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NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS

Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by TrustEvil, Jul 1, 2002.

  1. TrustEvil

    TrustEvil Guest

    Last summer everyone and their retarded brother were getting their panties in a bunch over the numbers game....how important it was to be the next onorok or worms or whoever the fuck it was...just curious if that's still the "in" thing this year....someone posted about Sigh having rocked 500 last year, and all I could think to myself was; "what a fucking loser, he really needs to get a life and do something else with some of that free time". Granted it's important to be dedicated to what you love doing, but at a certain point you gotta draw the line and branch out a little. I'll be the first to admit I got wrapped up in the numbers game for a minute, but then I woke up and realized that shit wasn't in the least bit important, numbers have nothing to do with why I continue to paint.....in fact with the way the internet works, I could paint 5 trains a year and still be fucking famous...am I alone in my sentiments towards this issue ? I doubt it, but even if I am, who gives a shit.
     
  2. Merdle

    Merdle Guest

    I hear ya. I keep count of my trains for personal reasons, so I can look back at the old freight log when I'm 90 and reminise. But I find that If I'm painting 5 trans a night so I can say I did, the quality of the work and the feeling is gone. Its more like a chore then a hobby. I find it much more rewarding to just paint when I feel like it, weather it be 10 trains a week or not even one. I personally think most writers with lots of numbers are somewhat stagnent with their work. They do the same thing over and over with dofferent colors and shit. Thats just me though.
     
  3. SPFlatty

    SPFlatty Member

    Joined: Apr 12, 2002 Messages: 747 Likes Received: 0
    haha, i hate seeing cats that do the same bullshit over and over. it's as if the freights have become the streets and kids are just doing throw ups and calling them freights. most of that shit just gets covered up anyway. i didn't start painting freights to see a bunch of throw ups, i got into this shit when all you saw was burners. nowadays, there's so much crap on these things the only way to rock is to go over some small ass bullshit throwie a little sorry ass piece. one a night, that's all. if you don't burn yourself out on your piece then you didn't give it all you got. why embarass yourself with a tiny piece of your heart when you can open eyes with the whole damn thing exposed...
     
  4. mopius

    mopius Guest

    blah blah blah....the only thing that matters is that your having fun
     
  5. 0three

    0three Guest

    unfortunately last year i got involved in the number game and now i look back at some of the shit i did and noticed how my pieces sucked, all for the sake of getting my name on as many fr8s as i could...this year, as someone pointed out, i just have fun with it...id like to be known as someone who has consitantly painted average amount of fr8s...rather then a guy whos a household name and has thousands of fr8s but the quality lacks a bit on half of them...i think its great that sigh painted 500 fr8s last year but personally thats something i wouldnt want to do or attempt that...i just try and paint for myself
     
  6. hobbesv2

    hobbesv2 Member

    Joined: Oct 21, 2000 Messages: 651 Likes Received: 0
    i tend to paint in spurts. some flurry of activity for a month or two and then it's back to this (sorta) steady stream of 2-3 every other weekend. i'm not real sure what causes this...part of it must be a numbers thing - it'd be a lie if i said painting for me has nothing to do with that. which isn't to say i've churned out some record amount. anyway.

    personally i put in more work when i wanna separate from my "real" life. those times that i get up most mark me being content the least. when i'm happy there's less reason to rock.
     
  7. Raw fish

    Raw fish Member

    Joined: Apr 10, 2000 Messages: 868 Likes Received: 2
    Ive only done five this year. Last year, every time I painted it was a freight, I think I did 5 walls. This year, its the other way around.

    I would much rather do freight, but doing only that made my style really lopsided, I would stand in front of a wall and have no idea what to do. I dont consider myselfy missing out on all the freight I could be doing, I consider it an oppurtunity to get better all around. When it comes down to it, Im doing this for me. I would love to do a ton of freight, but in the end, its more important to me to improve my skill as much as I can, and be a more well rounded writer.
     
  8. porque

    porque Senior Member

    Joined: May 5, 2002 Messages: 1,844 Likes Received: 0
    ...maybe i'm reading this wrong...but it sounds like some of you guys are trying to say that sigh did 500 pieces and they are all half-ass...well let me tell you that that is bull shit...sigh does quality pieces everytime... yes the outlines are similar on them, but so what...they're definately not throw-ups, or two colors... some people become addicted to painting, that's all you can think about, and eventually your city runs out of walls, but the freights keep coming... some people are definately in the numbers game, especially around my way, and i know people that already have 300 freights this year... and it's not about just doing some simple shit on a train to get your name up it's about doing high quality pieces so people see your shit and remember you... being able to do 300-500 quality freights in a year is definately an acomplishment...but it should always be about having fun and i believe anyone that paints that much enjoys it...if it's not your thing, that's cool, but don't knock people that are out there busting there ass with a passion you can not understand..
     
  9. fr8oholic

    fr8oholic Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 23, 2000 Messages: 9,256 Likes Received: 2
    let's take a sidetrack here, shall we?

    i like sigh. i see alot of stuff that's similar by him but to be honest his stuff looks like he's having fun. that counts for a lot in my book.
     
  10. kode

    kode Junior Member

    Joined: Jun 6, 2002 Messages: 166 Likes Received: 1
    IT'S ALL A NUMBERS GAME. REMEMBER IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING UP. THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE DO THIS.







    GET UP!!!:D
     
  11. Mr.C-Walk

    Mr.C-Walk Member

    Joined: Feb 17, 2002 Messages: 870 Likes Received: 1
    i feel ya....
     
  12. TrustEvil

    TrustEvil Guest

    shit, ya'll beat me to it...i was just gonna say that sigh doesn't half-ass anything, burners or two-colors (he does em plenty like everyone else).
    i think the real issue at hand is where do you draw the line before you become a graffiti robot as opposed to a graffiti writer.
     
  13. blahblahblah

    blahblahblah Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 30, 2001 Messages: 5,527 Likes Received: 0
    ummm...since when did a burner have to be more than two colors?
     
  14. Southern kid

    Southern kid Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 19, 2000 Messages: 3,965 Likes Received: 0
    somewhat? psshhh. i wont step on any toes but i know i have a lot less respect for some writers just because of this. deep down i know they can rock it if they wanted to but they're too worried about their little stamps so they can be seen. personally..i'd rather be stopped once and have the kids memory of it be "hell yeah that shit was ill." instead of seeing a stamp "oh..i've caught that same stamp 10 times." just me..but...it makes sense in my head.
     
  15. Graff Jesus

    Graff Jesus Guest

    damn you graffiti politicians... i'll say it. FUCK YOU GRAFFITI FACTORIES. change your shit up dammit - ITS BORING. i'd rather be known for shocking the house when i make an appearance rather than just showing up every day with some "ho-hum" shit.

    what happened to actually trying to advance your skills? any jackass with spare time can go out every night and write on some trains. i'm only interested in the fresh stuff.
     
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