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MURDER OF THE DAY

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by BOZACK, Mar 17, 2004.

  1. BOZACK

    BOZACK Member

    Joined: Oct 19, 2003 Messages: 999 Likes Received: 0
    so new orleans averages about a murder a day.
    here is where you may read about them.
    these are from the past 2 or 3 days before we start fresh tomorrow! yay!

    Man may have resisted robbery


    Tuesday March 16, 2004


    By Walt Philbin
    Staff writer

    When McKinley Coleman's wife of 36 years died 18 months ago, he was devastated, said his daughter Lana Coleman. But he rebounded and recently began dating.

    Now family members are reeling again.

    Coleman, 58, was killed outside the door of his girlfriend's home in the Iberville public housing complex Sunday shortly before 10 p.m., police said. They think he was killed when he resisted a robbery attempt by three teenagers.

    He died of a gunshot wound of the chest.

    A longtime resident of the Lower 9th Ward, Coleman was carrying more than $100 when the young thugs caught up to him on a stairwell as he climbed to his girlfriend's apartment, police said.

    Witnesses told investigators they heard an argument, the sounds of a scuffle and then a single gunshot. Two community policing COPS officers in a nearby patrol car heard the gunshot and rushed to the scene, where they were flagged down by a neighbor and directed to the rear hallway of a building in the 300 block of Basin Street.

    The money was still in his pocket, police homicide detective Gary Dupart said. Coleman was shot once in the chest and was pronounced dead on the scene, Dupart said.

    Coleman's girlfriend was inside her apartment and heard the shot, but she didn't see who did it because they had already fled, police said. When she opened her door, she saw Coleman lying in the hall.

    Officers said the youths may have been dealing heroin in the area and robbing people. So far, the suspects have not been identified.

    To his daughter, Coleman was a hero, in part because he used his post-graduate degree in mathematics to teach for many years in the New Orleans public school system. She also admired him for his work with church groups and his fight against blighted housing.

    "My father was an all-around man," she said. "He was active in civic affairs, spending a lot of time lobbying to get the law changed so that something could be done about blighted housing without having to wait forever."

    Allen Stevens, a deacon at St. Philip the Apostle Church, said Coleman was active in church work there and at St. Peter Claver.

    Coleman said her father was born and raised in New Orleans, where he attended George Washington Carver Senior High School. He received a bachelor's degree from Southern University at Baton Rouge and a master's degree in mathematics from Xavier University. He taught at his alma mater, Carver, as well as at Green Middle School, she said.

    He retired in the mid-1990s to pursue carpentry, a weekend hobby. He also worked closely with the church group, All Congregations Together, Lana Coleman said.

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  2. suburbian bum

    suburbian bum 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Jan 30, 2001 Messages: 14,673 Likes Received: 3
    Lesson of the day: Dont try to resist when 3 armed herion dealers try to rob you.
     
  3. BOZACK

    BOZACK Member

    Joined: Oct 19, 2003 Messages: 999 Likes Received: 0
    Police say they acted swiftly after shooting


    Friday March 12, 2004


    By Joan Treadway and Tara Young
    Staff writers

    Leaders of the Vietnamese-American community in the New Orleans area Thursday demanded upgraded help when they dial 911 and more police officers of Vietnamese heritage.

    If those improvements had been in place, they said Mai Thi Nguyen, fatally shot Tuesday in a robbery at her grocery store on Loyola Street, "may have lived," said Quan Huynh, president of the Vietnamese American Community in Louisiana

    The group is an umbrella organization that represents 26 smaller Vietnamese business, civic and religious groups.

    Nguyen, 56, was co-owner of Kim's Supermarket with her husband, Vo Le, 63. Le, who was in their store when his wife was shot, was also on hand at Thursday's news conference led by Huynh, at a Vietnamese business group's eastern New Orleans office.

    Meanwhile, relatives of one of the two young men booked with first-degree murder said the surveillance tape that led to Kenneth Gaines' arrest clearly shows he was not involved. Gaines, 21, was arrested, along with Palmer Jackson, 19, who police say admitted to the shooting. A third suspect has not been identified.

    Jeannette Oliney, Gaines' mother, believes there's no way her son could have participated in the slaying.

    "For one, the camera shows it clearly that he had nothing to do with it," Oliney said.

    In a surveillance tape, Gaines is shown lifting up his hands and leaving the store when one of two masked suspects approached the counter and opened fire.

    "He raised his hands up and backed up," Oliney said. "How can he be charged with first-degree murder? If a video camera can be used to prove guilt, why can't it be used to prove his innocence?"

    The family spent much of Thursday posting fliers in the Central City neighborhood where the slaying occurred, asking anyone with information that may exonerate Gaines to come forward.

    Le recounted what happened Tuesday in the store that he and his wife ran without problems for five years. He said he was back in the kitchen when he heard his wife screaming in the front of the store. He rushed over to find her bleeding "but still breathing."

    Le said he immediately called 911, but because of his spotty English, it took three or four minutes to get his urgent plea for help across. The operator kept making him repeat his name and the store's address and he had to laboriously spell out Loyola, he said.

