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Kansas BOE rewrites definition of science

Discussion in 'News' started by saraday, Nov 9, 2005.

  1. saraday

    saraday Senior Member

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  2. !@#$%

    !@#$% Moderator Crew

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    no, it's probably true. evolution is bullshit.

    judging from how completely STOOPIT some people still are
    i think these morons are devolving, really.
     
  3. imported_dowmagik

    imported_dowmagik Senior Member

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    my fav is when people say evolution is "just a theory" :rolleyes:

    jerry falwell was on some morning show today trying to argue with bill nye about evolution, i almost shit my pants. they had some lame comedian on there as well, i guess to soften the issue, which i thought was pretty fucking lame. god forbid joe television watcher has to watch something serious in the morning and use his fucking brain.
     
  4. KING BLING

    KING BLING Guest

    I agree...
    Though this is the image the psycho right wants you to see - a little blonde haired kid tears from his big puppy dog blue eyes running down his face with jesus looking on in disgust while some liberal lesbian principle with fangs and a tail hits him and rips the bible from his hand - its simply not the case. You can pray in school, hell many schools allow for you to walk right outside the grounds to go to seminary or other religious programs. Its the school itself pushing, or allowing broad proselytizing of religion, that is not allowd. Kids can wear crosses, pray before eating and carry bibles with them - but when you force kids to go to school, its not fair to than force religion upon them and more so it defies the intent of our governmental frame work...
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    http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=67176
     
  5. RumPuncher

    RumPuncher Elite Member

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    If someone came up with a good creation theory based on Aliens,
    I think it should be taught in schools too, just to round out all the
    possible angles of being a crackpot.


    the whole fault in the argument...

    The creationists demand that evolution be PROVED before they will accept it.
    Imagine if the evolutionists demanded that same burden of proof on the creationists.


    *addition:

    we're a lot closer to finding the 'missing link' of evolution
    than we are to proving the existance of a creator.
    The very nature of faith is that you believe without proof.
    With proof, there's no need to have faith. It's tricky that way.
     
  6. !@#$%

    !@#$% Moderator Crew

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    you'd think, with the genomes sequenced an all
    that fucking over 95% similarity would be proof enough

    ....
    Evaluation of the reported findings in all these categories indicates that the CMP-sialic hydroxylase mutation is the only one that has so far been shown to result in a global biochemical and structural difference between humans and great apes. Several of the other known genetic dissimilarities deserve more exploration at the functional level. Among the areas of focus for the future should be genes affecting development, mental maturation, reproductive biology, and other aspects of life history.


    The approaches taken should include both going from the genome up to the adaptive potential of the organisms and going from novel adaptive regimes down to the relevant repercussions in the genome. Also, as much as we desire a simple genetic explanation for the human phenomenon, it is much more probable that our evolution occurred in multiple genetic steps, many of which must have left detectable footprints in our genomes. Ultimately, we need to know the exact number of genetic steps, the order in which they occurred, and the temporal, spatial, environmental, and cultural contexts that determined their impact on human evolution.
     
  7. RumPuncher

    RumPuncher Elite Member

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  8. !@#$%

    !@#$% Moderator Crew

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    The often-quoted statement that we share over 98% of our genes with apes (chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans) actually should be put another way. That is, there is more than 95% to 98% similarity between related genes in humans and apes in general. (Just as in the mouse, quite a few genes probably are not common to humans and apes, and these may influence uniquely human or ape traits.)


    Similarities between mouse and human genes range from about 70% to 90%, with an average of 85% similarity but a lot of variation from gene to gene (e.g., some mouse and human gene products are almost identical, while others are nearly unrecognizable as close relatives). Some nucleotide changes are “neutral� and do not yield a significantly altered protein. Others, but probably only a relatively small percentage, would introduce changes that could substantially alter what the protein does.

    ..........................

    Chimps, Humans 96 Percent the Same, Gene Study Finds
    Stefan Lovgren
    for National Geographic News
    August 31, 2005

    Scientists have sequenced the genome of the chimpanzee and found that humans are 96 percent similar to the great ape species.

    "Darwin wasn't just provocative in saying that we descend from the apes—he didn't go far enough," said Frans de Waal, a primate scientist at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. "We are apes in every way, from our long arms and tailless bodies to our habits and temperament."

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...himp_genes.html
     
  9. RumPuncher

    RumPuncher Elite Member

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    hey symbols.....


    not untill you give me some proof.
     
  10. KING BLING

    KING BLING Guest

    Yeah, thats why I can never rectify religion in my mind. I could even "beleive" in the miracles that are listed in the bible but the old testament seems basicly like mythology. Further, the religious zealots out there who cling to it are more or less doing so because they thrive on the idea of being soldiers for God and less on the idea of helping your fellow man. Evolution in its design would make more sense for a higher being to initiate - its logical and it reflects a value on life with a higher beings long term understanding that death is part of the process. Can any of you religious folks offer feedback on my stance?
     
  11. !@#$%

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    hey rummy
    i'm busy white water rafting in africa.
    [​IMG]
     
  12. Herbivore

    Herbivore Senior Member

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  13. imported_dowmagik

    imported_dowmagik Senior Member

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    god bless the onion. what people need to realize is that evolution is not saying there is no god, in fact evolution has nothing to do with there being a god or not. unfortunatly, since it contradicts christian doctrine many perceive it this way. ugh. i totally understand that this world is shitty, and people find comfort in believing in something, but...i dunno where im going with this...peace
     
  14. John Birch

    John Birch Member

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    that shit from the onion is the best.

    but bro your right...evolution is theory about "process", the mechanics of how we came to be. People have theorized about evolution for thousands of years. Darwin didn't 'invent" it one day...

    If religious nuts want to argue with scientists, then their beef should be with cosmologists. There the ones trying to figure out who created us...
     
  15. imported_dowmagik

    imported_dowmagik Senior Member

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    you just dont have any faith. have fun making smores in hell ;)
     
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