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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by BUNBUNBIGGY, Dec 20, 2005.



    Joined: Aug 11, 2002 Messages: 292 Likes Received: 10
    N.Y. Post:

    December 20, 2005 -- The city's transit union called for a strike early today after failing to reach a deal with the MTA following days of bitter labor talks, ensuring that 7 million bus and subway riders will be thrown into chaos this morning.
    The authorization from the Transport Workers Union Local 100 came after it rejected the latest offer from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, defying a state law prohibiting strikes by public employees.

    Union President Roger Toussaint announced just after 3 a.m. that workers would walk off the job immediately.

    Daily News:

    EW YORK (AP) -- Subways and buses ground to a halt Tuesday morning as transit workers walked off the job at the height of the holiday shopping and tourist season, forcing millions of riders to find new ways to get around.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who had said the strike would cost the city as much as $400 million a day, joined the throngs of people crossing the Brooklyn Bridge in the freezing cold as he walked from a Brooklyn emergency headquarters to City Hall. Other New Yorkers car-pooled or rode bicycles.

    "I think they all should get fired," said Eddie Goncalves, a doorman trying to get home after his overnight shift. He said he expected to spend an extra $30 per day in cab and train fares.

    It is New York's first citywide transit walkout since an 11-day strike in 1980, and officials said they would seek quick court action, which could include stiff fines. Pay raises and pension and health benefits for new hires are main sticking points.

    Authorities began locking turnstiles and shuttering subway entrances shortly after the Transport Workers Union ordered the strike. The buses and subways, the nation's largest transit system, serve 7 million riders a day.

    At one subway booth, a handwritten sign read, "Strike in Effect. Station Closed. Happy Holidays!!!!" At Penn Station, an announcement over the loudspeaker told people to "please exit the subway system."

    Huge lines formed at ticket booths for the commuter railroads that stayed in operation, and Manhattan-bound traffic backed up at many bridges and tunnels as police turned away cars with fewer than four people. All the while, transit workers took to the picket lines with signs that read "We Move NY. Respect Us!"

    Commuters, scrounging for ways to get to work, lined up for cabs and gathered in clusters on designated spots throughout the city for company vans and buses to shuttle them to their offices.

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    A look at some numbers behind the New York subway system:

    6,200: The number of subway cars.
    352 million: The number of miles traveled by the fleet in 2004.
    1.4 billion: Annual ridership.
    7 million: The number of riders each day on average.
    31: The number of miles from one end of the A train to the other.
    468: The number of subway stations.
    660: The miles of track in passenger service.
    $2: The amount for a one-way fare.
    Five cents: The amount for a single fare in 1904 when the subway went into service.
    Source: Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

    "There were hundreds of people waiting for cabs, pulling doors left and right," said taxi driver Angel Aponte, who left his meter off and charged $10 per person.

    Bloomberg has said the strike would be particularly harsh taking place during the holidays, predicting it would freeze traffic into "gridlock that will tie the record for all gridlocks."

    He began putting into effect a sweeping emergency plan, including the requirement that cars coming into Manhattan below 96th Street have at least four occupants.

    The union called the strike after a late round of negotiations broke down Monday night. Union President Roger Toussaint said the union board voted overwhelmingly to call the strike.

    "This is a fight over dignity and respect on the job, a concept that is very alien to the MTA," Toussaint said. "Transit workers are tired of being underappreciated and disrespected."

    The news drew an angry response from the mayor, governor and head of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

    "This is not only an affront to the concept of public service, it is a cowardly attempt by Roger Toussaint and the TWU to bring the city to its knees to create leverage for their own bargaining position," said Bloomberg at a news conference.

    MTA Chairman Peter Kalikow called the strike "a slap in the face" to all New Yorkers and said lawyers will immediately head to court. It is illegal for mass transit workers to strike in New York, and the 33,000 bus and subway employees could face fines of two days' pay for each day on strike.

    "They have broken the trust of the people of New York," said Gov. George Pataki. "They have not only endangered our city and state's economy, but they are also recklessly endangering the health and safety of each and every New Yorker."

    MTA spokesman Tom Kelly said the agency "put a fair offer" on the table before talks broke down. "Unfortunately, that offer has been rejected."

    The union said the latest MTA offer included annual raises of 3 percent, 4 percent and 3.5 percent; the previous proposal included 3 percent raises each year. MTA workers earn around $47,000 to $55,000 annually.

    But Toussaint said the union wanted a better offer from the MTA, especially when the agency has a $1 billion surplus this year.

    "With a $1 billion surplus, this contract between the MTA and the Transport Workers Union should have been a no-brainer," Toussaint said. "Sadly, that has not been the case."

