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More informative debate from our friends at Faux News

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Poop Man Bob, Oct 17, 2003.

  1. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Nov 16, 2000 Messages: 10,259 Likes Received: 18
    http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb/icons/icon2.gif'> From [url=http://www.thismodernworld.com]Tom Tomorrow[/url] via [url='http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100013,00.html']Fox "News"[/url].

    [i]I'm a rabid she-beast. Fear my anorexic thighs and wicked, forked tongue.[/i]

    SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: While inspectors in Iraq continue searching for weapons of mass destruction (search), some Americans are outraged at the president that so far no weapons of mass destruction have been found. Our next guest thinks that's grounds for impeachment.
    We're joined by the publisher of Harper's magazine, John MacArthur, who's with us. And the author of the best selling book, Treason, Ann Coulter is with us.

    It's not even really intellectually worth discussing. After reading your article, my first reaction is to bubble and fizz and get mad. My second reaction is this is beyond silly, you know, but you really believe this?

    JOHN MACARTHUR, HARPER'S MAGAZINE: Why do you invite me to go on the show if you think it's beyond discussion?

    HANNITY: Because Alan wanted you on. That's why.

    MACARTHUR: OK. But clearly...

    HANNITY: It wasn't my first choice.

    MACARTHUR: Clearly, if the president of the United States has lied on a grand scale to Congress...

    HANNITY: Name me one lie. Name me one lie.

    MACARTHUR: Let me finish.

    HANNITY: If you're going to call him a liar, back it up.

    MACARTHUR: I will, yes. I'll talk about what he said to Bush…Blair at the press conference on September 7 at Camp David. He said…he cited a non-existent report from the International Atomic Energy Agency (search), saying that Saddam was six months away from developing a nuclear weapon and infamously said, "What more evidence do we need?" And from there...

    HANNITY: We don't have time for a speech.

    MACARTHUR: ... we moved on to aluminum tubes. We moved on to connections with Al Qaeda.

    HANNITY: Did you call...

    MACARTHUR: We talked about an atomic bomb threat that did not exist. Sean, this didn't exist. This didn't exist.

    HANNITY: This isn't a speech time.

    MACARTHUR: You need me to give you the facts.

    HANNITY: I've got to ask you, did you call for the impeachment of Bill Clinton?

    MACARTHUR: I wasn't interested in the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

    HANNITY: You weren't interested? So you're only interested in the impeachment of Republicans?

    MACARTHUR: No, no, no, no. I mean, it's…Listen, I can't stand Bill Clinton.

    HANNITY: Did Bill Clinton lie to the American people?


    HANNITY: Why do you have one standard for him and another standard for a Republican?

    MACARTHUR: I have the same standard for both of them.

    HANNITY: No, you don't. Because you didn't write an article asking for his impeachment.

    MACARTHUR: Actually, what I'm trying to tell you is that if you, as Senator Graham (search) put it a few months ago very intelligently, if you apply the same standard to Bush that was applied to Clinton, then it's impeachable. He should be impeached. Absolutely.

    HANNITY: Ann...

    MACARTHUR: Because as Alexander Hamilton (search) said in The Federalist Papers, this has to do with the immediate consequences and harm done to society. What could be greater harm than the deaths of American soldiers...

    HANNITY: Excuse me. The immediate consequences…Sir, you have yet to...

    MACARTHUR: ... in Iraq, who have been sent to Iraq on a fraudulent pretext, utterly...

    HANNITY: My patience is really running thin.

    MACARTHUR: ... and they're dying.

    HANNITY: Could you please be quiet, because there are other people on the panel?

    MACARTHUR: OK. Sure.

    HANNITY: The idea here, he cannot give a specific example.

    MACARTHUR: I did give a specific example.

    HANNITY: He's full of crap.

    MACARTHUR: I did give an example.

    HANNITY: And this is just, hatred of George W. Bush now has become a sport for these guys.

    Ann Coulter?

    ANN COULTER, TREASON AUTHOR: First of all, I agree with you. I hate to treat this seriously by responding, but the particular lie that he cited as his leading, case in chief of the president lying, yes, Bush cited something like the Atomic Energy Commission (search). He misspoke.

    HANNITY: Right.

    COULTER: It was the International Institute for Strategic Studies or something. He misspoke about the name of the institute.

    MACARTHUR: No, he didn't. He didn't.

