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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by imported_Tesseract, May 17, 2004.

  1. Lately i'm thinking about music,
    my music collection, the music industry, the RIAA and the whole deal of obtaining music for free or not via a computer...lets see

    First of all, MP3's...i wasnt big on mp3's while on 56k...after having a fast connection i started dling stuff only to found out that i dont want anything below 192 kbps...it just sucks ass...i mean its alright when i listen to stuff from my computer but when that shit is burned on an audio cd and played on a proper system, it seriously lacks depth.

    Before dling music i was just borrwing cd's from friends and copy them or even buy a cd from places that allow you to open them, hear them and trade them with something else if you dont like....for every cd bought, 4 were copied. As far as quality goes theres no flaw in that, however...i really enjoy quality booklets, printed disks and classy cd publications. I cant tolerate the idea that an album i really dig lies on my collection with no booklets, no dope covers and of course no $ support from me to the band.

    The options are poor, you can scan/print the whole thing but you will never reach the glossy/professional feeling the original has. Furthermore, when dling from the net you dont even have access to that material.

    I still concider unethical to 'steal' music but definatelly less unethical than the 18-22 euro price tag on every mainstream/new album out there....to keep it short i have no problem downloading music as long as i feel i support small groups and labels.

    The non mainstream shit i listen too (mostly jazz and electronic stuff) run somewhere around 7-9 euros, a price i'm more willing to pay...anything above 15 gets dowloaded...thats my rule.

    On a sidenote i always keep copies of all my cd's for taking with me on the car, vacations and places where they'll end up either lost or torn apart...i use NERO6 and its mp3pro tool for reencoding.

  2. Dick Quickwood

    Dick Quickwood 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Aug 25, 2002 Messages: 14,783 Likes Received: 14
    steal music the old fashioned way

    um, the computer has taken over my CD collection as what i listen to most often, although i've been listening to a couple new CDs for the past couple of days, i had most of the songs on my computer, but i wanted the genuine article, so i spotted 'em on Ebay and grabbed them up. i went through a hassle trying to buy them new on Amazon.com, but that's a story in itself. i think i will obtain an MP3 player some time. what i do, is i look up a group i like on allmusic.com, and it shows similair groups, so i click groups i'm not familiar with, download, and so forth.
  3. I was reading some reviews for this Fennesz album, and I remember one of them talked aboout how nice it was that the publishers took the time and effort to make the CD liner notes (which had photographs by Jon Wozencroft) beautiful enough to make the physical object worth owning as opposed to downloading the music digitally. I thought it was a very interesting observation.

    I've always been a sucker for liner notes, but since my last physical CD purchase (over a year ago) I can't say I miss them that much. I have a little pile in a drawer with all the liner notes of the albums I own, which I can't bear to throw away.

    That said, I'm glad that legal music downloading is finally catching on with the iTunes Music Store. I find myself using it more and more over free p2p's... I think 99¢ is a good price to pay considering the service, speed, and ease-of-use of the store. Still, iTunes accounts for maybe 1 out of 5 of my music downloads. It has been suggested to Apple to slash the prices down to 39¢, since it could make up for it in bulk. I agree, if songs were around the 30¢ range I'd abandon p2p's completely and buy a lot more music.

    I'm not sure if the cost of bandwidth and internet services necessary for digital music distribution rivals the cost of designing, printing, manufacturing, and shipping of physical albums, but I'm guessing it's not as high. It's only natural that the single-song price dips down to reflect this.
  4. Vanity

    Vanity Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 11, 2000 Messages: 7,673 Likes Received: 6
  5. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    ungh.... I have to Dj a friend's wedding in 6 weeks.

    He's setting me up with decks and a mixer and I think I'll bring a laptop with MP3's just so when I need to walk away for a bit I can do so with ease. Maybe a component style CD tray too just for requests or whatever. I'm a little worried about pulling it off. There's nothing like a bad Dj to ruin the mood. However he's not asking for much... "if it's quite, toss on the James Brown".

    haha... and I'll get my girlfriend to teach me how to beat match!!!

  6. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    word to mammy..if there's any umbrella entity deserving of the full
    cost of their 'product', its the touch label. practically everyone on
    the label is touched by genius, and jon wozencroft is just plain the
    fucking man.
    i've always been a huge fan of 'documents'..things that obviously
    took time, intelligence and creativity and have a real tangible beauty
    or originality to them. when digipak's came out for cd's i shit myself. they should
    be law and jewel cases should be destroyed from the face of the earth.
    this is why i will still pay $20-$40 for certain artists/labels, you can just tell
    they put alot of effort into it and they deserve every penny(not to mention they're
    probably barely breaking even from such endeavours).
    that said, my dl habits are almost strictly hiphop and i feel literally zero
    shame for it.
  7. fuckinA brown...btw

  8. for a quick sec i thought you can get blanc digipaks...now that would rock
  9. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    i think that's what they're called..
    its like a cd booklet. they usually have a soft,
    quality matte finish, no plasic ass shit..
    like a mini lp in digi format.
  10. i know what they are, they're are dope...but can you find blank ones
  11. MrChupacabra

    MrChupacabra 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Oct 10, 2001 Messages: 10,940 Likes Received: 683
    I'm pretty shameless when it comes to downloading music, but i still make sure to buy on some occassions. For one thing, i always try to buy the cds from the smaller bands or local bands when i see them play, cuz i know a lot of the guys and i also know that people buying their cds and shirts is the only profit/payback they're getting for all the touring/recording/etc that they're doing.
  12. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    yes they're are..


  13. villain

    villain Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 12, 2002 Messages: 5,190 Likes Received: 2
    People keep trying to rip my music and I'm all like "Hey look these motherfuckers aint rich and famous. They need the support of their fans... " And they are like "whatever". Has ripping music become that much of a plague? It's pretty fucked up cause mostly all I do is work with media and now I have to worry even more about my shit getting fucking gaffled that's fucked up. Guess it's time to focus more on hardware...
  14. McDingflex.
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