    A key issue is the MTA's proposal to raise the age at which new employees become eligible for full pension from 55 to 62, which the union says is unfair.

    The down-to-the-wire negotiations came as workers at two private bus lines in Queens walked off the job, a move meant to step up pressure on the MTA.

    The contract expired Friday at midnight, but the two sides agreed to keep talking through the weekend and the union set a new deadline for Tuesday.

    Commuter frustration was evident both before the strike and after it was called.

    Darryl Padilla, a 20-year-old club promoter, was trying to get on the train at Penn Station when he found out that the strike had begun. He didn't have enough cash to take a cab to his home on the northern tip of Manhattan.

    "I didn't think they were going to shut down. I can't take a cab," he said.

    "Enough is enough," said Craig DeRosa, who relies on the subway to get to work. "Their benefits are as rich as you see anywhere in this country and they are still complaining. I don't get it."
  2. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 18, 2001 Messages: 5,263 Likes Received: 40
    I got to work MUCH faster than normal.
    My boss picked up seven of us.
    10 minutes from one of the "outer boroughs" to downtown Manhattan.

  3. Kr430n5_666

    Kr430n5_666 Banned

    Joined: Oct 6, 2004 Messages: 19,229 Likes Received: 30
    Excessive sleep, excessive dream.
  4. methadone program

    methadone program Member

    Joined: Jun 15, 2005 Messages: 413 Likes Received: 0
    whats fucked is the cab situation...if you can even find one...they got the zones...A, B, C, D ETC....so a ride that could usually cost $10 could cost you $20...glad i got the fuck outta there.
  5. trackstand

    trackstand Senior Member

    Joined: Jun 21, 2004 Messages: 2,262 Likes Received: 3
    Fucking nuts... 8 million people walking to work and back in the snow. Four people minimum in taxi's. Sounds like chaos.
  6. MAR

    MAR Veteran Member

    Joined: Jun 2, 2005 Messages: 7,264 Likes Received: 256
    does that mean no ones guarding the yards??


  8. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 18, 2001 Messages: 5,263 Likes Received: 40

    Umm...theres no snow actually.
    No real chaos to speak of either.

    Yes, I'm sure the yards are being guarded.


    i caught the last train out of grand central last night at 1:08am knowing i had a flight out of hartford tomorrow. glad i did eject when i did. i can say this, the police presence was crazy. i rea some shit saying basically alot of the police overtime is to guard mta property from sabotage by both sides.
  10. Gat Bush

    Gat Bush Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 23, 2003 Messages: 9,817 Likes Received: 129
    bump for sticking it to the man.
  11. nomadawhat

    nomadawhat Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 24, 2001 Messages: 5,001 Likes Received: 2

    • 7 million-plus -- Daily commuters affected
    • 30,000-plus -- Transit workers on strike
    • $440 million-$660 million -- Daily economic loss to city
    • $1 million -- City damages sought against Transport Workers Union on first day
    • 490 -- Subway stations affected
    • 244 -- Bus routes affected
    • 10,693 -- Buses and subway cars affected
    • 55.7% -- New York City residents who don't own a car
    • 23 F -- Temperature in New York at 9 a.m. ET


    not really sticking it to the man. more like sticking to the working man. im curious what the average salary for a motorman or booth attendant is. im sure there are thousands of people who barely make $10. an hour, dont have ANY idea what health insurance is, cant fathom the idea of retirement who couldnt make it to work today. how do they feel? i can think of at least 15 at my work, and they're shit out of luck. glad the MTA employees are standing up for themselves though. get that 8% raise over the next 3 years.
  13. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 18, 2001 Messages: 5,263 Likes Received: 40
    Most MTA employees are RATHER well paid for the jobs that they do.
    They have some of the best insurance.
    They can retire at 55. Full pension. Even retiring at 62 like the MTA wanted isnt that bad considering I'll likely be working till I'm 70, and I have no idea when I'll get a pension, if ever.

    I feel bad for the people with NO access to a car that are stuck working menial jobs and living way the fuck outside of Manhattan. Theyre the ones who are fucked.
  14. H. Lecter

    H. Lecter Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 15, 2004 Messages: 1,844 Likes Received: 4
    Suburban lines are still running...
    and they make stops within city limits..

    Queens Residents have many options
    Brooklyn residents have a couple..
    Bronx residents have one..
    and people from Staten Island are fucked unless they live near the ferry and work downtown..

    Oh and P.S.
    Jersey transit did'nt strike, so they're just fine..

    MEROJUANA Senior Member

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