    COULTER: It's my turn now. You stop that.



    COULTER: Point two, as you know, I'm something of an authority on the grounds for impeachment. And this is precisely the sort of thing that impeachment is not for. I mean, it's not for policy disagreements. It's certainly not for something that is in the president's prerogative, such as waging war, for example.

    To take a decision that I think is appalling, but is not grounds for impeachment. Bill Clinton sending a small Cuban boy back to a Bolshevik monster in Cuba. That is not grounds for impeachment, because that is part of the president's authority.


    COULTER: You don't impeach for disagreements over policy. It is for misbehavior; that is what misdemeanor means. It's for bad decorum.

    COLMES: Ann, we didn't let Rick make a speech. You can't make a speech, either.

    COULTER: Well, actually, you did.

    COLMES: I know it's hard, but if you look to your left, I know that's difficult.

    Look, I don't think he should be impeached. I disagree with Rick about that.

    COULTER: That's very big of you.

    COLMES: Thank you. I think I'd rather put our time and effort toward 2004, and just like I don't think Bill Clinton should have been impeached, I don't.

    But I understand Rick's point. There are many Americans who increasingly seem to feel that we were not leveled with, for whatever reason, whether it was Bush who did it or people in his administration who gave him false information.

    He did say the IAEA reported that Iraq was six months away from a nuclear capability, which turned out not to be true. It's a scare tactic.

    COULTER: He got the name of the institute wrong.

    COLMES: Saying "I misspoke," and they said they misspoke about a number of things. Misspoke about uranium. They misspoke about tubes, misspoke about how many things.

    MACARTHUR: Right.

    COLMES: Misspoke lets him off the hook?

    COULTER: No. Liberals don't want to fight terrorism. You want there to be lots of 9/11's.

    Jesus. I get so frustrated when I read complete and utter shit like this.
  2. Vanity

    Vanity Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 11, 2000 Messages: 7,673 Likes Received: 6
    why do you waste your time?

    it isn't information.

    it's infotainment (copyright pending).
  3. Dick Quickwood

    Dick Quickwood 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Aug 25, 2002 Messages: 14,783 Likes Received: 14
    haha, that woman has something wrong with her
  4. Æ°

    Æ° Senior Member

    Joined: May 12, 2002 Messages: 1,974 Likes Received: 6
    The treadmill of humanity.
  5. crave

    crave Veteran Member

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  6. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Nov 16, 2000 Messages: 10,259 Likes Received: 18
    Oh, don't worry, I normally don't. It was, however, linked off of Tom Tomorrow's site, and I wanted to read it to reassure myself that the right is still idiotic by following people such as Hannity and Coulter.

    I just saw Kill Bill. It was pretty good.
  7. causinpanic

    causinpanic Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 13, 2003 Messages: 1,141 Likes Received: 0
    someone has too much free time on their hands.
  8. bigdork

    bigdork Guest

    coulter is a fucking cunt!! You have to turn off fox news bro, it will drive you insane, i get into watching it sometimes just to laugh at its blatant bias and nauseating jingoism, but it can get addicting, TURN IT OFF!!!
  9. Rodney Trotter

    Rodney Trotter Senior Member

    Joined: Aug 23, 2001 Messages: 1,683 Likes Received: 1
    Ha, who ever this Sean Hannity is, they come across as a fucking idiot.

    Are these the people who present the news in your country? That's fucked.
  10. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 8,264 Likes Received: 5
    it looks like that chick is about to eat a carrot and hop away
  11. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Nov 16, 2000 Messages: 10,259 Likes Received: 18
    Apparently no one reads what I type. I don't watch Fox News, I don't "bother" with people like them .. I got the link off another website and was amazed by their idiocy, thus compelling me to share the transcript with you.

    Ding! [​IMG]
  12. Kr430n5_666

    Kr430n5_666 Banned

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  13. kilgoretrout

    kilgoretrout New Jack

    Joined: Sep 27, 2003 Messages: 92 Likes Received: 0
    ann coulter must have had so many botched facelifts. how could you possibly believe anything that woman has to say, or what fox news has to say. :hatred:
  14. rental

    rental Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 1, 2001 Messages: 7,641 Likes Received: 1

    i agree on all three counts.
  15. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    i love how coulter warps the issue by comparing the whole
    iraq death toll to clinton's dink shenanigans or some other