OSAMA BIN LADEN

Bin Laden: Al Qaeda motivated to strike U.S. again

Bush, Kerry denounce new videotaped message

Friday, October 29, 2004 Posted: 9:28 PM EDT (0128 GMT)

(CNN) -- Osama bin Laden delivered a new videotaped message in which he told Americans their security does not depend on the president they elect, but on U.S. policy. And he said al Qaeda remains motivated to strike the U.S. again.

"Although we are ushering the fourth year after 9/11, Bush is still exercising confusion and misleading you and not telling you the true reason. Therefore, the motivations are still there for what happened to be repeated," bin Laden said.

It marked the first videotaped message from the al Qaeda leader in nearly three years. (CNN's Octavia Nasr discusses the tape)

The tape was aired on the Arabic language network Al-Jazeera Friday, just four days before the U.S. presidential election.

Bin Laden said the message was being delivered directly to the American people, saying the attacks of September 11, 2001 were the result of U.S. foreign policy in Arab lands, specifically referring to Lebanon and the Palestinians. The terror attacks killed nearly 3,000 people.

At one point, he mentioned both President Bush and Democratic candidate Sen. John Kerry.

"Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands. Any nation that does not attack us will not be attacked," bin Laden said in the video.

Bush told reporters as he was boarding Air Force One for Columbus, Ohio, "Americans will not be intimidated or influenced by an enemy of our country. I'm sure Senator Kerry agrees with this. ... We are at war with these terrorists, and I am confident we will prevail."

Kerry told reporters in West Palm Beach, Florida: "Let me make it clear -- crystal clear: as Americans, we are absolutely united in our determination to hunt down and destroy Osama bin Laden and the terrorists."

He added: "They are barbarians. And I will stop at absolutely nothing to hunt down, capture or kill the terrorists wherever they are, whatever it takes. Period."

Bin Laden criticizes Bush

Bin Laden sharply criticized President Bush for his behavior on the morning of September 11, 2001, when the president was reading "My Pet Goat" to a group of schoolchildren in Florida at the time he was informed of the attacks.

"It never occurred that the highest leader of the military armed forces would leave 50,000 people to face the horror that they faced all by themselves when they needed him most," bin Laden said.

"He was more interested in listening to the child's story about the goat rather than worry about what was happening to the towers. So, that gave us double the time for us to execute our attacks."

Bin Laden was wearing a gold robe with a white headdress and white cloak. He had a long mostly gray beard, and appeared to be sitting behind a desk, reading from a paper statement, occasionally moving his right hand as he spoke.

U.S. government officials said the tape appeared to be authentic and recently made.

The U.S. embassy in Qatar received a copy of the Osama bin Laden tape from the Qatari government Friday, a senior State Department official told CNN. The Al-Jazeera network, which aired the tape, is based in the Qatari capital of Doha.

The total length of the tape received by the U.S. government is 18 minutes. Bin Laden spoke for 14 minutes and 39 seconds. U.S. officials would not comment on what else is on the tape.

The official said that once the embassy received the video, the U.S. ambassador to Qatar asked the Qatari government to use its influence with the management of Al-Jazeera to convince the network not to air the tape.

"We are disappointed that the tape was aired," said this official.

It was unclear whether the Qatari government urged Al-Jazeera to refrain from airing the tape. However, the network did not air the tape in its entirety.

The United States regularly complains to the Qatari government about Al-Jazeera's coverage and has often asked the government to use its influence to rein in the network.

Intelligence officials have warned previously about the possibility of al Qaeda trying to attack the United States around the time of next Tuesday's election, similar to the al Qaeda train bombings in Madrid on March 11 before the Spanish presidential election.

Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands. Any nation that does not attack us will not be attacked.

-- Osama bin Laden

U.S. officials said there was no immediate plan to raise the nation's terrorism alert level because of the taped message.

One official said that the government is waiting for the intelligence community to further analyze the tape, and that among things analysts will be looking for are any hidden messages that might be contained in the tape.

The videotape was aired just one day after ABC News broadcast a video of a man claiming to be an American operative of al Qaeda who said the United States should brace for a large-scale attack that "will make you forget all about September 11th."

Although authorities have been unable to authenticate that message, a senior law enforcement official said the bin Laden message, coupled with the one broadcast by ABC, has "set off alarm bells among top officials."

"The anxiety level is through the roof," the official said.

The official said federal law enforcement agencies are taking the bin Laden tape "extremely seriously," and officials are on "a high state of alert."

In the video, bin Laden said he decided to attack the twin towers of the World Trade Center in 1982 after the invasion of Lebanon by Israel, which he claimed was backed by the U.S. Navy.

"And as I was looking at those towers that were destroyed in Lebanon, it occurred to me that we have to punish the transgressor with the same" he says, "and that we had to destroy the towers in America, so that they taste what we tasted and they stop killing our women and children."

He underscored it was U.S. foreign policy that led to the 9/11 attacks, saying, "Bush says and claims, that we hate freedom, let him tell us then, 'Why did we not attack Sweden?'"

The statement aired Friday was the first videotaped message from the al Qaeda leader since December 2001.

Since he was last seen speaking on tape, at least seven audiotapes have surfaced on which a voice believed to be bin Laden issued messages. The most recent of those messages came in April, in which he made references to the train bombings in Madrid the month before.

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doesn't this strike you as funny that after almost 3 years of silence from Osama Bin Laden, he magically appears right before the american election?

