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Jean Charles De Menezes - The Truth

Discussion in 'News' started by SPORTO, Aug 16, 2005.

  1. SPORTO

    SPORTO Senior Member

    Joined: Jan 6, 2005 Messages: 1,086 Likes Received: 10
    ITV News has obtained secret documents and photographs that detail why police shot Jean Charles De Menezes dead on the tube.

    The Brazilian electrician was killed on 22 July, the day after the series of failed bombings on the tube and bus network.

    The crucial mistake that ultimately led to his death was made at 9.30am when Jean Charles left his flat in Scotia Road, South London.

    Surveillance officers wrongly believed he could have been Hussain Osman, one of the prime suspects, or another terrorist suspect.

    By 10am that morning, elite firearms officers were provided with what they describe as "positive identification" and shot De Menezes eight times in the head and upper body.

    The documents and photographs confirm that Jean Charles was not carrying any bags, and was wearing a denim jacket, not a bulky winter coat, as had previously been claimed.

    He was behaving normally, and did not vault the barriers, even stopping to pick up a free newspaper.

    He started running when we saw a tube at the platform. Police had agreed they would shoot a suspect if he ran.

    A document describes CCTV footage, which shows Mr de Menezes entered Stockwell station at a "normal walking pace" and descended slowly on an escalator.

    The document said: "At some point near the bottom he is seen to run across the concourse and enter the carriage before sitting in an available seat.

    "Almost simultaneously armed officers were provided with positive identification."

    A member of the surveillance team is quoted in the report. He said: "I heard shouting which included the word `police' and turned to face the male in the denim jacket.

    "He immediately stood up and advanced towards me and the CO19 officers. I grabbed the male in the denim jacket by wrapping both my arms around his torso, pinning his arms to his side.

    "I then pushed him back on to the seat where he had been previously sitting. I then heard a gun shot very close to my left ear and was dragged away onto the floor of the carriage."

    The report also said a post mortem examination showed Mr de Menezes was shot seven times in the head and once in the shoulder, but three other bullets missed, with the casings left lying in the tube carriage.

    http://edge.channel4.com/news/2005/08/week_3/16_brazil.wmv

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  2. villain

    villain Veteran Member

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    that's a crying shame....
     
  3. Dawood

    Dawood Elite Member

    Joined: May 8, 2002 Messages: 4,677 Likes Received: 146
    the truth always comes out.
     
  4. dumy

    dumy Veteran Member

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    damn..really nothing he could have done in that situation..I mean, they assassinated the guy..

    FUCKED UP
     
  5. Dawood

    Dawood Elite Member

    Joined: May 8, 2002 Messages: 4,677 Likes Received: 146
    I smell a lawsuit.
     
  6. POIESIS

    POIESIS Member

    Joined: Aug 10, 2004 Messages: 879 Likes Received: 0
    damn, 7 slugs to the domepiece.
     
  7. SF1

    SF1 Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 25, 2003 Messages: 4,866 Likes Received: 5
    What the fuck does smart-ass kabar or Kracatau or Cacashrefund have to say now???
     
  8. SF1

    SF1 Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 25, 2003 Messages: 4,866 Likes Received: 5
    I hope these filthy pigs get LYNCHED!!!

    You know they aint even so much as loose their jobs much less get convicted so I hope they get fucking LYNCHED IN THE STREET!!!
     
  9. Dawood

    Dawood Elite Member

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  10. smooth talker

    smooth talker New Jack

    Joined: Feb 23, 2005 Messages: 65 Likes Received: 0

    noone will say shit...they never do they just talk shit till they are proved wrong then they go onto sucking some other cops dick...shook ass lil bitches...
     
  11. Dawood

    Dawood Elite Member

    Joined: May 8, 2002 Messages: 4,677 Likes Received: 146
    Ha,Ha, Seems like the SF1,Kabar etc etc. debates have died down. As a matter of fact, seems like crossfire has died down a bit lately, did I scare everyone out?
     
  12. SF1

    SF1 Elite Member

    Joined: Apr 25, 2003 Messages: 4,866 Likes Received: 5
    Kabar's still here he just has a new screen-name. :haha:
     
  13. Stereotype V.001

    Stereotype V.001 Member

    Joined: Jun 9, 2005 Messages: 416 Likes Received: 0
    No, people aren't scared off by Osama Bin Dawood, the one and only John Walker of 12oz. It just seems that arguing with a group of moronic individuals who seem incapable of spelling their own names correctly, nevermind read a post and respond with anything other than "U R A COP D00D!!!!! oR U aR3 KaBarZ oN a N3w ScREEn NamEEZ!! POLIZ3 STATE IZ EVERYW3RE!!! I HATE AMERIKKA BUT IC4NT LEEVE BCUZ IN THE BACK OF MY MIND I REALIZE IT IS BETTER THAN THE MAJORITY OF OTHER COUNTRIESZZ~!!!"

    Anyways, on to the topic at hand, I stand by everything I posted previously on the subject. The guy wasn't wearing a bulky winter jacket, but he was still wearing clothing that did NOT fit the current climate. He walked out of an apartment under surveillance, fit the appearance (at first glance) of someone of a middle eastern descent, and ran. The police covered the suspect to stop shrapnel from killing others on the bus, and eliminated the threat before he had a chance to detonate himself. It was a tragedy by all means.

    As I also said last time, if he had blown himself up you same ignorant motherfuckers would be writing about how the police planned it, and why didn't they shoot the man when they had the chance, blah blah blah.

    Wait.....was that just....common sense??? OH GOD NO!!!! what I meant to say was.... Y0 H0MieZ dEy sTr8 merK3d Dis n!gGA1!! 4REalzxZZ p)liCC3E [email protected][email protected] yO sF1 r U sTiLL gOinG 2 dA pr0m wiT JeanIene?!!?! dAt Bitchzz iz HO00T!!!! Ne wAyz, mY mOmz n3edz Da computAErz!!! DA TRUTH IS OUT DERE!!! PEACE!!! 1111!!! BIG UPZ NIGGA!!!
     
  14. smooth talker

    smooth talker New Jack

    Joined: Feb 23, 2005 Messages: 65 Likes Received: 0
    stereo type your attempts to make fun of peoples slang or lack of spelling is dumb and pretty much shows that you know every internet short spelling...LOL....anyhow dude didnt run till he was going for the train..guess you dont ride mass transit cause my poor ass is running on the daily...and your arguement of clothing attire is pathetic.....guess all hiphopes should die with thier bubble coats...latere blood..
     
  15. Stereotype V.001

    Stereotype V.001 Member

    Joined: Jun 9, 2005 Messages: 416 Likes Received: 0
    Thanks bud. Actually, my point wasn't about the terrible spelling or grammar, although that is annoying. I was actually referring to all of the arguments are never backed up and weak, and usually consist of the same catchphrases over and over. Your post, for instance, takes everything I posted out of context and you then use it to instill your own meaning that you can more easily criticize.

    -See above about your spelling comment.
    -I didn't argue about why he was running, I simply stated he ran.
    -Thank you for explaining why my attire argument is pathetic. I said that usually people do not wear jackets during hot and humid periods of time, and it is often a major indicator that someone with explosives strapped to their chest. You see, the bulky clothing hides it. Yes, quite pathetic, I concur old chap!

    It's like arguing with a brick wall...
     
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