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Media Coverage and how we view our world...

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by dr. frink one, Sep 12, 2001.

  1. dr. frink one

    dr. frink one Elite Member

    Joined: Jun 7, 2001 Messages: 3,638 Likes Received: 1
    So I know people have been talking about the WTC collapse....and seeking if you don't want any more of these you can close it...but please read on.
    For the past two days, I have been closely following the news coverage of these events. I can't tell weither I absolutley hate watching, am rivited to the televison, or just don't have the will to turn it off..
    On a couple of stations, they broadvasted Palestinians cheering in the streets. A number of kids on here responded by saying "MAN, FUCK THEM PALESTINIANS, I SAY WE KILL THEM ALL" bullshit. I think it was really irresposible of the media to show those shots. It is footage like that that fuels the fires that have already become almost totally accepted by people in the US. I'm sure some people in the US cheered just the same (as the world trade center is both loved and hated by many) and the feelings of those kids are not the feelings of all the people in Palestine. I am not bias either way, I don't support or go against any religious groups, but I feel that the media is just deepening the hatred and stereotypes Americans have.
    Understand.. I am white...atheist...and I have no ties to the Middle East...but every time anything goes wrong people immediatly point and yell "OH its those goddamn ARABS!" or something like that. I think this tragic event really should shed some light on the bias and utterly bewildering foreign policy the US has. While murders have decreased in the past few years, media coverage of murders has increased 700%...(I suggest everyone reads "Derailing Democracy" available through AK press...) People now say, through polls, that they are increasingly afraid of violent crimes, while statistically their fears are unwarranted.
    I think people shold really open their eyes and try to take a look at what is going on. My heart goes out to those who have died or are injured, and I too am amazingly angry with all of this...
    Today the front page of one of the newspapers in SF, where I live, said "BASTARDS" and then had a full page of the WTC going down...
    any thoughts?
    sorry to bother you all...
  2. KidGoneBad

    KidGoneBad Junior Member

    Joined: Jul 19, 2001 Messages: 248 Likes Received: 0
    For real. It's propoganda against people they don't even know did it.
  3. dukeofyork

    dukeofyork Guest

    youre right, they dont KNOW osama bin laden did it. but he already has attacked the us in the past, so hes gonna get nailed for one or the others.
  4. maskoner

    maskoner Member

    Joined: Nov 4, 2000 Messages: 900 Likes Received: 0
    national public radio quote:

    "american life everywhere has ceased! disney land, disney world and the mall of america have shut down..."

    thats how the media views out world.

    my life is more than amusement and shopping.
  5. Smart

    Smart Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Apr 14, 2000 Messages: 17,017 Likes Received: 178
    in spite of the 'biased' nature of the american press, the fact remains that no other country in the world grants the amount of freedom to their journalists than the US. The stories basically WILL come out. I agree that it is necessary to view foreign new shows and commentary, if only to gain the subtle difference in nuance and tone that can help signal the true feelings of 'most of the rest of the world'. However, does anyone here actually think that there were widespread reports of the insurrection in Kabul in the Afghan news? Do you think there were reports at all?

    The saddest thing of all it that TV and Radio journalism are both held to the same standard as sit-coms and soap operas. That standard: ratings, ad dollars and revenue. This is the achillies heel of US journalism.

    2 Can Sam
  6. Remy Martin

    Remy Martin Guest

    my veiw on this whole situation???


  7. what I don't get is that our media still refuses to address this one simple question: Why would a people be happy that this happened, what have WE done to them?
  8. Xeroshoes

    Xeroshoes Senior Member

    Joined: Apr 16, 2001 Messages: 1,413 Likes Received: 0
    I can understand why people would be happy if this happened.....would you not be happy if someone bombed the world trade center of a nation you've been brought up to believe is evil, and a source of terror in the world? people would be happy there for the same reason most of the people on this board were mad at them for being happy....
  9. dr. frink one

    dr. frink one Elite Member

    Joined: Jun 7, 2001 Messages: 3,638 Likes Received: 1
    if you have seen broadcasts from Palestine, you will see more pictures of Palestinians burning both american and israeli flags...
    Would you love the US if they supported the nation that you were at war with, and (in the view of some) stole the land that you see as rightfully yours, or ravaged the homes you used to live in..?
    its all about perspective
  10. dr. frink one

    dr. frink one Elite Member

    Joined: Jun 7, 2001 Messages: 3,638 Likes Received: 1
    anyone else care to say anything or is this dying...
  11. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,364 Likes Received: 299
    The reason the news stations showed this clip, no matter how disturbing it was. Was because it IS news. This is relevant because it shows the amount of hatred displayed against the United States. It is also important that we do not jump the gun. We must keep level heads and realize that just as many of you bitch about American propaganda, these people too have been forced fed Anti U.S. propaganda themselves.

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  12. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,278 Likes Received: 235
    palestine is mad at the US for (among other things) taking their sacred land away from them and giving it to the jews. they also are pretty unhappy that we continue to support the israeli's when their people are being murdered daily. if i hold your arms so someone else can punch you, your gonna be mad at me as well. so to them seing us as 'vulnerable' is 'payback' for what they've endured.

    and fink, i couldnt agree with you more. i think the media showing those images over and over was incredibly damaging and irresponsible. it created a scapegoat and an enemy out of a people whos only real fault was feeling vindicated by a terrible event. the palestinians are not responsible for these attacks and should not made as whipping boys. outside of that situation though, ive actually been fairly ok with the medias coverage of this. its of course been a circus, but understandably so. i would like to watch something else on tv though... i want carsen back...
  13. Comp

    Comp Senior Member

    Joined: Mar 22, 2001 Messages: 2,134 Likes Received: 0
    hate crimes againts Muslims and Arabs have just dramatically increased today. it makes me sad to see people treat people who had nothing to do with it this way. i mean damn it. this whole thing is a mess. they changed the wolrd forever. i always hope that i'll wake up and it would all go away. but it never does.

  14. bobobi11

    bobobi11 Elite Member

    Joined: Dec 15, 2000 Messages: 2,807 Likes Received: 1
    I just watched one of the FOX anchors interviewing Brian Levin a former NYPD officer who now teaches at a So. Cal. University and is considered one of the top academic experts on terrorism in the US. Levin was saying that yes this is terrible, but that we need to do our homework and make sure that we have the responsible parties before we take action. He even said that on a speculative level he also believes that Bin Ladin is responsible, however he still is advocating being sure. The anchor kept pressuring him and asking him over and over whether we should just strike now while emotions were high. The anchor would not accept this expert's opinion and advice and continued to argue with him and finally cutting the interview short when it became obvious that Levin was not going to support his cause to just go "bomb the hell out of Afganistan".

    Just incredible, how the media is trying to shape this situation.
  15. brown twinkie

    brown twinkie Veteran Member

    Joined: Jan 6, 2001 Messages: 8,127 Likes Received: 0
    there are a ton of questions.....mainly and firstly
    WHO did this?
    after that its logical to ask WHY?
    there's a whole lot of info to sift and trawl......
    take it or leave it.............. www.michaelmoore.com
    go to the bottom of the page and read up..

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