Guest railroadjerk Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 January 7, 2003 N.M. Graffiti Vandal Gives Up His Car By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 2:38 p.m. ET ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) -- There'll be no more fun, fun, fun for one of Albuquerque's biggest graffiti vandals now that the mayor's taken his T-bird away. ********, blamed by city officials for graffiti at 250 sites across New Mexico's largest city, handed over his keys and title to his 1987 Ford Thunderbird to Mayor Martin Chavez during a news conference Monday. ***** also gave the mayor a check for $1,500 and will make monthly payments for a year as part of a restitution agreement with the city. ***** agreed to pay a total of $4,500 plus the car. ``I now understand that this form of expression is not acceptable,'' he said. The mayor said the episode should send the message that the city will pursue graffiti vandals and sue them for money to clean up the damage. ``These are not harmless kids. This is a serious category of offense,'' Chavez said. Albuquerque has collected about $31,000 from 57 people, including about 15 parents of young people blamed for graffiti, said Pete Dinelli, deputy city attorney. He called ***** the biggest graffiti vandal caught in the crackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melty Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 good for the judge! good job judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of sam Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 an 87 t-bird is a shitty car anyway worth about 500 bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HAL Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 What does this guy's car have to do with him painting? That sounds completely retarded, and I can't believe it made the paper. Albuquerque doesn't have bigger news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 well i am an anarchist and i am an antichrist and i dont know what i want but i know where to get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest exhibitone Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 an idiot writter in a stupid city i would of made them make some effort to catch me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killtheradio Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 shits lame as fuck cars arnt graff related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 It says right in the article, they took the car because he owed them money for restitution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGSOE Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Originally posted by exhibitone an idiot writter in a stupid city i would of made them make some effort to catch me well, although i am far from my home town, i still get a little pissed when people diss it. you obviously have no idea the caliber of writers coming out of albq. name dropping is for the birds, so do some research tuff guy. this guys style is anything but, but he crushed every inch of the city. more scribes then i've seen since i was about 18. the kid has balls enough for 20 writer's. it took them about 5 years to catch up to the guy, and even then they had to sue, they couldn't get enough evidence to file criminal charges. and as some of us know, they don't need evidence to sue. when i was 16 i was sued there for 60 thousand, but won thank the credit gods... if you don't know now you know, nigga....... *edit* i bumped a thread for people who are oblivious to burque, go to brick slayers, "early albuquerque, the hidden graff gem" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InDY_500 Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 Originally posted by son of sam an 87 t-bird is a shitty car anyway worth about 500 bucks exactly.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mugshot Posted February 6, 2003 Share Posted February 6, 2003 so he spraint paints a wall and that makes it ok for the judge to basically carjack him. fuck that shit, lets all bomb new mexico even harder now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tofu Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 Damn, it seems like they'd want to let him keep the car so he can get to and from work easily so as to make money to pay his restitution with... By the way, I'm from Albuquerque, too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGSOE Posted February 7, 2003 Share Posted February 7, 2003 Originally posted by Tofu Damn, it seems like they'd want to let him keep the car so he can get to and from work easily so as to make money to pay his restitution with... By the way, I'm from Albuquerque, too :) odale burqueno!! e-mail me, we'll talk ese... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*SIZEROKS* Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 ALBUQUERQUE USED TO BE FRESH....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 they don't need evidence to sue? surely they must need something to incriminate him with? i mean, you can obviously press charges against someone, but without showing proper evidence... i don't exactly understand how the city could have won a case. someone please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGSOE Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 Originally posted by casekonly they don't need evidence to sue? surely they must need something to incriminate him with? i mean, you can obviously press charges against someone, but without showing proper evidence... i don't exactly understand how the city could have won a case. someone please explain. well, in albq. politicians and police practice crookedry as a way of dealing with things they can't seem to get a grasp of. if they can't bring a conviction, they will do what it takes to get your money, ie; bribed juries, judges who are really against what sort of crime is being committed, etc. we call them a gang, for that's exactly what they are. about a year ago i was spotted hitting a mop tag by a rookie cop. he pulled up to me, handcuffed me and threw me in his car. then we drove around the neighborhood till we got to a secluded area. 4 more cops arrived and they beat the hell out of me and then covered my face arms and legs with the mop, and made me walk home, like 10 miles. it was better then jail, but dirty as hell. if they want you they will get you, it's not like they care about you or your rights. they simply make the jury beleive you did it through trickery. people who have done nothing are sued constantly in albq., not just graff related. you can fight it, but sometimes it's just not your luck to win, guilty or not. i imagine it's the same everywhere... sounds kinda conspiracist theory speaking, but i've watched it happen. and i never said they had no evidence, just that they lacked enough to file criminal charges. in albq., they must catch you in the act to arrest, but lawsuits are running rampant. people's parents are being sued for something they either can't control or they don't know about. it's just weak ass shit any way you look at it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted February 8, 2003 Share Posted February 8, 2003 how fucked up. the system doesn't work for them, so they modify it to work for them. sounds like the nerdy south...alot of corrupt cops who don't care if you did it or not, they suspect you, for whatever reason and decide that you're the scapegoat. i honestly feel bad for the writers in albuquerque. if you get sued and don't have enough money to afford a good lawyer, even if you aren't really guilty, you lose. the truth is, sometimes it might cost as much to retain a good lawyer as it does to pay off the city. that's how it goes everywhere. thanks for clearing up my question ragsoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGSOE Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Originally posted by casekonly how fucked up. the system doesn't work for them, so they modify it to work for them. sounds like the nerdy south...alot of corrupt cops who don't care if you did it or not, they suspect you, for whatever reason and decide that you're the scapegoat. i honestly feel bad for the writers in albuquerque. if you get sued and don't have enough money to afford a good lawyer, even if you aren't really guilty, you lose. the truth is, sometimes it might cost as much to retain a good lawyer as it does to pay off the city. that's how it goes everywhere. thanks for clearing up my question ragsoe no problem. what most people who lose do is file chapter 11 bankruptcy. fucks your credit for 10 years, but the city eats the tab, and as long as you don't have much material property, you do okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Former Posted February 9, 2003 Share Posted February 9, 2003 Shit that city was clean when I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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