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North Korea Admits to Having nukes.

Discussion in 'News' started by bobthebuilder, Feb 10, 2005.

  1. bobthebuilder

    bobthebuilder Member

    Joined: Nov 15, 2004 Messages: 295 Likes Received: 1
    SEOUL, South Korea - North Korea announced for the first time Thursday it has nuclear weapons, and it rejected moves to restart disarmament talks anytime soon, saying the bombs are protection against an increasingly hostile United States.

    The communist state's statement dramatically raised the stakes in the 2-year-old nuclear confrontation and posed a grave challenge to President Bush, who started his second term with a vow to end North Korea's nuclear program through six-nation talks.

    "We ... have manufactured nukes for self-defense to cope with the Bush administration's evermore undisguised policy to isolate and stifle the (North)," the North Korean Foreign Ministry said in a statement carried by the state-run Korean Central News Agency. The news agency used the colloquial term "nukes" in its English-language account.

    The claim could not be independently verified. North Korea expelled the last U.N. nuclear monitors in late 2002. It is not known to have tested an atomic bomb, although international officials have long suspected it has one or two nuclear weapons.

    The CIA has estimated that with a highly enriched uranium weapons program and the use of sophisticated high-speed centrifuges, North Korea could be making more. Some analysts and observers have put the estimate at six to eight.

    Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the North had no reason to believe the United States would attack.

    "The North Koreans have been told by the president of the United States that the United States has no intention of attacking or invading North Korea," Rice said in Luxembourg. "There is a path for the North Koreans that would put them in a more reasonable relationship with the rest of the world."

    Previously, North Korea told international negotiators in closed-door talks that it had nuclear weapons and might test one of them, South Korean officials say. The North's U.N. envoy told reporters last year the country had "weaponized" plutonium from its pool of 8,000 nuclear spent fuel rods. Those rods contained enough plutonium for several bombs.

    But Thursday's statement was North Korea's first public announcement that it has nuclear weapons.

    North Korea said Thursday its "nuclear weapons will remain (a) nuclear deterrent for self-defense under any circumstances."

    It said Washington's alleged attempt to topple the North's regime "compels us to take a measure to bolster its nuclear weapons arsenal in order to protect the ideology, system, freedom and democracy chosen by its people."

    Since 2003, the United States, the two Koreas, China, Japan and Russia have held three rounds of talks in Beijing aimed at persuading the North to abandon nuclear weapons development in return for economic and diplomatic rewards. No significant progress has been made.

    A fourth round scheduled for September 2004 was canceled when North Korea refused to attend, citing what it called a "hostile" U.S. policy.

    "After its previous claims had failed to draw enough attention, North Korea now seeks to make people take it more seriously, create an atmosphere of crisis and make its negotiating partners pay more in order to persuade it to give up its nuclear capabilities," a senior South Korean official said on condition of anonymity.

    South Korea said Thursday the North's decision to stay away from talks was "seriously regrettable," and it repeated its previous estimate that Pyongyang has enough plutonium to build one or two nuclear bombs.

    "We once again urge North Korea to rejoin the six-party talks without conditions so that it can discuss whatever differences it has with the United States and other participants," South Korean Foreign Ministry spokesman Lee Kyu-hyung said. "We express our strong concern with the North Korean statement that it has nuclear weapons and we again declare our stance that we will never tolerate North Korea possessing nuclear weapons."

    In London, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan also urged North Korea to rejoin the talks, and he asked the other five nations to help.

    "I expect that with efforts by the other countries involved, North Korea could be brought back to the table," Annan said following talks with British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Foreign Secretary Jack Straw.

    Russia's Foreign Ministry criticized North Korea's statement and strongly urged it to return to the negotiations.

    North Korea's move "can only cause regret," the ministry said, adding that Moscow respects Pyongyang's concern about its safety but believes "that the problem should be resolved through negotiations rather than arms race, especially nuclear arms race."

    The Chinese Foreign Ministry's chief spokesman, Kong Quan, said in a statement on the ministry's Web site that Beijing hopes the six-nation talks will continue.

    "We consistently advocate the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula and the preservation of the peninsula's peace and stability," the statement said.

    The British government said it was deeply concerned by the announcement by North Korea, also known as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

    "It would be a major mistake for the DPRK were they to go down that route," Straw said in a joint news conference with Annan.

    In recent weeks, hopes had risen that North Korea might return to the six-nation talks, especially after Bush refrained from any direct criticism of North Korea when he started his second term last month. During his first term, Bush said North Korea was part of an "axis of evil" with Iran and prewar Iraq.

    On Thursday, North Korea said it decided not to rejoin such talks anytime soon after studying Bush's inaugural and State of the Union speeches and after Rice labeled North Korea one of the "outposts of tyranny."