    After that, it took another 20 to 25 minutes before the police or an ambulance arrived, Le said. Nguyen was finally taken to Charity Hospital, where she died an hour later, he said.

    But Capt. Marlon Defillo, a spokesman for the New Orleans Police Department, disputed parts of that account. Defillo said the call came in at 12:06 p.m.; a police car was dispatched within 60 seconds and it reached the scene at 12:10 p.m.

    "Minutes can seem like hours when a loved one has been injured," Defillo said. "We empathize with the family, but the response time was good."

    As far as the requests from Vietnamese officials, Defillo said the New Orleans police force already includes three Vietnamese-American officers "and we would welcome more."

    One of the officers works exclusively with the Vietnamese community, doing crime prevention training, translation for victims and also recruitment, which resulted in the other two Vietnamese officers, Defillo said.

    Patrick Evans, a City Hall spokesman, said he had no information on the ambulance response time.

    As to the delay that Le said he encountered while trying to communicate with the 911 operator, Evans said: "We are willing to working with any group to find solutions to public safety issues, like language barriers."

    Meanwhile, Cindy Nguyen, vice president of the Vietnamese American Community group, said the organization will try to train its members who are business people to clearly give their names and their stores' addresses to 911 operators.

    Huynh said that about 1,000 people of Vietnamese background own small groceries around the New Orleans area and that they are often the target of robbers, simply because they deal with cash.

    There will be one less soon, Le said. After his wife's funeral service today , he will close their store and leave for Wheaton, Ill., a small city near Chicago where his mother-in-law lives.

    None of the children -- in college at Xavier, Louisiana State University and Baylor University in Waco, Texas -- want to end up in New Orleans, because of its heavy crime, said Le, a former South Vietnamese army major.

    He and his wife both considered their customers "family" and would give $2 to neighborhood children who brought in report cards with all A's, and $1 for B's.

    Notes of appreciation from grateful customers were found posted around the entrance to the grocery Thursday. One, signed by Frank Spears, said, "You will be sadly missed, but God will take care of you. May God bless your family."

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  4. gfreshsushi

    gfreshsushi Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 21, 2003 Messages: 2,244 Likes Received: 1
    lesson of the day for tomorrow: don't go to new orleans.

    wait a minute, i live in oakland. what the fuck am i afraid of?
     
  5. Overtime

    Overtime Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 22, 2003 Messages: 13,986 Likes Received: 311
    <span style='color:black'>this coupled with "dont resist 3 heroin dealers" is probably all the advice we need. that and "dont starve your quadrapalegic brother then try to claim the money" </span>
     
  6. duh-rye-won

    duh-rye-won Member

    Joined: Aug 8, 2001 Messages: 580 Likes Received: 2
    pretty obvious someone put a hit out on this guy. stupid fucking cops.
     
  7. Overtime

    Overtime Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 22, 2003 Messages: 13,986 Likes Received: 311
    Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    you serious? 3 guys in that close of a vacinity to his place of residence, or his girls that is. Now, i know they got away, but the risk is way to large for that, it probably was some heroin dealers...
     
  8. duh-rye-won

    duh-rye-won Member

    Joined: Aug 8, 2001 Messages: 580 Likes Received: 2
    Re: Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    yeah, it was heroin dealers who got paid to kill someone. at least that's how it looks to me.
     
  9. Overtime

    Overtime Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 22, 2003 Messages: 13,986 Likes Received: 311
    Re: Re: Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    i mean, it just dosent make sense, i know that heroin pushers are idiots and will do whatever, but its way to ellogical for them to do it right there in the place they did for it to be a hit...
     
  10. duh-rye-won

    duh-rye-won Member

    Joined: Aug 8, 2001 Messages: 580 Likes Received: 2
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    ???

    it makes perfect sense. if you want to kill someone you stake out the place you know they are going to be. information that the dealers would've been given by the people who wanted the guy dead.

    they didn't take his wallet, because they already got paid a shitload.

    one shot, right to the chest. sounds like a good clean hit to me.

    the guy was fighting against housing laws. he pissed off some people who were making money off of the slums.

    don't you watch the sopranos???:lol:
     
  11. Overtime

    Overtime Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 22, 2003 Messages: 13,986 Likes Received: 311
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    nah, i dont watch the sopranos.

    I mean, i guess it makes sense, the risk is just way to high for me to comprehend, i mean, you know he will be at work, you could tail him, just right there seems to risky. Now, i dont, nor have ever been in this crazy of a situation, but i would never do that in that risky of a sitation...
     
  12. duh-rye-won

    duh-rye-won Member

    Joined: Aug 8, 2001 Messages: 580 Likes Received: 2
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    tail him to where? where would be a better time or place? man, it's as if you've never comitted pre-meditated murder before or somethin!
     
  13. Overtime

    Overtime Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 22, 2003 Messages: 13,986 Likes Received: 311
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    haha, iquit=baller like whoa....i give up, they were hired
     
  14. duh-rye-won

    duh-rye-won Member

    Joined: Aug 8, 2001 Messages: 580 Likes Received: 2
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    :king: ;)
     
  15. Overtime

    Overtime Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 22, 2003 Messages: 13,986 Likes Received: 311
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MURDER OF THE DAY

    haha, :bowdown:
     
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