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Moby Takes on Eminem

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Mainter, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. Mainter

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    Moby Takes on Eminem

    Discussion started by Mainter - Dec 12, 2005

    December 12, 2005

    Moby might be a lightweight vegan in body, but he's a verbal heavyweight: In an online journal post last week, Moby took Eminem to task for his misogynistic lyrics. "I respect Eminem as [a] talented and relevant musician," Moby says in a Dec. 6 post. "Now we find out that a British man who is obsessed with Eminem killed a woman with a metal baseball bat and stuffed her body into a suitcase. Am I being 'too uptight' for not seeing the humor in this?"

    Later on, Moby lambastes the media for celebrating musicians who glamorize brutality towards women. Moby closes his post on misogyny a call to arms for people in the music business: "Any employee of a record company or journalist or radio programmer or MTV employee who has promoted and celebrated misogynistic or homophobic music should be ashamed. You have blood on your hands, and you should be deeply, deeply troubled at the culture that you've helped to create."
     
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  2. Milton

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    Milton - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    Interesting,

    On the one hand I hesitate to blame the musician versus the murderer. But there was a case I was reading today where somebody accused Ozzy Osbourne of causing their kid to commit suicide by "subliminal messages" in that Suicide song.

    On the other hand, I can see a lot of fucked up people listening and saying "yo, if he can talk about it, I can talk about it. And if I can talk about it, I can do it." And then stuffing his ex wife in a laptop case and carrying her into mexico on a red-eye.
     
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  3. Thought Wrong

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    Thought Wrong - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    Seriously fuck MTV and its gangsternation promotion. People get it in their mind that theyre thug as fuck and we laugh and shit. But they take themselves serious and go and try and slang some shit or rob people and houses.

    You cant deny MTV has encouraged thugness just as much as theyve encouraged lil bitches in A&F and emo children. The only difference is the thug mindset will take it to the point where they feel they have to prove they are by doing criminal shit.


    But mobys a dick and looks like one too. His music for the most part sucks or at least the singles, never bothered to check out anything else of his.

    How the fuck did he get famous?
     
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  4. GLIK$

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    GLIK$ - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    Fuck bitches, make money.
     
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    imported_dowmagik - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    and the beatles are to blame for the manson murders...riiiiight...
     
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    -Rage- - Replied Dec 12, 2005


    Hahaha.
     
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    CACashRefund - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    And Moby, you can get stomped by Obie,
    You 36 year old bald headed fag blow me
    You don't know me, you're too old
    Let go, it's over, nobody listens to techno
     
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    This is the gayest shit I've ever read.
     
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    Herbivore - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    Ooooohhh... he really showed him.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    SPORTO - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    GO
     
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    THANKYOU - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    speaking of eminem, anyone buy his last album? how was it?
     
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    villain - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    this actually brings up a point of contention i wanted to address. there are conspiracy theories all day on the glamorization of violence and it's impact on society but we can certainly see some relation.

    art imitates life/life imitates art

    either way, something is going on. television is a powerful tool. it is essentially the public square of our day. those people on tv are our community leaders, whether we choose to recognize or realize it or not. the impact is profound. especially on youth. it is difficult for a parent to outshine the preeminence of an eminem per se. how many kids want to be like their parents? they want to be like their peers. their parents are old, dated, uncool, ... whatever.

    the problem with television is that even though it represents our culture and dictates it's norms, it is not at all like the public square. television is distant, impersonal, and it is not interactive. it does not represent us at all. it is a fantasy. it is impossible. yet people do not believe anything unless they see it on television.

    i heard a radio program speaking on this issue the other day. about how media creates a climate that expects violence in the black community. it expects people to act hard in order to gain respect. this is not our media. our media would show that yes, life is hard, but we are here to mitigate that. not yes, life is hard, and we are going to make it harder for you because i only care about myself. this is not community building. and what of the dumbing down of our culture? it is not black culture to be uneducated. that is the yoke of slavery back to bind us once again. education is not a 'white' thing. it is universal. all cultures since the dawn of mankind have sought to understand the world around us and within us. in fact black people began it all.

    ultimately i blame capitalism, however, since it's goals are base and self serving. as long as money dominates world affairs we will see all sorts of .... ,i hesitate to say evil but perhaps it is so,..... problems. we can create a utopian society free of struggle, free of need, free of all this unecessary hardship... then we will be free to deal with the real wonders of life. material and capital are but a fuel, a means to an ends, a vehicle.... if we allow it to become the end all be all, we will never get to where we are going.
     
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    Issac Brock - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    eminem is wack as hell but he isn't the real reason that guy killed his girlfriend.
     
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    !@#$% - Replied Dec 12, 2005

    people need to take responsibility for their garbage.



    The Case: McCollum et. al. v. CBS, Inc., et. al.

    On the evening of October 26, 1984, nineteen year old John McCollum shot and killed himself while listening to the recorded music of rocker Ozzy Osbourne. That night, John listened repeatedly to several of Osbourne’s albums, including Blizzard of Ozz, Diary of a Madman, and Speak of the Devil. With his headphones on and the music playing, John placed a .22-caliber handgun to his head and took his life.
     
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