oneeightyone Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Here's a thought that occured to me recently. Local vs. National Fame. FOr example. Take one person that goes around the country painting and getting his/her name up as much as possible, painting with other writers, doing heavy prods and pretty much getting a stir around the name from the east to west coast. But on the local level he only has menial fame. How many heads are out right now in everyone's local area that in a few years will go unnoticed as another scratch in the wall? Obviously the national fame is the top one, but how important is local fame to do so. just a thought i had. discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 If you really care about Fame that much you should quit now before you dissapoint yourself, you aint in this for the right reasons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 Well, i think it's important to have a strong local following as your foundation before you try and make it in the big time alongside the ranks of Twist and Futura 2000. No skyscraper can prick the sky the way it does without a strong foundation nor does a mountain soar into the heavens without a mighty bit of bedrock underneath it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackfatsoe Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 ahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeightyone Posted November 5, 2005 Author Share Posted November 5, 2005 this isnt about my personal fame , no, just a conversation i had with a friend today. i liked lens reply . gangsta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJackDaniels Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 were you stoned when that came to mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I prefer when dudes don't seem to live anywhere full time... they just crush spots all around the country and do their thing. I like the fact that I have no idea where Amaze or Dr. Sex come from, but no matter where I travel, I'm going to see their shit. Then again, I guess people like that probably are well known locally before they start making national moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeezurSalad Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Originally posted by ASER1NE@Nov 5 2005, 05:19 PM If you really care about Fame that much you should quit now before you dissapoint yourself, you aint in this for the right reasons... Quoted post So what is the reason that YOU write the same word over and over again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EViLPRiCK Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 i told myself i wouldnt take 12oz seriously anymore, but local fame is more important to me because im not just trying to show off to other writers I want to inspire some 10 yr old kid walking down the streets. nationwide fame is tight, but only things standing out on that level are kids with nothing to lose, and kids who have some artsy vision. take this with a grain of salt but i feel like the only people recognizing those people are on 12oz right now or are some pissed off rail people. if your thinking about the long run, asking a question like that just leads to ASER1NE's statement, youre in it for the wrong reasons. It means you arent having fun with it. my crew is international, and ive painted and got up more in other cities than I have where I live. its not about the fame, its about the rush, the fever when you're out painting with your boy, and you tell yourself ' no dont hit more its not straight' but no one around screams at you otherwise. im not saying im not down for working out a nice wall piece, or painting nationwide, but the fame comes after the fun.. or else its just work not carrying a tool with you to write on stuff when ever you get the oppertunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Originally posted by SeezurSalad+Nov 5 2005, 09:10 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SeezurSalad - Nov 5 2005, 09:10 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ASER1NE@Nov 5 2005, 05:19 PM If you really care about Fame that much you should quit now before you dissapoint yourself, you aint in this for the right reasons... Quoted post So what is the reason that YOU write the same word over and over again? Quoted post [/b] So its there for people to see, everywhere they go so they dont have a choice but to look at it..... The difference is i couldnt give a FUCK whether anybody, writer or joe blow nobody likes it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracksmoka Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 fuck national fame... without the internet and magazines there would be no such thing... 99% of nationally known writers have NEVER kinged there cities... and from my experience most of them (and note i say most, there is bound to be few exceptions) are held as a joke by the real heads... (at least here anyway). graff is wack now anyway... maybe 2% of the kids out now are doing things the right way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HATEBREEDER Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Originally posted by LENS@Nov 5 2005, 10:41 PM No skyscraper can prick the sky the way it does without a strong foundation nor does a mountain soar into the heavens without a mighty bit of bedrock underneath it. Quoted post look at mr. wordsmith!!!! hes going crazy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeezurSalad Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Originally posted by ASER1NE+Nov 6 2005, 06:00 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASER1NE - Nov 6 2005, 06:00 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Originally posted by SeezurSalad@Nov 5 2005, 09:10 PM <!