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Marvel Comics

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Vanity, Jun 26, 2005.

  1. Vanity

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    Marvel Comics

    Discussion started by Vanity - Jun 26, 2005

    OK.. so I read all my Marvel comics.. I think like 600-700 from all sorts of years, but none really more recent than about '94 or '95.

    Here's a few reviews.

    Amethyst: Princess of Gemworld - Kinda childish and girly. The art is average, as is the writing. However, the plots are actually pretty dope, fairly original and not predicatable at all (Keith Giffen (sp?) is the plotter).

    Captain America: straight cornball

    Cloak and Dagger: Kinda girly at times.. but it's interesting how it has 2 protagonists on the same side where 1 represents darkness and is all shady and ish.

    Dazzler: horrible.

    Dr. Strange: Pretty interesting actually. He actually goes on epic adventures, which is kind of refreshing compared to the arch nemisis stories.

    Deathlok: booty

    Deaths Head II: pretty funny.. in an english kinda way.

    Ghost Rider: Nothing really stuck out as good or bad. On one hand, Ghost rider's motivation gets kinda old "you did wrong.. you must die".. but on the other hand, it's cool how his solution is always death.

    Incredible Hulk: pretty damn dope. Just the Hulk's sheer power. The older Hulk is a bit more enjoyable as his reaction to everything is just "HULK SMASH!" not caring what it is... then bruce banner learns to control him somewhat and it gets kinda gay.... the grey hulk was kind of cool in that it took the philosophy that if banner can control the hulk, the hulk can control banner (and himself a bit more)... It's also dope how the hulk hates banner more than anyone else.

    Iron Man: Tony Starks himself is kinda interesting.. but every tough situation iron man gets stuck in us solved by some new gadget he installed in his suit that we didnt know about. and there's too much inner dialogue about the limitations of his suit, ie "well, i could just blast him w/ my ion blaster, but then i'd never have the power reserves to get back to a safe distance."

    Moon Knight: confusing.. hence, boring.. stephen platt is a dope artist though

    Now the x books

    x-men: they established a real deep and complex world to make stories in, but the roster of artists and writers is too unstable... stick to the chris clairmont stuff... and when hey started introducing all these alternative timelines and crap, shit got wack.

    x-factor: i thin they're supposed to be like a more official government form of the xmen = boring

    x-force: supposed to be a renegade tougher form of the xmen... might be better, but i haven't read enough, and the fact that it's lead by cable gives me it's doubts

    new mutants: supposed to be a trainee xmen force. mediocre, but there's this 1 character named warlock that is real interesting just in the way he's drawn and tha this power is he can turn into any machine.

    generation x: art was cool in the beginning but i dont see anything special.

    then there was all the other stuff.. generation next, alpha, unlimited, etc... i never really got into all that but i have a few questions:

    whatever came of wolverine losing his adamantium skeleton? he ever get it back?

    after legion killed charles xavier, and magneto lead the xmen in the new universe, did anything ever somehow get back to normal?

    did storm ever get her powers back after she was blasted w/ forge's gat?

    back to the review....


    savage sword of conan: awesome.. big issues, black and white, gory, he rapes girls, steals, whatever.. it's on some grimey shit.

    ROM: Spaceknight - they did a pretty good job of creating a world here.... it's a pretty nice storyline until he kills all the dire wraiths (which was a bold move by the publisher), everyhting else was kinda jsut filler

    wolverine: better than the team books.. but he looks dumb w/ an eyepatch

    Punisher: dope, not great, but dope

    silver surfer: for whatever reason, i only have 1 issue w/ thanos and the infinity gauntlet... i hear it's a supposed to be a pretty good story.... but all the shit i have is kinda booty.

    namor the submariner: nothing special. his arrogance is kinda funny.

    spider man: pretty cool character but there's like 12 titles and it's too hard to keep up... and the onyl cool enemies he has are venom and carnage.

    venom: nothing special

    That's pretty much it.. i missed a bunch, i know.. the avengers sucks.. thor goes on adventures, but nothing that great.. never got into the fantastic four

    Though my DC comics collection is smaller.. i'd say i like them more... the flaws of the characters are more in their personality than their powers.
    you can read my old DC Comics Review

    And I should be back in a couple months to catch you guys up w/ image, valient, malibu and all them other smaller publishers.
     
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    duh-rye-won - Replied Jun 26, 2005

    i've never read a comic book. really.
     
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    nerd
     
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    I haven't read Cloak and Dagger since the early nineties, but I do remember loving it.

    Anything with Dr. Strange is cool.

    Deathlok, Dazzler, and Death'sHead II all sucked. But I like Dazzler as a character in the X books.

    The Incredible Hulk, from what I vaguely remember, was really good. Was Peter David the writer in the Hulk issues you read?

