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Now that it's out, let's discuss Fahrenheit 9/11.

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Poop Man Bob, Jun 26, 2004.

  1. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

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    I saw it yesterday with my woman at 4:20 pm. The line was light when I got there about 45 minutes in advance, but there were still about 20 people ahead of us. The lady working the front told us that the previous showings had sold out, so I was glad to be there early. The audience was a pretty good mixture of young/old and black/white (and all shades in between).

    As cliche as it might sound, I laughed, cried, and sat in blank silence. The movie starts off discussing the Saudi-Bush ties, moves onto the Patriot Act, and then to the Iraq war. It is a completely damning indictment of the Bush administration. I find it hard to believe that anyone could leave a theater after watching that movie and not hate Bush and his band of cronies. But then again, I am biased, and the movie merely served to reinforce my already existing ideas and beliefs. I still feel it would push anyone on the fence over to the anti-Bush side.

    Obviously, the movie has an agenda. It is not an unbiased discussion of America post-9/11. Moore wants Bush out of office, and it clearly comes through in the movie ... so don't go expecting an analytical view of the administration.

    Plus, it seems as though I'm not the only one to see the movie. It won the Friday box office wars, taking in an estimated $8.2 million (with White Chicks [$6.7] coming in at #2).



    In case you have yet to see the trailer, click here.
     
  2. Dr. Dazzle

    Dr. Dazzle Veteran Member

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    I'll probably go and see it this week. Even though it's a completely biased, one sided view of a much wider topic....
     
  3. T=E=A=S=E

    T=E=A=S=E Elite Member

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    i guess im going to have to jump on the michael moore band wagon and start seeing some of this yuppies movies. haha.

    hate feeling like im missing out.

    i havent seen F. 9/11 yet but the commercial i caught of him asking poiticians to sign up their kids to go help out in the war was hilarious.
     
  4. fermentor666

    fermentor666 Veteran Member

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    I'm seeing it when I go to work on Monday. People have been calling us about it nonstop for the past two weeks, when I was working Wednesday we were getting probably 10 calls an hour about the film and getting tickets. I work in a independant art theater just outside the city and in the past 3 years no film has had this much interest at our theater on opening weekend. I don't like Michael Moore, but I like Bush even less, so I am interested in seeing this film. I'll weigh in later.
     
  5. ODS-1

    ODS-1 Elite Member

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    Although on my dial up connection it was a series of still photos with audio, I'm fucking speechless. I need to see it.
     
  6. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

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    1) What was the volume of calls you received from people telling you not to show the movie? From what I've read online, there was a big movement by the right to get theaters to not even bring the movie there. The right: why let people choose, when we can choose for them?

    2) Don't let your dislike of Moore prevent you from seeing the movie. He consciously doesn't put himself in front of the camera as much as previous films, instead letting the footage/facts speak for itself. He's only in front of the camera a few times during the movie.
     
  7. ODS-1

    ODS-1 Elite Member

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  8. Æ°

    Æ° Senior Member

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    Yeah, there is definitely an effort to make you think a certain way about things when you walk out of that movie. But I thought it was great, Like Mr. Moore said himself, if I want the other side of the coin I can just turn on the TV at any given time. The crowd at the showing I attended was of a very diverse age. A cop came into the theatre, threatened to arrest a woman for disorderly conduct and made her leave the theatre because she was handing out bumper stickers that said, "No more bullshit! No more Bush!" Everyone started to boo, and at least a dozen people got up, demanded refunds for the tickets, and left after that. The film managed to make me want to cry one minute, and then 2 seconds later I'm laughing my ass off. Afterwards my friends and I hung out in the parking lot and talked about it for an hour or so. I wasn't sure if I wanted to start blowing shit up or give everyone in sight a hug afterwards, I had this unusual energy about me for the rest of the night.
     
  9. oneeightyone

    oneeightyone Senior Member

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    Saw it last night, incredible movie, it is biased as it shows through that moore wants bush out of office, i agree 100%, i went to watch it with a republican friend of mine, he was in awe.
    I loved this movie based on the fact that yes, if i turn on the tv, i am hit with the republican bullshit every single time, it's nice to see this, there was talk on the morale of the troops getting shot down due to a film like this getting released at a time like this, what do you all think about that?

    On another note, starting july 1st, the police in my state will the the authority to ask for legal status of anybody they wish to ask, meaing that me, being a spanish gentleman, can be walking down the street and i can get detained if i dont carry my greencard with me, so that essentially means that i have to carry a "get out of jail card' , and it also means that racial profiling will now be legal,....it falls under the homeland security , patriot act bullshit, to keep terrorist away, but ask yourself this, if there's a redneck fucking cop, who knows he has the power to kick out any , latino, african, middle eastern person from this country, even though they might be here busting their ass to survive, what do you think he will do? Abuse of power maybe... and those that say asian and european immigrants are also here on the illegal tip...who do you all really think will be asked for documents? Piere Le'fout from france or jhonny sanchez from fucking nicaragua?


    The film was good, i had to put my diatribe in there.
     
  10. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    i saw it last night, pretty much the exact scenario as you poop.
    after sitting through 10 commercials
    of complete garbage(the new richard gere/jlo movie
    looks like a rrrreeal winner), people finally settled and shut up.
    the movie: there were
    parts that i laughed my ass off, usually at bush(i regret to admit that there
    is something endearing about the fucker in the context of this film...also, john
    asscroft singing was truly fucking hilarious/disturbing, among many other examples), and footage that i had only the slightest idea about..
    which really drove home how perverted and sick american 'democracy'
    has become under the tutelage of people that are so out of touch with your
    working class american that its practically a farce.
    and lipscombe..wow. i kept thinking as i watched what it would be like to be
    in a theatre full of people like her, who have/had family members active or
    layed up in a hospital missing limbs or dead.
    it's a pretty forceful presentation that i think will definitely get pro-bush people
    thinking(if they have any semblance of logic and aren't robotic).
    i'm glad he dissed the dems too, good move.
    people are going to see this film in big numbers. hopefully people get out, vote,
    and bring justice to these sonofabitchez.
     
  11. LaCosaNostra

    LaCosaNostra Senior Member

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    Yea, I totally wanted to go blow shit up. It was so goddamn powerful, I cringed and looked away at alot of the photos from Iraq. I wanted to shoot the solider in the face that said," Burn, burn; let the motherfucker burn, burn motherfucker burn...," and when the recited Let the bodies hit the floor, you have no idea how pissed I was....I loved how he had pvt. Pederson's(or whatever) mom, before and after he was killed. Lots of "LoL"s
     
  12. LaCosaNostra

    LaCosaNostra Senior Member

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    * Everybody should get Immortal Technique- Revolutionary Volume 2 if they liked this movie; he is fucking amazing...
     
  13. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    really? that's callous man..
     
  14. LaCosaNostra

    LaCosaNostra Senior Member

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    It's not that I loved how he got killed, not at all. But just how much she changed after it acutally hit home.

    *not sure if I understadnt your use of callous/...

    *edit: not laughs at he being killed. just in general, ashcroft singing etc.
     
  15. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    ahh...sorry dude, my bad. seemed like you were saying it was funny
    that she went from pro-war to being completely crushed
    into a black hole of grief.
     
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