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NIGGER +feelings

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by metallix, May 5, 2003.

  1. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 7, 2001 Messages: 2,955 Likes Received: 1
    I will try to be as accurate as possible describing the scenario which has just occurred:

    In my Poetry Class, People were speaking on the podium today to an audience of 30 people composed of the students of the class. This is a college class with a college professor. Anyway one student reads a poem about Masks, and how people wear differen't masks to disguise themselves (social masks.) So at the end i ask the speaker this question:

    Me: "How do you feel about wiggers?"

    Her: "Whats a wigger"

    Me: "A wigger is a white nigger"

    Then my professor said "thats offensive offensive comments are not welcome" "you are welcome to leave now." So i left the classroom.

    When I said the word "nigger" a few black people made noises as if they were offended. I am just wondering on other people's feelings regarding this and if my words were truely inappropriate. And if there is anything wrong with offensive speech.

    Personally I feel that
    A)My question was relevant in the context of social masks
    B)The professor previously established that offensive speech was permissible.
    C)I did not use the term towards a specific person, rather generalized question. Anyway..lets hear it :scowl:
     
  2. some pittsburgh flavor

    some pittsburgh flavor Elite Member

    Joined: Mar 31, 2001 Messages: 4,936 Likes Received: 0
    i don't think a wigger is a white "nigger" by any means. a wigger would try to act/dress/talk how a majority of mainstream black teens/younger adults would do so. such is the case with white kids and FUBU, white kids and Jay-Z, white kids and a predominately "ghetto" accent. the word nigger means nothing. it is a hateful word meaning "black person who is bad because of their skin color". i think you could have better described a wigger as saying "a white kid trying to act like a stereotype of the opposite skin color". i think it's damn near impossible to try to be a "nigger".

    i don't like the word, personally. it implies nothing but hate when coming from a white/asian/non-black person. it's evolved into a sort of communal friendship word in the black community. in oh, the 1930s, it would be common to hear one black male say to the other "come on nigger, wake up" as opposed to "come on 'dude' wake up, man" or something of that nature.
     
  3. some pittsburgh flavor

    some pittsburgh flavor Elite Member

    Joined: Mar 31, 2001 Messages: 4,936 Likes Received: 0
    and yeah... 1000 posts....

    *hi-five*
     
  4. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2000 Messages: 6,979 Likes Received: 2
    I think that was a loaded question and that you could learn a thing or two about tact.

    You must have know tht the response wouldn't have been positive and
    should have tailored your question to be relevent and more than just inflamitory.
     
  5. 2slim

    2slim Member

    Joined: Jun 16, 2001 Messages: 892 Likes Received: 1
    yo man...everybody on this forum will problly hate on you for daring to speak the forbidden word,but who cares...a wigger is a white nigger...i am a firm beleiver that there is a difference between black people and niggers....let the hating begin...
     
  6. fr8lover

    fr8lover Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 22, 2000 Messages: 3,919 Likes Received: 1
    exactly.

    when i was younger we would always use the word "wigger" and for some reason i didnt even put it together that it came from "nigger" (i am an idiot).

    its just not a real pc thing to say, especially in a class. the speech that you described sounds like it had almost nothing to do with it, either.

    show some respect, use common sense, and dont say shit just to get some shock value out of it. do you honestly think youd get some sort of intelligent discussion going after a question like that?
     
  7. i dunno, if wigger is appropriate to use, so is nigger. Nigger may be a bad word, but its so used it shouldnt be a taboo anymore...i wouldnt call anyone nigger but i wouldnt say 'person of the opossite color' to disguise what i meant either. You used a term that wasnt directed at anyone particulary and above all you did it in a class that its all about useage of language in everyform as long as it carries the message. A wigger is a white nigger indeed, explains were the word comes from to.

    Your teacher sucks ass, and the black people that get offended by the word nigger under the given circumstances are stupid.


    On a sidenote, being a euro i wouldnt really know how 'nigger' translates in america, how bad it is to use...if i'm being ignorant please correct me..but the main popular export of the black american community in europe and the rest of the world is the 'nigga this/nigga that rap'....
     