    The X-books in the early nineties were my favourite. Clairmont can be a near genius when he wants to. He helped create one of the best comics franchises ever (meaning that, yeah, he didn't invent them, but he sure helped bring them back).

    One of my favourite crossovers was "X-Tinction Agenda". It is well worth the purchase of the trade paperback, if it's available. Warlock of the New Mutants dies in it.

    I lost interest in X-Men when that whole Age of Apocolypse thing happened in the mid-nineties. I mean, c'mon - like two years of alternate reality? WTF?

    Savage Sword of Conan was awesome, from what I remember. I have been strongly recommended the new Conan books by someone I trust to have impeccable taste in comic books.

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    Lately, when it comes to Marvel, I've been reading a lot of Daredevil. I think it is Bendis' best Marvel book (though I can't say I've given all his other stuff a totally fair chance). It is stereotypical Bendis (reliant on dialogue, little action), but it works with Maleev's art.

    I plan on getting more into Hulk now that Jae Lee is artist, along with Peter David being the writer. PAD wrote the X-Factor books that you probably own, Vanity. You can't fuck with X-Factor #87. That was a great book.

    Spider-Man, written by J Michael Stracszynski (sp) has been pretty good. I didn't like the controversial "Sins Past" story arc, but everything else has been excellent, or near to. The latest arc I read of AMS was "Skin Deep", drawn by Deodato, and I loved it.

    I am most looking forward to the future DD story arcs (which feature DD when he was the Kingpin) and the upcoming Daredevil mini-series by Joe Quesada called "Father".

    I also look strongly forward to Peter David and MarkWeiringo (sp) on the upcoming "Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man" ongoing series.

    I plan on trying Astonishing X-Men once again, as well as re-starting up on Uncanny.

    All this House of M crap is confusing, and I'm waiting for it to pan out so I can just catch some sort of synopsis on the internet so I'm up to speed on everything. I really don't like the idea of the New Avengers too much. Well, especially since I don't like the idea of my man Peter Parker and wife Mary Jane living in the new Avengers Tower with the likes of Wolverine and such.
     
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    Weapon X - Replied Jun 27, 2005

    Oh yeah, Vanity - Wolverine did manage to reattain his adamantium claws a few years after the "Fatal Attractions" story. That was a very well written story. I give mad props to writer Fabian Nicieza and penciller Andy Kubert for those great moments in Marvel comics.
    It's too bad that Joss Whedon decided to bring back Colossus. Oh well - that is the way she goes. I actually don't care that much. He was a good character.
     
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    MOOGLE? - Replied Jun 27, 2005

    whatever came of wolverine losing his adamantium skeleton? he ever get it back?

    yes but he began devolving..and blah blah..they killed cyber and took hi adamantium skin..good ole weapon x program....on a side note i believe this is the point where they started toying with the idea of secondary mutations..

    after legion killed charles xavier, and magneto lead the xmen in the new universe, did anything ever somehow get back to normal?

    ... the kept blink...and the dark beast and sugarman..the ywo of wich are in the currently running excaliber.. and blink is in her own book..legion is dead..somfin about mkron crystal...oh and morph.

    did storm ever get her powers back after she was blasted w/ forge's gat?

    no but she gained the ability to change her hairstyle and outfit every other issue


    And I should be back in a couple months to catch you guys up w/ image, valient, malibu and all them other smaller publishers.



    you do a review of malibu... i will cut you..
     
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    fermentor666 - Replied Jun 27, 2005

    This thread is too overwhelming to me, especially since I didn't really read too many comics in the 90s.
     
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    Tough Love - Replied Jun 27, 2005

    ive been reading heavy metal recently
    they have some nice variety in terms of comics and stories
    i like that
     
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    ^^ yea yea you forgot to mention the nudity...

    Wolverine lost his adamentium when Magneto drained it off of his skeleton through his pores.

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    I remember when Apacalpse killed Cyber for the adamentium, and tried to give it to Wolverine to no avail...

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    I don't know how Wolverine got his adamentium back, but I do think Marvel switched up the entire universe so didn't x-men start all over?

    It's been years since I picked up a comic....
     
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    NO MATCH FOR RAWHIDE KID
     
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    oh man, this brings back memories..

    I too started reading comics way back in the late 80's and stopped sometime around '96-'97ish..

    yeah, remember when all the x-men died and they brought them back with that weird "seige perilous" storyline?
     
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    Read Metal Hurlent by Humanoids Publishing. Heavy Metal was originally a European rag that they made an American version of (Heavy Metal), then the European one stopped being published, now it's getting published again and it's 500 times better than Heavy Metal. I can't even read that crap anymore.
     
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    My favourite Heavy Metal issue was the one where they do Gulliver's Travels, but with a really sexy babe. It was seriously amazing. If anyone has that issue still, I'll buy it off you.
     
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    Where do I get this?
     
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    i got that one
     
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