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morrison, death and the ultimate break-through

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by dosoner, Sep 5, 2001.

  1. dosoner

    dosoner Elite Member

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    A lot of idiots will tell you that Morrison was obsessed with death. This is a lie that Oliver Stone helped perpetuate. His obsession was to break through the ultimate of all spiritual boundaries...the fear of death. He was a man who was obsessed with life, and, like Christ, I feel he knew that he had to destroy the ultimate fear to find the hidden life in the universe and himself.
     
  2. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

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    aw fuck, I thought this was about the cafeteria...

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  3. Xeroshoes

    Xeroshoes Senior Member

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    it is an instinct built deep into our minds, and i dont think it is humanly possible yet to fully remove this fear from ones mind

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  4. kid toucher

    kid toucher Member

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    hallucinogens help alot...................what?
     
  5. dosoner

    dosoner Elite Member

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    yes, that is a possible route to get there, and many people use it. but there are many other options than that
     
  6. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

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    the only death I fear is violent and avoidable, does that make me a weaker person?

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  7. LUKY

    LUKY Member

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    why are people afraid of death? i know what happens when i die, im dead. anything after if there is anything, is gonna be a bajillion times different.
     
  8. dosoner

    dosoner Elite Member

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    simply saying, that when you die, you "are dead" explains nothing at all, of course you are dead when you die, but is there anything after this? is there really a god? are you going to be judged by what you did in your lifetime? will you travel to a diffrent demension and live among creatures, that are both so alien and abstract, compared to what your use to,that is will confuse and scare the hell out of you?

    death is too uncertain to simply give it a lable of "im dead" and how would you know anyways?

    edited for spelling, i think i got them all?

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  9. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

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    you lack patience, this question is most assuredly answered for us all in time...

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  10. dosoner

    dosoner Elite Member

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    i dont have a lack of patience at all, im in no hurry to die. curious about what happens, yes, i definetly am that, but i am in no way in a hurry to die, i enjoy life and all its challenges. this is not a topic about being in a hurry to die, its a disscusion about whats out there, beliefs, and possibilitys of what we will find when we die. its not about deppression and suicide
     
  11. footsoldier

    footsoldier Senior Member

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    usually i would try to say somethign about how i feel about all of this...but insted im just gonna say death is death.
     
  12. boogie hands

    boogie hands 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 15, 2001 Messages: 16,059 Likes Received: 13
    up until a year ago i had honestly seen death as a simple process, heart stops, your buried, thats it....latley though ive started to wonder if thats it at all, ive started to ponder the concept of the "soul"...the possibility that there is something after this life, the posibility of reincarnation, and endless cycle of life...a lot of times though after thinking about these things i start to question why im thinking about them, the possibility that it is not so much beleif as hopefulness, no one wants to have a one shot deal at life...i honestly dont think a good majority of people could live a healthy life with the mindset that once they die thats it and i think that is part of the reason these things, an afterlife, god, reincarnation, etc. have come about...then again our understanding of our surroundings is so miniscule that anything is possible...


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  13. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

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    you DO lack patience, I never suggested, even HINTED, that you were in a hurry to die... perhaps if you'd put a smidgeon more time into your interpretation of my words... anyway, go live a long healthy and happy life and rest secure in the knowledge that the instant your life is over, your question will be answered... simple

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  14. and now you choke

    and now you choke Elite Member

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    i'm pretty comfortable with the thought of death. it's nothing to fear.

    but i wanna be wanna be jim morrison.
     
  15. I remeber reading alot about morrison and his peyote trip, Pretty interesting stuff although Ive never been a huge fan of the doors, i own two albums and are familier with the work that they did as well as some of jims personal life.
    He was a great lyracist and his death was a loss to fans and others alike, as he extensivly helped the proggresion of psychadelic music and the conncetion between the artist and freedom of expression.
    I can also understand your dismay with the explotation of morrisons "beliefs" and death, as the same thing happend with Leary and in neither case was it justafiable. (sorry for the grammatical errors)

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