  8. mental invalid

    mental invalid Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 11, 2001 Messages: 13,050 Likes Received: 8
    "I think that was a loaded question and that you could learn a thing or two about tact.

    You must have know tht the response wouldn't have been positive and
    should have tailored your question to be relevent and more than just inflamitory"


    bingo.....


    have fun getting jumped by basketball team dumbass........you deserve every lump........:D
     
  9. VAITOMANOCU

    VAITOMANOCU Member

    Joined: Apr 30, 2002 Messages: 711 Likes Received: 0
    wigger is like 12 year old talk. i just think it oversimplifies things a little too much..maybe you coulda asked why the hip hop culture has caught on to so many middle to upper class whites living in the burbs? or something like that...it might sound just as dumb but i just feel that it would speak to the entire classroom, then people would want to say how they feel and boom, you have a nice discussion going. what do i know though, i don't take any classes like that.
     
  10. hulk hogan

    hulk hogan Member

    Joined: Oct 31, 2001 Messages: 648 Likes Received: 0
    there' black folk. and niggas.

    i fuckin hate niggas

    sometimes i wish i could join the KKK and kill all dese niggas
     
  11. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2000 Messages: 6,979 Likes Received: 2
    yes. My point exactly. That's the tactfull way of saying the same thing.

    And remember... The question usually says more about the the person
    asking than the person replying. There was this one girl in one of my clases
    who would always ask questions that she already knew the answer.
    Eventually the teacher said something like 'Quit trying to look smart'.
     
  12. mr.yuck

    mr.yuck Veteran Member

    Joined: May 12, 2000 Messages: 6,952 Likes Received: 6

    come on please, that is bullshit. I have been called nigga or nigger at least 50 times a day by black people. I am white as can be. I dont even know how this started because, well, I'm not your wigger stereotype. I don't "act" like i'm black or "dress" like a black person or any of this types of shit.

    But when i am with black people its almost as if i am black. Like everyone forgets im white. They'll start crackin jokes about white people and shit and when i start laughing they'll be like "SHUT UP NIGGA, you know you ain't white."

    If one of them were to make a crack about my mom or girl or somethin and i raised up and said "Fuck you nigga." It wouldn't be a problem. I think that people are just way to oversensative about everything these days. just calm down. i've been called everything in the book that deals with white people but i dont run around crying racism and boo hoo i cant get a fair break because i have a long criminal record.

    i dont understand what is happening to america these days. people need to grow up i guess. but at the same time the pendulum can only swing so far before it starts to come back.



    METALLIX

    I DONT THINK WHAT YOU SAID WAS WRONG IN ANY WAY. I understand that you meant white kids hiding behind blackstereotypes. I think that your professor is a little cowering bitch. Scared of real discussion but then again the way things go these days all it would take is one tight ass uncle tom to complain on him and he probably would have lost his job.
     
  13. T.T Boy

    T.T Boy Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 18, 2001 Messages: 21,803 Likes Received: 40
    nigger, chink, gook, wop, wog, honkey, wagon burner, who fucking cares! really.
    call me a stupid cracker ass cracka. ill just be like "yeah exactly".
    why do people get so bent out of shape over name calling. its just words. harmless. besides, the word nigger isnt even bad anymore. id say porch monkey would be more of an insult.

    go ahead call me a stupid cracker. see how much i e-care.
     
  14. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 7, 2001 Messages: 2,955 Likes Received: 1
    Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
    nigger
    n : ethnic slur; offensive name for Black person [syn: spade, coon, jigaboo, nigra]
    nig·ger ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ngr)
    n. Offensive Slang

    HMM. OK Kilo7 has a point with tact. However it is also a poetry class. It seems to me people got upset just by me saying the word NIGGER. I feel stupid now for saying it and ofcourse could have phrased the question differently. God forbid I say something which might possibly offend someone. I'll probably feel the ramifications of this later on, no doubt reflecting in my grades. Next time I'll just have to be more politically correct.
     
  15. Grandola

    Grandola Senior Member

    Joined: Jul 16, 2002 Messages: 1,773 Likes Received: 0
    you should have told them all before you left how big of a pussy they all were for getting offended by words. i hate niggas like that.
     
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