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media discrepencies and opinion tinged reporting.

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by boxcarwilly, Sep 13, 2001.

  1. boxcarwilly

    boxcarwilly Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 8, 2000 Messages: 1,288 Likes Received: 0
    i have been addicted to cnn for the past 3 days. i have been on their website watching video footage (they do have several angles that arent being shown on television) while having the tv on. i am going to see if anyone has noticed the massive attempted coverups and mistakes. i am a skeptic through and through so, i was just wondering if anyone else picked up on these.

    1028am 9/11... (paraphrased newscaster)
    there has been a downed plane in rural pennsylvania. (with no video footage or satellite imagery remember civilians have access to immediate sat imagery that allows you to see 3 meters within your target. never mind what the government has and or the media *one in the same?*)

    1030 am 9/11... (paraphrased newscaster)
    "there is a second plane over the pentagon, being escorted out of airspace by 6 fighter jets"

    my ordeal with this is the fact that we never heard about the plane again... and that noone comments on the fact that the report undeniably was given out before we shot the plane down. the news last nite was an attempt to save face saying there is conclusive evidence saying that the passengers of this particular downed plane reacted violently against the hijackers... thus bringing down the plane, when in fact the locale of the plane being shot down was preplanned and prereleased by the media...
    the point of the passengers revolting is an attempt to make heroes out of those that went down to take the pressure off the engaging f16's. i could be way off with this one but this entire ordeal made me search for more media discrepencies.

    reports of pentagon bombing early on stated that it was a private jet that only took out about 60 ft of pentagon, with no deaths. this was obviously a pressrelease because every channel said the same thing (including rube eyewitnesses) until several cnn reporters found people on the street that said it was most definately a commercial airliner. then had a pilot who watched from his apartment who after the pentagon realized they fucked up and too many people said released a statement using an airline expert that it was a mcdonnell douglas plane with evidence etc. while the aforementioned pilot swore up and down that it was a boeing 757 the same plane he flies he could tell it flew right by his apartment up 395. this is insane. press releases vs eyewitnesses not adding up.
    add to that the release that said that noone died in the pentagon that all employees were accounted for, because this wing was empty because of construction. well this wing was not under construction... there was business as usual that day which lead to later releases of number dead in the pentagon of 100-800.
    from zero to one hundred sparks curiousity especially with pentagon officials stating that everyone had been accounted for.

    these were just a few of the incidences i have seen, and i am sure there are more. in fact i havent listed what the ones my girlfriend and i have picked out, including the briefs on boston and providence. understandably emergency media is a touchy subject but this is something that cannot be covered up like every major east coast airliner crash. this is something that will leak this is national security national lifestyle being changed. what worries me is the 1984esqueness of the media propaganda, they are all mouthpieces and the only thing that has saved much of what actually happened is civilian accounts, which tend to be questionable in situations like this. it is a media mindfuck.

    no to the other subject of overtly rascist newscasters.... fox 56 the eve of the tragedy, there was a newscaster debating with the former secretary of state and he said word for word....
    "there is no one else in the world that would do this but Arabs"
    my girlfriend and i started flipping out, all day we had said how easy this was, learn how to fly get schedules and a couple people crazy enough to die for their cause. which as a terrorist with a purpose is an obvious demise. when your objective comes first your life is the cause. it isnt tough. it could be anyone. and all the lies and media breakdowns and slips are bullshit. bullshit.

    in fact okc was immediatly blamed on binladen in fact he claimed it according to the media, binladen would not have stopped. he is a smart terrorist and would have not stopped at bringing a nation in which he hates to its knees he would have done this, stabbed more and bled us after showing us how simple it is. how vulnerable we are. he is smarter then a one stage attack. hence why i have been on the defensive about everything about this. because if he was the mastermind behind this he would have immediatly attacked the west coast when the media was all up in arms and on the streets. then he would have had a field day, the west coast wakes up when us on the east coast are eating lunch.


    two more quick notices:
    f16's flying cover over boston for 8-10 hours. now if federal airspace was cleared and the faa grounded everything in the air within the hour... what is the concern the only people with transatlantics are our friends and a scrambled fighter force cannot defend against icbm's. how many more planes were on their way?

    early mentions of grounded planes in cleveland and a theft of a plane in boston. with no further mention after.

    it just all seems too fucking orwellian. we noticed the dissemination of new information stopped completely at 1115. stopped, no more interviews a complete ban on interviews and reviews with experts in the terrorism department.


    former pres bill clinton said in 8 words something completely more profound then bush's entire statements...
    stop pointing fingers, give blood pick up bricks.
     
  2. fr8oholic

    fr8oholic Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 23, 2000 Messages: 9,256 Likes Received: 2
    cut to the chase man. what are you stating in 25 words or less. i commend the statements above, the logic and attention to detail but some of us have hangovers and A.D.D.
     
  3. Fox Mulder

    Fox Mulder 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Nov 23, 2000 Messages: 12,434 Likes Received: 85
    is there any event that happens that someone will not find a consipiracy in? come on. the media also reported at one time that the mall(not a shopping mall) was on fire from a bomb. which turned out not to be true. and why would the pentagon try and lie about no one being killed? that would be easy to find out if anyone was or not.

    i do leave the possibility open that the last plane was shot down.
     
