag my boy books and gets away, but is this true can they legally search you just for it being past curfew, he is a minor? Quoted post ...yes...if you're a minor out after curfew you may be subject to a lapse of certain rights do to this...this may vary due to your location and local laws...but the lesson that should be learned from your story is to not take night flicks of street spots...that's just stupid...being smart about what you do while you're out is the most important step you can take to keep shit from happening to you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Same SBC Posted October 11, 2004 Author Share Posted October 11, 2004 Originally posted by KRON KING+Oct 10 2004, 10:58 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KRON KING - Oct 10 2004, 10:58 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Same SBC@Oct 9 2004, 02:24 PM Does the Patriot Act give the police to search you without consent or without a warrent?? Quoted post toy :hatred: Quoted post [/b] bite me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelkaemoney Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 Originally posted by test@Oct 10 2004, 09:33 PM yeah cops can search persons on basis of "probable cause' which they can pretty much make up abuot anything. patriot act has to do with with bugging, monitoring, raiding and searching home/office and seizure of property/arrests without warrent. has nothing to do with street encounters. Quoted post yea but dont get it fucked up...it is being used for almost anything just for the simple fact they get to bypass alot of shit by citing the patriot act... for instance that roof you just climbed off of...the train bridge you just came from...its all justification for the reckless use of the act...theyll ask who you are..you wont answer..normally you dont have to produce id or give your name but they search you on the false pretense that your up to something sinisterfor a dumb ass reason such as you taking a harmless picture..(god forbid your even remotely close to something important.) then you still dont produce identification then they take you to jail on a trumped up charge.then your there and nonone knows and they hassle you for no reason for countless hours..turn you loose if your lucky or better yet during all this you tell them something because your shook then it gets bad for you for no reason. This shit goes down every day for one reason or another.:nope: Because as history states every terrorist isnt foreign anymore. there is something called domestic terrorism(oklahoma city-FBI Building)"Sleeper Cells"...terrorists in other places are as young as 5-6 years old.Whos to say it cant/wont happen here,it honestly doesnt make sense if you think realistically about it but what the fuck do they care its just an excuse. just my 2cents though..stay up..be safe..be eeeezeeee....early!!!! ps: Excuse the "Conspiracy Theory" type rant :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 yeah like i posted earlier i'm real curious for a list or report of cases of patriot act abuse. i know there were a few regarding arabic people getting harassed, but i mean just the general law abiding fuck, mr. corporate man or some kid who downloads a lot of porn or somthing, weird off the wall ridiculous shit... anyway yeah, just because patriot act doesn't apply to street encounters doeesn't mean they won't apply it or some other whack law to justify harassin' you on the street. jsut be careful and take all the precautions you would to avoid police encounters anyway, that's about the best you can do. shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2na Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Nice definition test... so fresh and so clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KARTOONKILLA Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 yea the patriot act has nothing to do with it. and the cops are not allowed to search you unless you give consent or they get a warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest qwerty Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 No, the patriot act can be used at anytime, including street encounters. They can arrest and hold you for (I believe) 48 hours without any real reason, simply because "They believe you were involved with suspicious activity. Although this is bullshit, if they know one of your buddies that were involved, they will arrest you, hold you for about 20-24 hours, then release you for no apparent reason and arrest that kid if you won't sing, so it looks like you snitched, and he will give a statement because they will say "so and so ratted on you, so just tell us what you did and we'll give you small charges". All they want is a statement. Cops are crooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Crispies Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 but keep in mind that the fourth amendment states that U.S. citizens do not have have to undergo unreasonable searches and seazures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest qwerty Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 It won't stop a Patriot act search and seizure. Hence the uproar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prescription-rx Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 im 17, and i got pulled over walking to my friends place in germantown, tenn. the cop just said empty your pockets and made us call my friends mom and give him my address and parents phone number in case they found any "vandalism" around that area. so all he got was the pack of cigarettes he could see in my pocket, my wallet, pocket knife, and my cell, which he got my moms number from. he didnt touch me or frisk me or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prescription-rx Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 oh and it was about 3 in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI-SQUARE Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 fuck da police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest qwerty Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Comin' straight from the underground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_1nR Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 yeah cops can search persons on basis of "probable cause' which they can pretty much make up abuot anything. patriot act has to do with with bugging, monitoring, raiding and searching home/office and seizure of property/arrests without warrent. has nothing to do with street encounters. Yes, all this bullshit about, "I do not consent to this search" is wack...cops can make up any reason for searching you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest qwerty Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oushla Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 just punch them in the face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackbookKWC Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Comin' straight from the underground. a young nigga got it bad cause im brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roch Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 rage against the machine rockin foreva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.