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Ohio Truck Driver Helping Al Qaeda

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Daze One Million, Jun 20, 2003.

  1. Daze One Million

    Daze One Million Elite Member

    Joined: Jun 12, 2001 Messages: 3,804 Likes Received: 0
    i just heard on the news bout some "american" who got caught out helping al qaeda with getting cell phones to sleeping bags, as well as map out terrorist targets...hearing this really pissed me off, what is our nation comming to were even our own people are against us, i mean im not ignorant to the world, i know not everyone is a good guy but serously what the fuck
     
  2. TheStudMuffn

    TheStudMuffn New Jack

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  3. B_As_In_Bot

    B_As_In_Bot Elite Member

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    ..sounds like propaganda
     
  4. Dick Quickwood

    Dick Quickwood 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Aug 25, 2002 Messages: 14,783 Likes Received: 14
    cell phones and sleeping bags huh ? and now hes a terrorist. i dont know what to say


    WASHINGTON (June 20) - An Ohio truck driver who met Osama bin Laden and admitted plots against trains and the Brooklyn Bridge has pleaded guilty to felony charges and is cooperating in the investigation of al-Qaida, federal authorities said Thursday.

    Iyman Faris, 34, of Columbus acknowledged in court documents that he met bin Laden in 2000 at an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan and provided operatives there with sleeping bags, cell phones and other assistance.

    Later, Faris received attack instructions from top terror leader Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, authorities said, for what they suggested might have been a second wave planned for New York and Washington to follow the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

    ''This case highlights the very real threats that still exist here at home in the United States of America in the war against terrorism,'' Attorney General John Ashcroft said at a Justice Department news conference. ''While we are disabling al-Qaida, we don't believe it is disabled.''

    Under an agreement reached May 1 and unsealed Thursday in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va., just outside Washington, Faris pleaded guilty to providing material support to terrorists and conspiracy to provide support.

    Faris, who is represented by a lawyer and said in the documents he was not coerced to plead, could face 20 years in prison and up to $500,000 in fines. Sentencing was set for Aug. 1.

    He is a native of Kashmir who originally came to the United States in May 1994. He become a naturalized U.S. citizen in December 1999. Also known as Mohammed Rauf, he has been working as an independent trucker based in Columbus for several years.

    Under that alias, records show he was married to Geneva Bowling from 1995 to 2000 and lived with her in a small home in Columbus. ''That someone even associated with this craziness is right here in Columbus, it's sad,'' said Negla Ross, who lives next door.

    A government statement, signed by Faris, says that he was instructed by a senior al-Qaida operative to obtain ''gas cutters,'' probably acetylene torches, that would enable him to sever the cables on ''a bridge in New York City'' that officials said was the Brooklyn Bridge.

    Although the senior operative is referred to only as ''C-2'' in the documents, a U.S. law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity identified him as Mohammed. He was captured in Pakistan on March 1 and is said to be providing interrogators with a wealth of information about al-Qaida's global reach.

    Faris was told to refer to the cutters as ''gas stations'' so eavesdroppers would not get wind of the plot.

    In addition, Mohammed told Faris that he should obtain heavy torque tools - code-named ''mechanics shops'' - that could be used to derail trains in the United States, the affidavit says. No details about location or time of an attack is mentioned in the court papers, and they name only New York and Washington.

    None of the allegedly planned attacks occurred.

    The meetings took place in 2000, 2001 and early 2002 in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the government statement says. Faris' original contact with al-Qaida came through a second senior operative, named only as ''C-1'' or ''bin Laden's right foot,'' whom the government says Faris had known since the Soviet-Afghanistan war in the 1980s.

    The statement says that Faris researched the Brooklyn Bridge on the Internet and traveled to New York in late 2002 to examine it, finally concluding that ''the plot to destroy the bridge by severing the cables was very unlikely to succeed.''

    He sent a coded message via the Internet in early 2003 to al-Qaida leaders: ''The weather is too hot.''