    "We have wanted the six-party talks but we are compelled to suspend our participation in the talks for an indefinite period till we have recognized that there is justification for us to attend the talks and there are ample conditions and atmosphere to expect positive results from the talks," the North Korean Foreign Ministry said.

    Still, North Korea said it retained its "principled stand to solve the issue through dialogue and negotiations and its ultimate goal to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula remain unchanged."

    Such a comment has widely been interpreted as a negotiating tactic to get more economic and diplomatic concessions from the United States before joining any crucial talks. North Korea wants economic compensation and security guarantees in return for abandoning its nuclear pursuit.

    For months, it has lashed out at what it calls U.S. attempts to demolish the regime of leader Kim Jong Il and meddle in the human rights situation in the North. Washington has said it wants to resolve the nuclear talks through dialogue.

    In his inaugural speech, Bush vowed that his new administration would not shrink from "the great objective of ending tyranny" around the globe.

    In his State of the Union address, Bush only mentioned North Korea once, saying Washington was "working closely with governments in Asia to convince North Korea to abandon its nuclear ambitions."

    Last week, Michael Green, the National Security Council's senior director for Asian affairs, visited the region to relay Bush's desire to restart the diplomatic process to the leaders of China, South Korea and Japan.

    The nuclear crisis began in 2002 when U.S. officials accused North Korea of running a secret uranium-enrichment program in violation of international treaties. Washington and its allies cut off free fuel oil shipments delivered to the impoverished country under a 1994 deal with the United States.

    North Korea retaliated by quitting the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty in early 2003 and restarting its plutonium-based nuclear weapons program, which had been frozen under the 1994 agreement.

    After Iraq is over, we WILL be going in there to hand little in jums ass to him. They are a threat to the S Korean people... also have capability to deploy nukes to the islands of Hawaii and the cities of California.
  2. ODS-1

    ODS-1 Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 21, 2003 Messages: 3,575 Likes Received: 0
    What the hell do you know?
  3. villain

    villain Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2002 Messages: 5,190 Likes Received: 2
    Well what's new?
    Kim Jong Il admitted to having nukes like 2 years ago or something. And he also said if he is invaded he will blow the whole damn world up.
    Somehow, I believe him.
  4. !@#$%

    [email protected]#$% Moderator Crew

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 18,517 Likes Received: 623
    well, it's a goshdarn shame we are so tied up in Iraq, or else we might actually be able to do something about an ACTUAL THREAT.


    i can't wait to blow up.
  5. Æ°

    Æ° Senior Member

    Joined: May 12, 2002 Messages: 1,974 Likes Received: 6
    They're safe now.

    The US government doesn't attack countries that have weapons of mass destruction.
  6. PaperbackWriter

    PaperbackWriter Senior Member

    Joined: Mar 13, 2001 Messages: 1,618 Likes Received: 0
    True enough, because that wouldn't fit into our rhetoric of preventive war now, would it? Notice I didn't say pre-emptive..
  7. ledzep

    ledzep Junior Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2002 Messages: 146 Likes Received: 1
    It's kinda funny how when Saddam said he didn't have weapons the USA didn't believe him and invaded.

    ...And now that N. korea says it has weapons, the USA doesn't believe them so probably wont invade.

    POIESIS Member

    Joined: Aug 10, 2004 Messages: 879 Likes Received: 0
    in peripheral news, the ideological joke that is missile
    defense (sorry, i meanson of missile defense) just
    flopped yet another test run on the heels of NK's official
    announcement. this was supposed to be up and running
    last september...what's another $85million of taxpayer
    cash up in smoke?
    you can thank cheney, gingrich, perle etcetry for their
    amazing discipline in democratic contempt, corruption and
  9. Weapon X

    Weapon X 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Sep 6, 2002 Messages: 14,905 Likes Received: 202
    Damn, they can't even build cars right, but they can build six to eight nukes.
  10. dojafx

    dojafx Member

    Joined: Nov 20, 2001 Messages: 831 Likes Received: 0
    those dudes should be able to have whatever they want, weather its nukes or chocolate baby jesus' or whatever.



    1. Self-governing; independent: a sovereign state.
    2. Having supreme rank or power: a sovereign prince.
    3. Paramount; supreme: Her sovereign virtue is compassion.

    the definition thats important is number one.
    skeet skeet skeet.
  11. GnomeToys

    GnomeToys Elite Member

    Joined: Jun 24, 2003 Messages: 2,616 Likes Received: 4
    This had me laughing.
  12. ASER1NE

    ASER1NE Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 15, 2001 Messages: 7,578 Likes Received: 3
    I wonder when the innvasion starts ?