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Is the underground scene completley dead???

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by l0rdka0s, Nov 29, 2003.

  1. l0rdka0s

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    Is the underground scene completley dead???

    Discussion started by l0rdka0s - Nov 29, 2003

    So i had a conversation with my friend from the band recover. They are on the same label as the mars volta. he tells me that no independent labels exist anymore. So i says to him that victory records is independent, he syas naw they get help from somewhere. I told him fat wreck was he say no. I dunno but it doesnt seem right to me. If the underground is truely dead, hiphop/punk/hardcore/indie then this nation needs to take back its music scene before we are listening to the same things over and over.

    any thoughts?
     
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  2. Gunm

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    It's only as dead as you want it to be. If you're pissed off about how things are, get off your ass and effect change.
     
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  3. Dr. Dazzle

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    Dr. Dazzle - Replied Nov 29, 2003

    Victory Records and Fat Wreck Chords are both pretty big labels. Independent to me is more like Smallman Records, Sonic Unyon, Burning Heart, etc....
     
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    Independent to me is recording all your stuff on your own and producing the product to sell on your own.
     
  5. l0rdka0s

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    l0rdka0s - Replied Nov 29, 2003

    well they may be BIG labels but they are not subsidiaries of conglomerates such as interscope(epitaph), sony, warnerbrothers(aol time warner). what ims aying is that if you pay to see a victory band at a local venue not a clearchannel or syndicated venue, you pay cheap, but if you pay to see an AOL time warner band you pay more so all these greedy fucks in the middle can get thier cut taking more from the fans and depreceating the value of the artistry involved. Its like europe in the 1830' 40's 50's, the industrialization era when single handed labor became assembly line and there was no option to go back to the farm. music is being industrialized. Music INDUSTRY is really becoming industry. INDUSTRY is a bad thing for artists. now i know its been industry since the 70's and the classic rock era but im talkin every last subculture has been taken over by the industry. whats next???
     
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    MrChupacabra - Replied Nov 29, 2003

    All the shows i go to are still cheap as hell.
    Most the bands i see are on small unknown record companies, if any.
     
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    ElectricitySucks - Replied Nov 29, 2003

    the title of this post could mean a million different things.
     
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    http://www.suntimes.co.za/2002/10/20/scamto/8-x20cd2.jpg'>

    Yes, generally the underground scene consists of mostly dead people.
     
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    GLIK$ - Replied Nov 29, 2003

    Because a label gets support doesnt mean that the underground is dead you tart.

    Victory records has been shit for a good long time now.

    Equal Vision records isn't good.

    Times change, bands change.

    The underground is still very alive. Go to some real shows or grow a real fucking scene.
     
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    Dr. Dazzle - Replied Nov 29, 2003

    Exactly. My city sucks for good shows, the only ones I go to are local shows, with local bands, who's revenue comes from selling their own self-produced demos. There is probably one of these shows every week. And my city has a relatively shitty scene. I bet yours has a decent one, you're probably not looking hard enough.....
     
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    make your own music
     
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    :)
     
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    uh, alternative tentacles maybe ?
     
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