--QuoteBegin-ASER1NE@Nov 5 2005, 05:19 PM If you really care about Fame that much you should quit now before you dissapoint yourself, you aint in this for the right reasons... Quoted post So what is the reason that YOU write the same word over and over again? Quoted post So its there for people to see, everywhere they go so they dont have a choice but to look at it..... The difference is i couldnt give a FUCK whether anybody, writer or joe blow nobody likes it or not. Quoted post [/b] We're talking about fame. Not whether people like your shit or not. Every writer writes graffiti for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracksmoka Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 i write for myself and the people i look up to... i could give a fuck about other writers whom i could give a fuck about's opinion... most writers do it to boost there own low self esteeme anyway. You all may not agree but it is a MAJOR underlying factor for the majority of writers... there are 3 viable reasons : (in the this modest writers opinion) 1- to carry on traditions of something that you were raised on and embrace wholeheartedly (this is for the people i look up to) 2- to destroy things and piss people off (this is for me) 3- to release something that needent be pent up inside you... ie: emotions (this is because of everybody else) if your doing it to "express your artistic side" then you are in it for ALL the wrong reasons. go buy a coloring book... if your in it for groupie love then your in it for ALL the wrong reasons... get some game, your pathetic... and if your in it to have kids tell you how great you are then your in it for ALL the wrong reasons... yep, you really impressed those 12 year olds... how do these threads get so off topic...? fuck national fame... and in philly throw ups DO NOT go over tags... NOTHING goes over tags... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 i do it because i want people to think about me while im still alive and remember me when im dead. after my childrens children though.. i seriously doubt im going to be anything to anyone except for another name on a family tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 graffiti is what you make it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Fame as in painting with new ppl in new places is all gravy... Fame as in a gang of lame ass jockers who want you to sign their dicks is fuckin gay .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Painting with other people for fame came up twice in this thread already. Jeepers! I write because putting up boards in my backyard to paint on is too complicated. :clown2: * ^ shit, this isn't a "why do you write?" thread...my bad. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuck muni Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 who gives a fuck about fame?? whenever im drunk and have a pen ill rock something, wherever the fuck i am... but usually im so drunk i just go to sleep or whiskey dick my bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Originally posted by HATEBREEDER+Nov 7 2005, 07:40 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (HATEBREEDER - Nov 7 2005, 07:40 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-LENS@Nov 5 2005, 10:41 PM No skyscraper can prick the sky the way it does without a strong foundation nor does a mountain soar into the heavens without a mighty bit of bedrock underneath it. Quoted post look at mr. wordsmith!!!! hes going crazy!!! Quoted post [/b] I post on a local level so i can show off my deep intellectual ability and vast storehouse of $5 words i picked up while in college Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spectr Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 yo i travel allot, i see so few heads that are seriously up on a national level, i know i try to paint in every city i go to at least once but i know most people will never see anything i put up its fun thats why i paint i dont know about the rest of you but if it isnt fun why the fuck you risking your ass on a daily basis. I definitely have respect for the heads i see up all over the country but respect and fame are different things. I personally am more content with the walls i paint getting the buff quicker then lasting a long time the way i look at it if it gets buffed quick its a good spot lots of people seeing it lots of people complaining so they get rid of it quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehandler Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 LOCAL LOVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptheknife Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 do your own thing and if people notice then all the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HATEBREEDER Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I post on a local level so i can show off my deep intellectual ability and vast storehouse of $5 words i picked up while in college Quoted post hahhahahahahaha!!! im the opposite. i hide my spectacular venacular from everybody, unless im chatting up a broad who likes smart guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STYLEISKING Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 try get out of the hood,for a change! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 if you paint enough, in a local or national setting, you will get fame but in my opinion, as harvey said, you are almost known locally by default before you move national, otherwise, how the hell are you getting up so much if you aren't known in at least one city? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Feets Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 My mom wants me to go all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnimeeOne Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Local to prove grit, When you travel , nationaly or internationaly, people tend to help you out with spots, racks, info etc. Travelling is nice but at the end of the day you need to be known and respected in your home town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackstand Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Originally posted by MrJackDaniels@Nov 5 2005, 09:27 PM were you stoned when that came to mind? Quoted post Haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearthesear Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 Originally posted by trackstand+Dec 5 2005, 12:24 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (trackstand - Dec 5 2005, 12:24 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-MrJackDaniels@Nov 5 2005, 09:27 PM were you stoned when that came to mind? Quoted post Haha! Quoted post [/b] first i think you have to prove yourself to your city then to the world then keep your city in lock so niggas know its your domain....but yeah i seen dr sexd everywhere and those evergreen tree things in la here in reno in sac everywhere!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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