- according to Mr. Moore, the Bin Laden family and the Bush family have been in cahoots for some time...

- just interesting time for this tape to emerge

yea already posted on crossfire.

As your friend, I feel it be my job to tell you this is in the wrong place and there's already a thread on it.....

Sorry.

^^double whammy

Osama Bin Laden works for the Bush admin.

i am sorry kids

please close and delete...

:(

i havent checked out all the new sectionsa dn therefore didnt not see the "political debate" area

sigh

i lose

osama bin laden pumps gas for me.

Sarah.....you lose......r....

oh sit

my heart skipped a beat because I thought, from this thread title, that he was captured, right before the elections. That would destroy any semblance of hope I would have that the Democrats would win...

so fuck you for making my heart skip a beat.

^^^

That's a little harsh.....

Originally posted by Dr. Dazzle@Oct 30 2004, 01:56 AM

^^^

 

That's a little harsh.....

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or maybe its a little un-too-harsh....just maybe?

eh

i'm not insulted

i'm sorry for leading you on Weapon X

i'm taking you're a republican?

Originally posted by sarahyoulose@Oct 30 2004, 07:01 AM

eh

i'm not insulted

i'm sorry for leading you on Weapon X

 

i'm taking you're a republican?

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He pretty much flat out stated he was a democrat..

wow

stupid

brain

4hours sleep

followed by hangover

followed by 8 hours of school

followed by 5 hours work

= sarah's brain broken

honestly i am not this stupid on a regular basis

missing something someone said in this forum doesnt constitute stupidity on anyone's part..

yea ya ya dis shitznit iz like psikologikal 0peratetorions

dis nigga ben luden worx 4 da adminostrcation

itz all about conditioned responzesz t0 da 1mage oF ben luden

2 make pepal vote for der hero

conditioned respzonesz.

Originally posted by sarahyoulose@Oct 30 2004, 05:45 AM

 

Kerry told reporters in West Palm Beach, Florida: "Let me make it clear -- crystal clear: as Americans, we are absolutely united in our determination to hunt down and destroy Osama bin Laden and the terrorists."

 

He added: "They are barbarians. And I will stop at absolutely nothing to hunt down, capture or kill the terrorists wherever they are, whatever it takes. Period."

 

Just a quick note on "barbarians". It comes from a greek word meaning "not greek", and the "barbar" part of the word originally mocked the non-greek languages.

I regard people with suspicion when they describe someone as a "barbarian"...

well, its true, those terrorist aren't Greeks.

does anyone on 12oz live in the areas that US are attacking...id like to know what its like on the other side of the world...

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Transcript of bin Ladin's speech

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Saturday 30 October 2004 11:28 AM GMT

Bin Ladin directed his message at the American people

Following is the English transcript of Usama bin Ladin's speech in a videotape aired by Aljazeera on Friday 29 October. In the interests of authenticity the transcript, which appeared as subtitles at the foot of the screen, has been left unedited.

To begin: Peace be upon he who follow the Guidance.

People of United States, this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal way to prevent another Manhattan and deals with the war and its causes and results.

Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar in human life and that free men do not forfeit their security contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom.

If so, then let him explain why did not strike - for example - Sweden.

And we know that freedom haters do not possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 may Allah have mercy on them.

No, we fight because we are free men who do not sleep under oppression.

We want to restore freedom to our Nation and just as you lay waste to our Nation so shall we lay waste to yours.

But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events of September 11, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real cause and thus the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred.

So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and I shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken for you to consider.

I say to you Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike towers.

But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the America/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.

The events that affected my soul in a difficult way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American 6th fleet helped them in that.

And the whole world saw and heard but did not respond.

In those difficult moments many hard to describe ideas bubbled in my soul but in the end they produced intense feelings of rejection of tyranny and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressors in kind and that we destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.

We have not found it difficult to deal with the Bush administration in light of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half of which are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents.

Our experience with them is lengthy and both types are replete with those who are characterised by pride, arrogance, greed and misappropriation of wealth.

This resemblance began after the visits of Bush Senior to the region at a time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that these visits would have an effect on our countries. All of a sudden he was affected by these monarchies and military regimes and became jealous of their remaining decades in their position to embezzle the public wealth of the Nation without supervision or accounting.

So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named it the Patriot Act under the pretences of fighting terrorism.

In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors and did not forget to import expertise in election fraud from the regions presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty.

All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration.

And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration notice.

It never occurred to us that the Commander in Chief of the armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone at a time when they most needed him.

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers we were given three times the period required to execute the operations. All praise is due to Allah.

Aljazeera

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You can find this article at:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C...BC36E87F61F.htm

Why Write---

I can tell you what it's like to be in areas the U.S. is attacking: real loud. Real, real loud. And dusty. Real dusty, too.

Originally posted by bodice_ripper@Oct 30 2004, 05:34 AM

 

I regard people with suspicion when they describe someone as a "barbarian"...

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Unless you hear it coming out of my mouth that is...alltogther now VARVARI

can't see how that could possibly help bush get elected. and everything about this that i've heard up until now was pretty much negated by the transcript. it doesn't say anything about striking america on election day. despite the crazy biblical way of talking it sounds like the man has a head on his shoulders and isn't afraid to say whats on him mind. i just read it quickly though, it was pretty hard to decipher.