  4. ohnoone

    ohnoone Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 26, 2001 Messages: 3,060 Likes Received: 164
    ive been watching BBC news. they are talking about things that all new station here are neglecting to mention. not huge cover up shit, but less fibre of america, we shall overcome type stuff, more news.
     
  5. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

    Joined: Jan 6, 2001 Messages: 8,127 Likes Received: 0
    i'm curious when our news media is going to start focusing somewhat
    on WHY this happened.....i mean firstly you ask WHO, then you beg the question WHY.......
    its not pretty...
    noam chomsky anyone? http://www.zmag.org/chomnote.htm
     
  6. boxcarwilly

    boxcarwilly Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 8, 2000 Messages: 1,288 Likes Received: 0
    as for why i think i have gone into it on my own... yrs of oppression... hmm i dunno there is already a post on why so as not to go crazy about that on this i was just saving this for media propaganda etc.

    i also posted something about the unreleased information that we bombed the shit out of iraq not even 2 days prior.

    and reviewing things today if you are interested look into florida accounts and =ask yourself why german plice are involved.

    also ask your self what the fuck the us financial trust are doing donating *5 billion* dollars to europe to stabilize the global ecomnoy (read as paying for protection.)
     
  7. Mr.Raven

    Mr.Raven Guest

    I cant really confirm this, but someone here was in contact with an employee at a vendor we use that happens to have offices at the empire state building and they claim this employee said they were evacuated due to a reported bomb. They are not allowed back regardless of whether its true or not and were specifically asked not to mention any of these facts. They were told it would only lead to further panic and that the responsable thing to do was to stay silent.

    Like I said, Its not first hand, but close. I wonder what else is going on. Theres been rumors of a hostage situation in Staten Island, but this isnt verified or is anything I heard directly from somebody that witnessed anything.
     
  8. dumpybottom

    dumpybottom Member

    Joined: Feb 27, 2001 Messages: 951 Likes Received: 0
    for about 5 minutes last night they were saying on msnbc that bombs had been found by police dogs in that building, then a few minutes later, it just disappeared,and there was no retraction or mention of it again. weird.

     
  9. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 233
    they've evacuated the american express building, they considering evacuating rockafeller center and the building next to the time inc. building is reportedly on fire for some reason... which is odd, considering that all those buildings are mid town (except amex) and are no where near the site...
     
  10. the deal last nite evacuating the empire state building was a bomb-sniffing dog picked up on something.

    i called my girlfriends parents who live only a few blocks from the ESB, and she said they hadnt been told to evacuate, as they had last nite, and that looking down 5th, there was still traffic both ways and pedestrians. she mentioned that they may evacuate first, then publicly say something. not to confirm or deny what raven said, just adding what i know.

    and seeking, i think they are evacuating becuase of bomb related issues. threats/bomb sniffing dogs, etc. not because structural integrity of those buildings have been comprimised. and they are also evacuating the area around the _________ (what a time for a brain fart) building.

    ------------------
    Now back to your regularly scheduled re-programming...
     
  11. Retired Hasbeen

    Retired Hasbeen Member

    Joined: May 9, 2001 Messages: 567 Likes Received: 0
    Ok, so i am not the only one who quetions this whole thing.
    I think it is vital to ask a big question.
    WHO BENEFITS?
    What does someone gain from doing this...beyond just the fact of doing it.Like who will make money off this,who will gain something from it?Who will we get to attack now? What will we gain from those attacks?
    Oil is the blood of the world and needs to be kept in the back of our minds...

    How is it they have suspected associates in custody so fast, by using intercepts, yet could not do this before this happened?.
    What laws will be passed limiting our freedoms? How stict will gun laws become?

    Who here is aware of the illuminati?
    Who here knows of the NWO?
    Who is going to benefit from this attack?
    ..AFGHANISTAN-So now they can be destroyed to shit.
    ..Osama- I think he would claim he actually did it, and not state it was Americans who did it.

    ...And on and on...

    who benefits?...Look at this and it will become appearent.

    the LONE NUT.
     
  12. *see-phore*

    *see-phore* Senior Member

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    i think you and would get along
     
  13. boxcarwilly

    boxcarwilly Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 8, 2000 Messages: 1,288 Likes Received: 0

    you arent alone. i have said from the beginning of this craziness that we have to look closer to home to find out why.

    i picked this up today too.
    "regardless of human feelings on what happened yesterday (tuesday), Amerika is reaping thorns sown by its rulers in the world"

    paraphrase: the US is exporting evil, corruption and crime, not only through its armies deployed in various parts of the world, but also through its movies.

    love saddam hussein.

    the first stateme i completely agree and the second i agree mostly. the movies comment is a bit wacko but... criminal masterminds usual arent sane.


    so how bout the fact that logan airport and boston airspace has been closed for 3 days and there are still planes flying over head and lowaltitude, i wish it wasnt cloudyt so i could see.
     
  14. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

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    i don't think the movies thing is wacko at all....
    arab nations have been the enemy in countless american movies......
    and they are always portrayed very negatively......
    one of the comments reported in the last couple of days
    by a saudi was something to the effect of 'rambo isn't
    around to save you(america) now'......
     
  15. boxcarwilly

    boxcarwilly Senior Member

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    i agree with that completely twinkie i just had a feeling it might have been muslim sex standard related i didnt even think about the movies that portray "arabs" the medias word as scum. and its so true i just thought of like 5 in the two seconds i wrote this in my bad.
     
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