    Earlier, Faris was asked by bin Laden associates in late 2000 to look into ultralight aircraft that could be used as escape planes by al-Qaida operatives, prosecutors say. Faris had mentioned his access to airports as a trucker, sparking interest in cargo planes because of their weight and high fuel capacity.

    In addition, Faris helped al-Qaida obtain 2,000 lightweight sleeping bags that were shipped to Afghanistan for use by bin Laden and other al-Qaida members.

    Using a disguise, he helped up to six al-Qaida members with travel arrangements so they could go to Yemen and also delivered cell phones and cash to Mohammed, court documents say.

    Ashcroft and senior FBI officials would not detail the circumstances of Faris' arrest. They also would not say whether Faris was part of an active al-Qaida cell in the United States, or whether any of his activities had previously been monitored.

    ''Where possible we will take the terror organization apart in large pieces and in this case one piece at a time,'' said Pasquale ''Pat'' D'Amuro, chief of the FBI's counterterrorism division.

    Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the Justice Department has obtained a number of guilty pleas from or won court convictions of members of alleged al-Qaida cells, including six of seven members of an alleged cell in Lackawanna, N.Y. The Faris plea, however, is unusual in that it involves direct connections to al-Qaida plots.

    Two alleged members of a radical Islamic movement allied with al-Qaida were convicted earlier this month in Detroit of providing material support and resources to the terrorist group by running an illegal document ring. One other man was acquitted in that case.

    AP-NY-06-20-03 0006EDT





    how do they monitor someones e mail ?
     
  5. TheStudMuffn

    TheStudMuffn New Jack

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    thank patriot act1:idea:
     
  6. Dick Quickwood

    Dick Quickwood 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Aug 25, 2002 Messages: 14,783 Likes Received: 14
    i know, but how do they actually do it ? do they contact the mail server or whatever you call it ?
     
  7. B_As_In_Bot

    B_As_In_Bot Elite Member

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    I back Iraq..Saddam Fucked your mom..GOOOOOO Islam!
     
  8. TheStudMuffn

    TheStudMuffn New Jack

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    i wouldnt doubt it arcel if they had some agrement or some crap like that, if not those heartless bastards can do it anyways without being detected
     
  9. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    why does this seem so overly pre-packaged and simplified? why would dude go through all the work of plotting against america, then simply 'give in'? i'm not saying it's not true, i'm just saying his confession, or more to the point, our governments news of his confession, is hardly worth batting an eyebrow at.
    what does al qaeda need sleeping bags for? so they can camp out in front of strip clubs, for allah.

    seeks/homecoming chicken/roost/party
     
  10. Dick Quickwood

    Dick Quickwood 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Aug 25, 2002 Messages: 14,783 Likes Received: 14
    no shit, if you have aol on the welcome screen it has a big blown up picture of the guys face with the headline "terror plotter right next door"
     
  11. NOUM

    NOUM Elite Member

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    the whole thing makes no sence whats so ever..
     
  12. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    after reading so much about israeli mossad groups, organizing fake 'al qaida' cells, im incredibly skeptical of anything 'al qaida' related.


    seeking/boycott israel
     
  13. Kettiecat

    Kettiecat Senior Member

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    Its not so hard to beleive that an American would hate their country and want to fuck soem shit up for fame....
     
  14. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    well, firstly, he isnt an 'american' by birth, blue eyed and blond hair, like they portray it as. he's from kashmir and only became a citizen in 99. but also, bin-laden was notorious for being incredibly hard to get to, and selective of who he let around him. it is very suspect, that he would find cell phones and sleeping bags to be soooooo important, that he would need to meet with this guy, when any number of his henchmen, would suffice. also, if al-qaida were so organized, and such a threat, why would they rely on an 'outsider' as he clearly was, to supply them with simple tools they could have purchased nearly anywhere? acetyline torches are not hard to come by.
    it just reaks of 'see, it's still not safe, lock your doors and close your eyes as we strip your freedoms'...
     
  15. i wouldnt know the first hing about that shit but seeking makes sense...all the other stuff just doesnt.

    Welcome to demonisation
     
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