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Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by UP NORTH, Oct 21, 2004.

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    UP NORTH New Jack

    Joined: Oct 21, 2004 Messages: 10 Likes Received: 0



    UP NORTH..

  2. TRAMP

    TRAMP Member

    Joined: Oct 8, 2001 Messages: 594 Likes Received: 0
    Graf isn't doing anything for me where I need to protect it from exploitation.
    money fills my stomach. the more money I have the better i eat and the warmer i sleep.
    If I end up making extra travel money because someone paid me to rock some shit I'm going to be doing anyway. bring it. I want to stay longer and go further.
  3. imported_b0b

    imported_b0b Guest

    The best way to make money off graf is start a buff company.
  4. why write?

    why write? Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 19, 2003 Messages: 5,859 Likes Received: 1
    ^ hah good point, but i dont think making some t-shirts and canvases on the side is a big deal...i mean who gives a fuck money is money...if someone offered me any amount of money for any of my work it would be sold in a minute
  5. Give us some examples!
    No-one ever got rich of graff on this side of the fence, only buffers, experts and politicians cash in big time.
  6. rodger_that

    rodger_that New Jack

    Joined: Sep 26, 2004 Messages: 41 Likes Received: 0
    I dont see anything wrong with making money off graff. I mean ive read interviews where writers said they racked all thier stuff but if there was sumthing they couldnt rack they sold stuff that they had racked to other writers and then used that money to buy it. Doin sumthin like that is a pretty good idea if u ask me
  7. ®āłpĦ Łąuяëŋ

    ®āłpĦ Łąuяëŋ New Jack

    Joined: Oct 8, 2004 Messages: 13 Likes Received: 0
    i really dont consider selling shirts or whatnot selling out, your doing something you like/love......and to be able to do that and make money why not?........you wouldn't?
    "hey dude, can you make a design and put it on a shirt i think that looks awesome"..."i'll even pay you for it".......your not going to say no
  8. JFKFC

    JFKFC Junior Member

    Joined: Dec 25, 2003 Messages: 108 Likes Received: 0
    it depends on who the person is and what their intentions are. for example, you've got reas doing all those graffiti influenced graphics for comedy central...i can't hate on that. reas has nothing to prove in the graf game so if he can take what he's learned as a writer and use that to make a living than more power to him. however, a lot of people who are "selling out" and using graf to make money were never really writers to begin with...and that pisses me off. i think the situation with reas and comedy central is the exception not the rule. reas put in work and he's the one making the bank. but usually what happens is the market is saturated with a bunch of fucking bullshit that rips off the aesthetic of graffiti, but nobody who's really dedicated to graffiti is seeing the profits. so if you were never an active writer, and being a legal eagle your whole career doesn't qualify you as a writer in my opinion, than what business do you have making money off graf? look at all the bullshit "graffiti" t-shirts you see out there. go down to the mall and look at journey's or one of those pseudo hiphop stores---out of all the recycled b-boy characters and graffiti logo shirts you see, how many writers you think made any money? maybe some toy who thinks graffiti looks really cool on trucker hats made some money or maybe some artschool douche who majored in graphic design who's trying to market themself to the "hip urban crowd." i feel that you should earn the right to make money off of graf. i think all the people who "never was" that are whoring off graffiti are suckers, and the people who support them are even bigger suckers.
  9. junior

    junior New Jack

    Joined: Sep 6, 2004 Messages: 29 Likes Received: 0
    The only way to make money off graffiti is to start a buff company and go around painting places and the next day you get paid like 400$$ to removie it, see writers can make money off graff
  10. test

    test Junior Member

    Joined: Aug 4, 2004 Messages: 130 Likes Received: 0
    yeah i totally agree, but that's jsut the product of our capitalist economy. the big investor with his factory verse the skilled rtisan with his small shop. one has a real deal product and the other has some bunk cheap shit that gets mad profits. one cares about what he does, one cares about the money it makes. the writers are busy writing, breaking the law, and doing what the fuck evr else they got going on. the people able to make enough of a product to rake in some real cash aren't writers, per se, they're capitalst, marketers, salesmen.. With an ever growing "hip hop" urban scene all the kids wanna feel like hard thugs these days, people come up with ways to exploit THAT, and graffiti is an unfortunate part of that. Hell, they come up with ways to exploit any trend in people. Trends in people's actions and interests an easily be turned into a market for some kind of bullshit. I wouldn't worry too much, over some time, maybe some years, the hip hop urban fag trend will pass but graffiti will still be around.
  11. TeezerPHM

    TeezerPHM Member

    Joined: Aug 31, 2003 Messages: 697 Likes Received: 2
    im not even gonna say anything or read this thread really but some crews try to make money of their graffiti or off graffiti skillz i dont care just as long as u have fun making that $$$$$$$$$$$$
  12. alphabet soup

    alphabet soup New Jack

    Joined: Oct 9, 2004 Messages: 40 Likes Received: 0
    so thats whos doing the comedy central graphics....well more power to him!!!id rather see that than most shit,and hes doin shit that he likes...fuck it people can do what they want,its not gonna change what this life is really all about.all the dumb fukn mallrats can rock their stupid pseudo graffiti clothes,ill be paintin trains and fucking their girlfriends.
  13. Gunm

    Gunm Banned

    Joined: Aug 31, 2003 Messages: 12,427 Likes Received: 2
    well, street cred and "mad props" doesn't pay the bills or keep a roof over your head. Why turn down a chance to turn some cash?
  14. 00

    00 Junior Member

    Joined: Jun 7, 2004 Messages: 120 Likes Received: 0
    i agree with lens........to a point see the fact is hardly anyone is going to make a LIVING off graffiti.Its really gonna be something like "hey man can i buy that piece and use it on a shirt/hat/etc.And the writer gets $200 the company gets thousands and theyll probly never see each other again.i dont see a time when a company is gonna HIRE a writer over some graphic design douche who can bite your letters,or just make really bad ones,to sell their clothes.

    P.S i define selling out as changing your values/beliefs/style? to make$

    hope i made sense .i cant tell.
  15. 2na

    2na New Jack

    Joined: Mar 1, 2004 Messages: 13 Likes Received: 0
    What about selling graffiti on canvas in galleries?

    Doesn't that take away from graff?
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